What this person is saying is that the below scripture only applies in some circumstances, but not theirs. Why would anyone ask the Lord for something that He has already said no to? What would âtheyâ say if someone claims they asked the Lord to remove their pedophilia, or their greed, or their desire to murder and because they still had those urges, that meant the Lord said okay?
Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
John UK wrote: You're welcome bro. ______________ Pilgrim Brother, I'm still awaiting email. Not fixed yet? This poor pilgrim is suffering much from the travel thingies, and getting me down. But if they keep me from contracting typhoid or other serious illnesses, I guess it will have been worth it.
Brother, I did email you using my wife's account. If you didn't get anything, then I'll try and find it and resend. I am going to set up another email soon. Technical things confuse me.
Just remember that where you are going, blasphemy against Mohammed is not tolerated. Be careful. The Lord protect you and give you grace to serve Him in spirit and truth.
John UK wrote: Ah, you have seen some of these "imaginary" Yee Ha preachers, eh? They convince their congregation through the Yee Ha technique, which gets the congregation hootin' and hollerin', which everyone goes along with, lest they become isolated and censured by the others. Human nature wishes to belong to the crowd rather than stand alone on the word of God. Martin Luther can teach us much on standing alone with Jesus Christ, which is better than being a hooter or a hollerer. After 39 years I am still standing alone in my district on the subject of X-mass. You'll not find a tree, bauble or decoration in my humble abode. Rather you will find me studying and pondering on the massive subject of the Great Incarnation of God in the Person of Jesus Christ the Lord, which was for the whole purpose of saving God's elect from their sins, redeeming them, every one, through his victorious sacrifice at Calvary 33 years after his birth, and his glorious resurrection and ascension into heaven, hallelujah!
Hey Pilgrim! I also never felt comfortable with those preachers that holler and/or start crying. I don't judge their motives, but simply don't feel comfortable with that.
What a great series of comments! I already mentioned that I wasnât aware of anyone who claimed that homosexuality was the greatest sin. I could make a philosophical argument that those who promote it or condone it do more damage. Somehow people feel if they are accepted culturally, then they are okay. But, there is no safety in numbers!!
I think the strongest structure is the family and everything flows from it and anything that undermines Godâs design for it is evil. God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply and of course that cannot be done by the same sexes.
Stevenr wrote: My Bible tells me in Romans that âWhile we were yet sinnersâŚ Christ died for us.â He accepts us in our sinsâŚ And changes us into something that glorifies Himâbut that isnât always an immediate change. But, to let a homosexual think that they can/should glorify God while staying in their homosexuality? Absolutely not. But againâŚ Itâs no different than a Christian committing adultery with a member of the opposite sex. I suppose Iâm rambling at this pointâŚ Speak to textâŚ You lose trackâŚ iâm just simply trying to say that in order to win the lost, the lost has to see us being honest with the Word of God.
Thanks for your responses. They do help clarify things! I will say that you and I probably do look at these issues differently. But, we are much closer than when we started.
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I was away from the computer.
Stevenr wrote: Itâs not about letting people walk into a fireâŚ Itâs about not driving people away from the truth by our horrible attitude. Case in point, show me one sermon where Jesus lambasted homosexuals as being the worst sinners because of their sin? Ooops, no, it was the Pharisees who thought they were spiritual.
You do realize that when the OT states something, it is just as binding as if the NT says it. And when Paul or another of the NT writers wrote something, it was just as binding and spiritual as if Christ said it.
Who has written on this forum that homosexuality was the worst sin? It was noted as an abomination by the Holy Spirit. The word abomination is synonymous with detestable.
Yes, we have to rightly divide, but what in the world are you talking about? Or did I misunderstand your point?
Dr. Tim wrote: Since no reporter or politician has the guts to say it, I guess I will: Buttigieg is a pervert.
Tim, you are very correct. I have not heard even one social media criticize his stance on homosexuality or his personal character. I have always prayed the Lord would give me the grace to speak out regardless of the personal consequences.
From the article:
During a radio interview in September, he ridiculously claimed that the Bible could be interpreted as being in favor of abortion, partly because Genesis 2:7 states God breathed into Adamâs nostrils âthe breath of life.â
The above argument is really evil. Adamâs creation/life began differently than anyone else in history. There was no womb, sperm and egg. Only someone who has itching ears and is an abomination in Godâs eyes could come up with something so silly.
Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Jude 1:7 âEven as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.â
Dr. Tim wrote: Joe from USA wrote: â S.c. Is probably he kind of Christian that thinks he or she is the only one saved.â I donât think so, Joe. SC is a sincere Christian with deeply held beliefs and is worthy of our respect, if not always our concurrence.
You are right Tim. SC is a dear sister in Christ who simply focuses on certain things like christmas and catholicism. I also tend to focus mostly on certain issues, so I understand why she does that.
First of all let me say anyone who claims to have found a genetic gene for homosexuality is either mistaken or a liar. There are no genes for homosexuality, pedophilia, murder, stealing etc.
But, many do not know that Al Mohler once stated that he wouldnât be surprised if they found this genetic link. He came to his conclusion because he noted some sheep who were attracted to the same sex. He then said that even if they did find it, then that still wouldnât give anyone the right to practice it.
I have never read where he repented of his thoughts?
What do you think of the below cut and pastes from the internet?
Log Cabin Republicans is the nationâs largest Republican organization dedicated to representing LGBT conservatives and allies. For more than 30 years, we have promoted the fight for equality through our state and local chapters, our full-time office in Washington, DC, and our federal and state political action committees.
Daily Mail: Trump becomes first Republican president to promote LGBT Pride Month as he touts campaign to decriminalize homosexuality in 71 countries â but Democrats insist heâs not gay-friendly enough in the U.S.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Frank, the source that I used, if memory serves did not breakdown the killings by religious beliefs, you can bet that the majority of them has done by a white person. The Pensacola terrorist Act was not by an Americanâ From a new source that I rarely use, but some here no doubt appreciate. https://tinyurl.com/yx6k8hs6 (Naval Air Station shooter wrote anti-American and anti-Israeli tweets before rampage: report)
Jim, the only comparison I made was that none of those killings/murders were done by a born again Christian. I never thought about race, sex or anything else.
But, your train of thought does not surprise me or anyone else. Everything is not based on race and politics. At the judgment Christ is not going to assign anyone to hell because they were white/black or democrat/republican.
It is nice seeing you post again. And I hope that you are doing fine health wise!
My thoughts about this subject are very similar to yours. I do not consider one day to be superior or more spiritual than another. IOW, Christ is my Lord and Savior 24/7.
And I do know that the origin of Christmas is to celebrate the catholicâs perception of the Mass. There are so many things in our protestant faiths that are RC in origin. I refer to those things as roman/Protestantism.
I consider Christmas and all other holidays to be simply a time of family gatherings; like birthdays or any other secular holidays. I assign no spiritual significance to it, but I understand when others do.
Just a Guy wrote: This is what happens when a society has completely abandoned Gods laws... People trying to protect their property are having to put more and more safety devices in to counteract stealing. Most Walmart's now have gates at the doors and workers checking receipts for the big "under the buggy" items... All of this, because of the complete disregard for the commandment to not take what is not yours...
Now I know this is going to sound like a flippant comment, but this is the way I think. I cannot understand why someone would steal from anyone. These cyber criminals target the uninformed. I get lots of calls and even some email that are trying to scam me out of money that I earned.
Theft would include lying or telling partial truths to get something material that we donât deserve. I have been guilty of doing this many times during my life, but I now recognize the truth of how wrong it is and was.
Anyway, I agree with your comment. Those that do this have completely abandoned Godâs laws.
think again wrote: 'Well, I'll bet that none of them were done by born again believers. Christians do not commit murder.'-I guess David killing Bathseba's husband doesn't count
A general truth is a statement of fact regarding something that is measurable, demonstrable, and real.
The term 'truth' in this context is defined as the 'general agreement' or consensus of those making the determination of validity, however, it does not require unanimous agreement to be considered a statement of truth.
The above is from the internet.
One of the dangers of debate is when someone states a truth that is generally true, but there might be or there is an exception to it. It would be like me saying that Christians love their Lord, but then someone finds someone who presumptuously sinned against Him. Or it might be me saying men are stronger than women and then someone finds an exception to that. What you appear to do is take an exception and then try and undo the general truth by making the exception the truth.
So, born again believers do not commit murder.
I agree with you that there are exceptions to my rule!!
Unprofitable Servant wrote: A response from Chik-FIl-a https://m.theepochtimes.com/chick-fil-a-defends-donation-to-southern-poverty-law-center_3159734.html
Thanks for the link brother! The below is a cute and paste from the link:
Like the council, Chick-fil-A has promoted traditional Christian values, such as marriage being limited to a man and a woman.
But a 2017 tax filing showed Chick-fil-A donated to the SPLC, which still lists the council as a âhate group.â It also gave money to Covenant House, a homeless shelter that is pro-LGBTQ; YWCA, a pro-abortion group that partners with Planned Parenthood; the Pace Center for Girls, another pro-abortion group; and the New Leaders Council, which says it promotes âa more progressive political and cultural landscape.â
Nancy Pelosi is a typical political catholic. She does what satan wants her to do and thinks she is serving Christ. But, most donât realize that she and most other politicians actually believe what they are saying.
Anyway, in the end the following will happen. Instead of the usage of synagogue think of the body of Christ.
John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Matthew 24:9 Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name.
John Yurich USA wrote: All right Frank. Kindly respond to my post of 11/29/19.
All right I will respond here, but no follow-ups.
There is no one on this forum that believes the catholic church worships the same triune God of scripture that Christians worship - NO ONE. You do, so in my mind you are not in the faith. Since I don't consider you to be in the faith, the only time I will normally respond to you is if I think your parroting comments might confuse someone.
In the RCC, there is no salvation outside of the catholic sacraments, so they do indeed worship a different Christ.