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MONDAY, NOV 16, 2020  |  30 comments
US ‘Moving Toward Elimination of Biblical Worldview as Cornerstone of Society’
Dr. George Barna and the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University are urging churches to step up to the plate and work to “rebuild the biblical worldview” in America as the country is in the midst of a battle that transcends politics but is rather rooted in the spiritual realm.

“Most Americans are oblivious to this, the real civil war ravaging America,” Barna said in a statement. “Our nation is steadily moving toward the elimination of the biblical worldview as the cornerstone of our society.”

Barna made the comments as the conclusion to the Cultural Research Center’s “American Worldview Inventory” study, which uncovered numerous concerns this year both regarding the general spiritual state of the nation and the beliefs of those who profess to be Christians. ...


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News Item11/22/2020 3:47 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
A View.

"Thus, in mercy you have opened my eyes, and awakened me out of my deceitful dream; by letting me see that man is appointed to a state of warfare on earth (Job 14.1); that dangers and temptations beset him everywhere; that no flesh can have anything to glory before God, in hopes of being justified in the sight of their almighty Judge — since whatever good thing we do, whether the proportion is less or more, the whole is still your gift, and nothing truly is our own but our sins and our miseries."
(Meditations: 'Augustine)

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News Item11/18/2020 1:19 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
B. McCausland wrote:
The value system of any society is not totally indebted to its Founders in particular, but to its 'makers'.
With all the exceptions, deceptions or deviations, at large the fabric of American ethics, beliefs and principles till the 19th century was deeply rooted in the Protestant Reformation.
All the delusions about masonay founders, etc, though to some extent true, does not change that.
The 'makers' of that country were families rooted in Scripture to which fact there is relevant proof to this day.
Good point. One thing that came to mind when reading through this thread was the Universities which sprang from those Reformers whom were believers.

Most, if not all of them now make attempt to either shed or hide the evidence of their Christian heritage.

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News Item11/18/2020 1:09 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Neil wrote:
A list of Masons doesn't prove the assertion. That some of the Founders were members doesn't logically imply their beliefs were wholly derived from it. Besides, many were also church members, like Washington. Why not give that at least as much credit?
The value system of any society is not totally indebted to its Founders in particular, but to its 'makers'.

With all the exceptions, deceptions or deviations, at large the fabric of American ethics, beliefs and principles till the 19th century was deeply rooted in the Protestant Reformation.

All the delusions about masonay founders, etc, though to some extent true, does not change that.

The 'makers' of that country were families rooted in Scripture to which fact there is relevant proof to this day.

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News Item11/18/2020 12:46 PM
Nick | USA  Find all comments by Nick
It's very interesting to study the history of the delegates from the states framing the constitution. It ended up being quite different from what the drafters initially wrote up, a compromise between the bigger states and the smaller states. Far better than the the initial plan. The Lord was so good to supercede and give us something better.
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News Item11/18/2020 12:07 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Neil wrote:
A list of Masons doesn't prove the assertion. That some of the Founders were members doesn't logically imply their beliefs were wholly derived from it. Besides, many were also church members, like Washington. Why not give that at least as much credit?
Fine, many were churchgoers. Big deal. Most were deists. Most were a mixture of Christianity and the prevalent garbage of the day. Names like Robert Schuller, Kenneth Copeland, Charles Stanely come to mind. A little leaven pollutes the loaf and a little lie makes a half-truth.
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News Item11/18/2020 11:17 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Watcher wrote:
And I suppose you didn't bother looking at the links I posted?
A list of Masons doesn't prove the assertion. That some of the Founders were members doesn't logically imply their beliefs were wholly derived from it. Besides, many were also church members, like Washington. Why not give that at least as much credit?
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News Item11/18/2020 10:36 AM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Nick wrote:
Hey Watcher, I'm sorry about the way my post came across, I wasn't very polite. I wanted to mention one example of very definite Christian influence on the founding of the USA. You should research the Baptist pastor John Leland, and the powerful influence he had on James Madison and the constitution. I think you would be encouraged.
Thank you for your apology, as do I. I'll look him up. Definitely need the encouragement.
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News Item11/18/2020 8:14 AM
Nick | USA  Find all comments by Nick
Hey Watcher, I'm sorry about the way my post came across, I wasn't very polite. I wanted to mention one example of very definite Christian influence on the founding of the USA. You should research the Baptist pastor John Leland, and the powerful influence he had on James Madison and the constitution. I think you would be encouraged.
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News Item11/17/2020 6:08 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Nick wrote:
Watcher wrote:
The fact that America and Canada were founded on a lot Masonic philosophy, reflects on who we are as a society.
Sorry Watcher, but I think you need to brush up on your history.
And I suppose you didn't bother looking at the links I posted? Nope, of course not. You know better than they do right?
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News Item11/17/2020 5:57 PM
Nick | USA  Find all comments by Nick
Watcher wrote:
The fact that America and Canada were founded on a lot Masonic philosophy, reflects on who we are as a society.

Sorry Watcher, but I think you need to brush up on your history.

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News Item11/17/2020 12:58 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
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News Item11/17/2020 12:43 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
At this point I don’t care if the Founding Fathers were Christians, Masons, circus clowns or Duroc hogs. They left us a fine system of government and I hate to see it being destroyed by satanic liberal nitwits.
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News Item11/17/2020 11:47 AM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Neil wrote:
Of course you're not "in the mood" and annoyed, for the burden of proof is on *you,* yet you can't produce any evidence. Trying to shift it to me is ludicrous.😀
Seeing as you can't look this up yourself (or perhaps you don't want to...ahem), I have copied and pasted two pages from Wiki. Take it for what it's worth, believe if you want. There you go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Freemasons_(A%E2%80%93D)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Freemasons_(E%E2%80%93Z)

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News Item11/17/2020 9:55 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Watcher wrote:
.. I'm not in the mood to fight. Go to Google and find it yourself.
Of course you're not "in the mood" and annoyed, for the burden of proof is on *you,* yet you can't produce any evidence. Trying to shift it to me is ludicrous.😀
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News Item11/16/2020 7:28 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Neil wrote:
What philosophy? Give details (chapter and verse) and show how this affected concepts in our founding documents.
Are you acting this way to produce an argument? I'm not in the mood to fight. Go to Google and find it yourself.
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News Item11/16/2020 7:21 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Watcher wrote:
The fact that America and Canada were founded on a lot Masonic philosophy, reflects on who we are as a society.
What philosophy? Give details (chapter and verse) and show how this affected concepts in our founding documents.
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News Item11/16/2020 6:37 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Neil wrote:
I still ask you, what difference did that make? Your claim sounds like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy
Leftists say we're a Racist State, certain Rightists say we are a Christian State, while others say we are a Masonic State. All simplistic, hasty generalizations.
In my opinion, it would make a ton of difference. Would it make a difference to find out your father was David Koresh? It would me, and would explain a lot of the trash I would have been exposed to as a child. The fact that America and Canada were founded on a lot Masonic philosophy, reflects on who we are as a society. If a hundred generations of children are taught every day that they are animals and should do as the animals do, how will that reflect on society? I would think that if satanically empowered men were running the show (as we know they are), we would understand why our society is going downhill so quickly.

Whoever is running the show will condition its people to believe a certain way of thinking. We can see this in society today. I hope this makes sense.

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News Item11/16/2020 5:45 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Do people need God’s help to institute evil governments? They don’t, or can’t do it on their own?
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News Item11/16/2020 4:26 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Watcher wrote:
And...?
I still ask you, what difference did that make? Your claim sounds like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy

Leftists say we're a Racist State, certain Rightists say we are a Christian State, while others say we are a Masonic State. All simplistic, hasty generalizations.

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News Item11/16/2020 4:12 PM
Watcher  Find all comments by Watcher
Neil wrote:
I so, then what difference did that make? I say none; almost everyone who was educated in the 18th Century, including devout Puritans, was fed a rich diet of classical history in Grammar School, which has many examples of and discussion about Tyrannies, Monarchies, Democracies, and Republics, raw material for the Federalist Paper debates.
And...?
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