CES wrote: Frank, I agree with your accessement of Mohler, I wouldnāt listen to or recommend him to anyone. Heās a fence sitter and doesnāt understand the gospel of free and sovereign grace, and aligns himself with cults.
Thanks for the agreement. I am also one that doesn't listen to or read things he writes. Each of us draw lines and yours is the same as mine here.
FYI, he got the gay gene theory because he saw sheep that were gay. He then reasoned that if a sheep could be gay, it had to be genetic. But, he also said that even if someone is born with a gay gene, homosexuality was still a sin.
Sorry for using the expression "gay" so often. It is simply the way the internet described his position.
Wayfarer pilgrim wrote: Will A Mohler lead the Sāā Baptistās in taking a bow also? Black live matter was established and run by 2 lesbians and one transgender (?) Mohler thinks we need to engage the culture as a measure of Christian evangelism. I think that ship has sailed. I can only pray for the few respectable people who have turned over to this chaos in whatever metropolitan area you may reside. It would only lead us to be wise with my affiliations. Please teach your grandchildren better than you did your own children.
CES wrote: According to reformationcharlotte.org. dated March 22, 2019, A. Mohler asked that his name be removed from the document.
Thanks for the information. I knew he had signed it, defended signing it and refused to recant even when pressured by his peers. It looks like it took him 10 years to learn that giving credence to cults wasnāt the way to go. I just hope the billions that were in those denominations didnāt use his support to stay in them.
Here is a link regarding the "gay" gene controversy.
"Love always wins," the show's account tweeted Tuesday, along with an image of the arms of beloved Muppets reaching over a rainbow pattern toward a heart shape. It included the hashtag "PrideMonth."
True love is telling these people the truth, not telling them a lie. And of course with a loving attitude towards them!
Psalm 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
John UK wrote: From what you say Frank, it appears that Mr King does not know the King of kings. God the Holy Spirit does not introduce doubt but faith.
Yes brother you are correct. But in this country even the real churches won't preach against him. And, no politician or media personality would have their jobs if they said literally anything negative about him.
I only used the word doubt because the internet article I read did. But, I should have said "didn't believe".
You and I aren't what they call politically correct.
I remember reading something similar to this years ago written by non-Christian leaders in India. They claimed when missionaries went into impoverished areas there were more conversions. It was said the missionaries preyed on the poor and helpless and they were much easier to convert or at least say they converted. That meant they were on a list to get aide and things like that in the future. It appears the same thing is coming up again.
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Jim Lincoln wrote: QC, I'm not on ignore in fact Martin Luther King Jr gave an elegant response to mixing religion and politics. He worried about the Communist influenceāš "Letter from a Birmingham Jail [King, Jr.]" https://tinyurl.com/ovcktqb It's certainly worth reading, even if you don't agree with 100% of it.
I remember once when I was seeking a church, the pastor started praising Martin Luther King. I simply stood up, gave him a dirty look and walked out. And if memory serves me correctly, my action was disturbing to the service. Anyone who is that blind is completely blind.
The below are just some of the things Mr. King believed in.
Doubted the virgin birth
Doubted the resurrection
Doubted the deity of Christ and obviously the trinity
Black follower of Jesus wrote: To Christgp of England: I am a Black Christian, totally agreeing with you. Let me briefly say this, I don't like what is going on here regarding how the ugly sides of these protests have evolved. There is a difference in protesting and destruction of lives and property. I don't go along with wrongdoing no matter who's guilty, whether black or Caucasian. All of this is wrong for every one, the blacks and all others, who turned this protest into murders, riotings, burnings, lootings, etc. I am almost 80 years old, and I have both witnessed and experienced so many things in my lifetime; but I never thought the day would come when I would see almost the entire world come to this. This is sad, heartbreaking and it hurts my heart. I pray that the Lord will intervene. Soon. Thank you for allowing me to post my heartfelt thoughts and may God bless all of you.
I am a 73 year old Caucasian and also live in Florida. That means you and I go way back to a time when racism was clearly practiced in the south. Your comment blessed me and thanks for your thoughts.
I believe one of the chief propagandists in history was Edward Bernays. If you check him out you will be amazed at how easily mankind is brainwashed and manipulated. I believe the below scriptures touch on that issue.
Luke 8:16 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth [it] under a bed; but setteth [it] on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light. 17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither [any thing] hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. 18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.
Mark 4:21 And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick? 22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad. 23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. 24 And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. 25 For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath
Well if we have the liberty to speak out against homosexuality, then of course we should do it.
If we do not have liberty to speak out against homosexuality, we should do it anyway.
The below cut and paste was attributed to Martin Luther:
If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are attacking at that moment, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ. Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is proved, and to be steady on all battlefields besides, is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point.
Chrisgp from England wrote: No Brother Frank, I am very sorry that I have to disagree with you on this one. It is the mayor and the governor who have been the lawless ones here. The governor, in the early days of the lockdown, ordered nursing homes to accept COVID19 cases from the hospitals, thereby infecting both staff, and the remaining residents in those nursing homes.
I know that a government can be lawless, but not in the instance of closing the recreational parks. I never said or meant to imply we should support them if they are lawless.
If they did that with the nursing homes and hospitals with the Covid `19 cases, then they were āwrongā. They have no legitimate right to endanger people.
They should not discriminate against or harangue the Jews or any other ethnic group.
Iām sorry if I gave you the impression that we should check our brains at the door.
If we think that we are asked to do something immoral, then we should "always" disobey. NO EXCEPTION.
Yes, those that murdered these people will be held accountable. Those who support these murderers will be held accountable and those who simply turn their heads to avoid confrontation will be held accountable.
If the city has the authority to close down recreational areas, then they should be kept closed until the city decides otherwise. Citizens can argue against policies, but to intentionally defy them is a form of anarchy.
I wonder if they will call those who disagree with these Jewish residents anti-Semitic?
There is nothing that can stop or even slow down the below truths from Godās word. But, we as children of God arenāt to be part of it. So, we can and should speak out against the way the world is headed and then simply know that God is still in control.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Matthew 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.ā
Luke 17:1 Then He said to the disciples, āIt is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to him through whom they do come!
Neil wrote: John MacArthur falls prey to a Complex Question. Americans, whether Yankees or Lost Causers, are difficult to talk to rationally about Biblical slavery because of this. Clearly the Bible affirms certain forms of slavery, but that DOESN'T logically imply ALL forms are, like West-African slavery by kidnapping, which is a capital offense in the OT. One could be a slave in Rome for various reasons, some Biblical, others doubtfully so (such as captives in Rome's wars). What color you were didn't matter. For all we know Onesimus was a debt slave and thus lawfully bound to Philemon.
Thanks Neil for your comment and wisdom. Yes not all slavery was immoral throughout history. There were also slaves that made themselves slaves willingly. We often see the word "servant" in scripture when the better translation would be slave.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Universal healthcare in Britain came way before Obamacare and is better because it is more complete, NeedHim. Undoubtedly there would be even more abortions if National Healthcare wasn't thereā https://tinyurl.com/yju7mpb (Universal health care tends to cut the abortion rate)š
No Jim, the answer to abortions is to save sex until marriage and to be fruitful and multiply. Do you realize how silly and immoral your argument is that universal healthcare will save the innocent lives in the wombs. Countries with universal healthcare will murder more because their health care will provide for them. This article shows that to be true.
Babies are normally aborted because they are an inconvenience and because women think it is their moral right. Instead of getting married and being "keepers at home" they want careers and the freedom to have sex whenever it benefits them.