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FRONT PAGE  |  1/22/2021
WEDNESDAY, NOV 18, 2020  |  14 comments
NJ: No singing? No Thanksgiving?
New Jersey officials -- like others in the tri-state -- have urged residents not to travel and advised against gatherings of any size during the upcoming holidays. For those who won't heed that advice, the state shared guidelines for safe Thanksgiving gatherings in their homes. Among those: Don't allow singing.

Additionally, New Jersey revealed COVID-19 guidelines for long-term health facilities for the holiday season. To protect the health of this vulnerable population, the department strongly recommends against families taken residents out of the facilities for holiday celebrations or gatherings.

Amid that swell, indoor gatherings will be capped at 10, down from 25, starting Tuesday. Indoor weddings, religious services, funeral services and performances can continue to operate under the prior 25 percent capacity limit (up to a maximum of 150 people). ...


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News Item11/20/2020 6:49 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Dr. Tim wrote:
When I was a teenager I used to drive my first car way down dirt roads until they became mere rugged paths in the woods, and then keep on going as far as I possibly could. At the end of one such path was a sign with one word on it: “No.” That is exactly what the Democrats envision for freedom-loving Americans: a dead-end path where the answer to every request for “privileges” (rights have already been taken away) will be “no.”
Why do Americans need ask Democrats or anyone else for what Is already theirs by birthright? It’s for the people to say no to the criminals.
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News Item11/20/2020 6:19 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
When I was a teenager I used to drive my first car way down dirt roads until they became mere rugged paths in the woods, and then keep on going as far as I possibly could. At the end of one such path was a sign with one word on it: “No.” That is exactly what the Democrats envision for freedom-loving Americans: a dead-end path where the answer to every request for “privileges” (rights have already been taken away) will be “no.”
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News Item11/20/2020 9:40 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
"Covid: Dr Fauci asks families to weigh up risks over US Thanksgiving"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-54757583
I don't know about singing at church going but Dr. Fauci had a short video about the dangers of traveling for Thanksgiving❗👎
If former Dr Fauci thinks traveling for Thanksgiving is dangerous, he should stay home.
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News Item11/19/2020 11:32 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
"Covid: Dr Fauci asks families to weigh up risks over US Thanksgiving"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-54757385

I don't know about singing at church going but Dr. Fauci had a short video about the dangers of traveling for Thanksgiving❗👎

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News Item11/19/2020 6:33 PM
Julia | Pa  Find all comments by Julia
This is so dumb my family lives in NJ,so I probley will not see them all becuase of the Coivd 19.
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News Item11/19/2020 11:43 AM
No name | Just south of Memphis  Find all comments by No name
Do you not think that Hebrews 13:17 is talking about elders and pastors, not presidents and other politicians? Something that hints that it’s talking about church leaders to me is that it says “watch for your souls” and I’m pretty darn sure politicians don’t watch for our souls unless the politicians are a demoncrat and you are unborn. In that case tho the watching is evil and perverted.
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News Item11/18/2020 4:51 PM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Frank wrote:
Amen Pilgrim,John from Wales!
Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
But if it conflicts with our duty to God, then the below should apply.
Acts 5:29 “Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.”
And the below is the reward you often speak of.
Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Thank you brother and fellow pilgrim. I never tire of reading these texts.

'Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path' Psalm 119:105 NKJV & others.

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News Item11/18/2020 3:23 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Amen Pilgrim,John from Wales!

Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

But if it conflicts with our duty to God, then the below should apply.

Acts 5:29 “Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.”

And the below is the reward you often speak of.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

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News Item11/18/2020 9:41 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
The billboard by the side of Route 66 reads, "Sing out and go to heaven".

Now there's a place! No restrictions on singing; congregations are massive; there are no republicans or democrats or tories or liberal democrats, no elections, no arguments, no speculatings, no vaccines, no illnesses, no conspiracy theories, no crime, no swearing, no money-grubbers, no unbelievers.......

Bliss!

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News Item11/18/2020 9:01 AM
HerbalMama  Find all comments by HerbalMama
Sing anyway. Gather anyway. Don't abuse and misuse Romans 13.
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News Item11/18/2020 6:48 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Chrisgp from England wrote:
Yes, of course we can sing in our heart to the Lord, which I do very often, but we are commanded to sing literally.
Okay, so sing literally. Jehovah is not going to dock your dividend for not doing what you are not permitted to do. Or, if you are that serious about it, go ahead and break the law. You can always sing to your heart's content in a prison cell.
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News Item11/18/2020 6:26 AM
Chrisgp from England | England  Find all comments by Chrisgp from England
Yes, of course we can sing in our heart to the Lord, which I do very often, but we are commanded to sing literally. No date has been given for when congregational singing may resume, but the whole nonsense of the situation is this. Everyone is required to wear a mask in church, which is supposed to protect everyone else from COVID 19 droplets. If that is the case, and masks are so effective, then why have a singing ban? What is the point? It is about as daft as the Rule of Six, now likely to be replaced in England after the national lockdown ends, hopefully on December 2nd, by a strict 2 household only rule. What is so special and intelligent about COVID 19, that it can see the difference between 8.45 pm and 9.00 pm, the new closing time for restaurants and pubs, that has been suggested post-lockdown, to replace the later 10.00 pm closing time pre-lockdown. Does COVID19 attack the 16th person at a wedding and not the other 15 permitted, or the 31st at a funeral and not the other 30? Does a villager in a border village between England and Wales incur the wrath of COVID19 if he dares to set foot over the internal border?
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News Item11/18/2020 3:49 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Ephesians 5:14-21 KJV
(14)  Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
(15)  See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
(16)  Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
(17)  Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
(18)  And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
(19)  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
(20)  Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
(21)  Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

There is such a thing as 'singing in the heart to the Lord'.

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News Item11/18/2020 3:09 AM
Chrisgp from England | England  Find all comments by Chrisgp from England
Don’t worry. This is the debate we are having here in Britain too. As fast as state governors in California and New Jersey are rolling out rules for family gatherings, we are waiting for our own here in Britain!! As hopefully we emerge from our English lockdown on December 2nd, and a return to a much stricter tier system than we had before the lockdown we are waiting for the final rules for family gatherings, not encouraged by the dire predictions of the two scientific vultures that are employed by PM Johnson, Professor Whitty and Dr Vallance. Scotland, which did not have a national lockdown have tightened up and intensified their tier system, and Wales which did emerge from their lockdown a few days ago, no doubt will do the same. By the way, no congregational singing has taken place in any British church (except illegally) since March, though soloists and small choirs may sing under strict conditions!!
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