Jim Lincoln wrote: Frank, the source that I used, if memory serves did not breakdown the killings by religious beliefs, you can bet that the majority of them has done by a white person. The Pensacola terrorist Act was not by an Americanâ From a new source that I rarely use, but some here no doubt appreciate. https://tinyurl.com/yx6k8hs6 (Naval Air Station shooter wrote anti-American and anti-Israeli tweets before rampage: report)
Jim, the only comparison I made was that none of those killings/murders were done by a born again Christian. I never thought about race, sex or anything else.
But, your train of thought does not surprise me or anyone else. Everything is not based on race and politics. At the judgment Christ is not going to assign anyone to hell because they were white/black or democrat/republican.
It is nice seeing you post again. And I hope that you are doing fine health wise!
My thoughts about this subject are very similar to yours. I do not consider one day to be superior or more spiritual than another. IOW, Christ is my Lord and Savior 24/7.
And I do know that the origin of Christmas is to celebrate the catholicâs perception of the Mass. There are so many things in our protestant faiths that are RC in origin. I refer to those things as roman/Protestantism.
I consider Christmas and all other holidays to be simply a time of family gatherings; like birthdays or any other secular holidays. I assign no spiritual significance to it, but I understand when others do.
Just a Guy wrote: This is what happens when a society has completely abandoned Gods laws... People trying to protect their property are having to put more and more safety devices in to counteract stealing. Most Walmart's now have gates at the doors and workers checking receipts for the big "under the buggy" items... All of this, because of the complete disregard for the commandment to not take what is not yours...
Now I know this is going to sound like a flippant comment, but this is the way I think. I cannot understand why someone would steal from anyone. These cyber criminals target the uninformed. I get lots of calls and even some email that are trying to scam me out of money that I earned.
Theft would include lying or telling partial truths to get something material that we donât deserve. I have been guilty of doing this many times during my life, but I now recognize the truth of how wrong it is and was.
Anyway, I agree with your comment. Those that do this have completely abandoned Godâs laws.
think again wrote: 'Well, I'll bet that none of them were done by born again believers. Christians do not commit murder.'-I guess David killing Bathseba's husband doesn't count
A general truth is a statement of fact regarding something that is measurable, demonstrable, and real.
The term 'truth' in this context is defined as the 'general agreement' or consensus of those making the determination of validity, however, it does not require unanimous agreement to be considered a statement of truth.
The above is from the internet.
One of the dangers of debate is when someone states a truth that is generally true, but there might be or there is an exception to it. It would be like me saying that Christians love their Lord, but then someone finds someone who presumptuously sinned against Him. Or it might be me saying men are stronger than women and then someone finds an exception to that. What you appear to do is take an exception and then try and undo the general truth by making the exception the truth.
So, born again believers do not commit murder.
I agree with you that there are exceptions to my rule!!
Unprofitable Servant wrote: A response from Chik-FIl-a https://m.theepochtimes.com/chick-fil-a-defends-donation-to-southern-poverty-law-center_3159734.html
Thanks for the link brother! The below is a cute and paste from the link:
Like the council, Chick-fil-A has promoted traditional Christian values, such as marriage being limited to a man and a woman.
But a 2017 tax filing showed Chick-fil-A donated to the SPLC, which still lists the council as a âhate group.â It also gave money to Covenant House, a homeless shelter that is pro-LGBTQ; YWCA, a pro-abortion group that partners with Planned Parenthood; the Pace Center for Girls, another pro-abortion group; and the New Leaders Council, which says it promotes âa more progressive political and cultural landscape.â
Nancy Pelosi is a typical political catholic. She does what satan wants her to do and thinks she is serving Christ. But, most donât realize that she and most other politicians actually believe what they are saying.
Anyway, in the end the following will happen. Instead of the usage of synagogue think of the body of Christ.
John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Matthew 24:9 Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name.
John Yurich USA wrote: All right Frank. Kindly respond to my post of 11/29/19.
All right I will respond here, but no follow-ups.
There is no one on this forum that believes the catholic church worships the same triune God of scripture that Christians worship - NO ONE. You do, so in my mind you are not in the faith. Since I don't consider you to be in the faith, the only time I will normally respond to you is if I think your parroting comments might confuse someone.
In the RCC, there is no salvation outside of the catholic sacraments, so they do indeed worship a different Christ.
We are all getting used to reading about this extreme persecution that is taking place against Christians throughout the world. True Christianity has always been hated by all those not in Christ.
And just think; our Christian responsibilities are to love our neighbors and preach the gospel to all those not in Christ. Our goal is never to harm anyone.
Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Well, I have never read where the pope has said that he hates God and desires to serve satan. And, I have never heard of the mormon church saying they are worshipping satan. And of course I could go on and on. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it is probably a duck. If I only frequented places that I truly believed were Christian, then I would be homebound.
Hillary and Obama have both said they were born again Christians. The only way we can personally discern the truth of that in our hearts is to âjudgeâ their works which would obviously include their social donations.
Now for clarification. I have never believed that Chick-fil-A was a Christian organization. I have always liked their food and in my area they have an extremely friendly staff. If someone decided to boycott this organization, then I would disagree with that, but would understand and support their decision. IOW, there are certain businesses that I boycott.
Each of us view these things differently. Therefore I want to thank all of the below posters.
As most know I am not into politics. IOW, all politicians are liars and simply pander to their base. Their success, fame and wealth become their gods.
But within that political total depravity; there are levels of depravity. The democrats are so morally corrupt that I believe it is impossible to vote for âanyâ of them and then claim salvation; they are that extreme. All democratic candidates support abortion on demand; homosexual marriage; and feminism to the extreme. Republicans typically will put at least some restrictions on abortion; IOW, they talk about regulating this murder. But, the below applies:
"When the life of the mother is truly threatened by her pregnancy, if both lives cannot simultaneously be saved, then saving the motherâs life must be the primary aim. If through our careful treatment of the motherâs illness the pre-born patient inadvertently dies or is injured, this is tragic and, if unintentional, is not unethical and is consistent with the pro-life ethic. But the intentional killing of an unborn baby by abortion is never necessary."
I often refer to most (not all) pastors as hirelings. Sometimes I catch some flak for saying that, but this article is a good example of what motivates me. IMO, this Greear fellow loves his church position more than he love Christ. To me, that simply makes him a PC hireling. Whatever we esteem the most that is what we are worshipping. This fellow is on record for saying one of his goals was to âcall offâ the culture war. I have never thought of Godâs word being defined as a culture war? That could easily mean that an issue can be looked at one way in our society/culture, but differently in another. We have allowed culture to define scripture instead of scripture defining culture.
Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Now, Lighthouse Trails has learned that at the August 15-17 2014 gathering called âThree Rivers Festival of Hopeâ in Pittsburgh, PA, Franklin Graham (who led and organized the event) brought in Catholic Bishop David Zubik to give the opening prayer on stage with the large audience. During the bishopâs prayer, he acknowledged his belief that Protestants and Catholics are all part of the same church.
While Grahamâs public stand against homosexual marriage and his work to help the poor and needy is commendable, his giving a thumbs up to Roman Catholicism is moving the church closer and closer to complete apostasy.
âThe question we have at Lighthouse Trails is, which Jesus is Franklin Graham sending these people to when he sends them to the Catholic Church for the sacrament? We believe the answer to that is âanotherâ Jesus as the Bible warns will happen (2 Corinthians 11:4).â
All of the above are cut and pastes from the link. I would like those who accept Graham and count him in the faith to ask themselves the same question about the pope. The pope also says he is serving Christ. Is he then in the faith? I don't understand the difference?
As described by Smith and his team, Moralistic Therapeutic Deism consists of beliefs like these: 1. "A god exists who created and ordered the world and watches over human life on earth." 2. "God wants people to be good, nice, and fair to each other, as taught in the Bible and by most world religions." 3. "The central goal of life is to be happy and to feel good about oneself." 4. "God does not need to be particularly involved in one's life except when God is needed to resolve a problem." 5. "Good people go to heaven when they die."
The above is a cut and paste from a previous SA news item.
If someone inserts the name of Christ into the above, then IMO that is Grahamâs theology and Chick-fil-A's cultural position.
Well it is clear what our heavenly Father thought about homosexuality â Sodom and Gomorrah.
And it is clear that all those who practice or promote this abomination and do not repent, will suffer the wrath of God.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Well Jim, I have an alternate plan. Perhaps we should give universal healthcare so that people wouldnât steal, murder or sell and use drugs? If universal healthcare removes a financial burden then perhaps those things would go away. No, here is a real alternate plan that would work pragmatically.
Make abortion illegal and prosecute all who participate for murder.
The few women that would have an illegal abortion would likely end up being injured. I remember what they referred to as back alley abortions or self abortions.
Or, here is Godâs plan. Donât have sex until you are married.
At the moment of conception, the embryo is undeveloped but fully human. Since you support/promote the murder of these innocent lives, you are just as guilty as the abortionist.
Yes, you do repeat the same things over and over. Since no one has agreed with you over the years, why do you do it?