“ Simply Gospel; profound Truth; Glorious Savior. ” Thank God for faithful ministers who preach the marvelous Gospel of the crucified Christ of whom neither saints nor sinnters will ever get tired of hearing. Let preach Him, brothers, till we see Him in glory. May God bless your good work.
“ A really helpful Sermon ” The series on Christian liberty by pastor Martin are really helpful to the Lord's people both young and old in the faith,and this particular one ,is no exception.Thankyou again for preachng with such heart and passion. Soon after we listened to this sermon, we heard from my son in America ,of the recent homecall of Mrs.Martin.My wife and i do offer our condolences to you and your family pastor Martin,in your bereavement,and that you may know much of the God of all comfort at this time. Our prayers are for you."2 Corinthians 1:3)
“ Great Sermon! ” This sermon is heart searching and deserves to be listened to by as many saints as possible. Pastor Martin takes the bull by it's horns.
“ most devotional sermon ” I listened to this sermon just after reading about the physical aspects of death by crucifixion, and my heart was humbled, and my pride subdued as once again i hear a faithful brother in Christ with all his being preach Christ and Him crucified, a most devotional sermon, concentrating on the sufferings of Christ's soul at Calvary. Bless God for giving His only begotten Son, bless the Lord Jesus for laying down His life for the sheep, bless the Holy Spirit for quickening the Word of god to our souls, and bless the Lord for giving us preachers like Al Martin whom minister with such fervency and compassion,and bless the Lord for sermonaudio for placing these sermons online for the world to hear.
Lord, to whom shall we go, THOU hast the words of eternal life.!
“ Great Sermon now in Print! ” We have also posted a transcript of this vital message on our church website at www.tbcnj.org.
This sermon sets forth important biblical principles of effective fatherhood that every father and every father's child would benefit from.
Please listen to the first sermon in this two-sermon series as well.
“ Great Sermon now in Print! ” We have posted a transcript of this vital message on our church website at www.tbcnj.org.
This sermon sets forth important biblical principles of effective fatherhood that every father and every father's child would benefit from.
“ Rare Teaching! ” We are grateful to God that this rare series of Biblical instruction by Pastor Martin is being made available. We eagerly anticipate the entire series (40 messages) for the benefit of Christian families and indeed the Christian church not to mention our needy world.
“ Great Sermon! ” I wish I had not seen the movie.
Satan does not need to attack us - just cause a little confusion and blur the lines. We'll steer ourselves off track.
I was raised Roman Catholic and later saved. I saw the numerous Catholic references to non-Biblical beliefs that protestants would have nissed - Mary's role as Jesus's main support, St. Veronica's towel, "chalice", not "cup", (the chalice holds Jesus's in the Catholic Mass), saved by touching His , the Brown Scapular. (from Heaven, Mary delivered this cloth from Jesus's crucifixion to a priest, instructing "whoever wears this will not suffer eternal flames."
Caviezel's statement that he made the movie because a vision of Mary told him to do it.
My spirit wrenched as untruths were being shown or said on screen. To be "polite" and not cause a scene, I stayed.
For weeks, when I closed my eyes to focus on Jesus, I saw the image of the actor, not the lover of my soul.
A saved friend at church said he was struck by the scene when Jesus's splattered on the Centurion at the foot of the cross and the Centurian was instantly saved. OUCH!
My mother worships Mary, not Jesus. She was excited that we would all finally see the true part Mary played and why she can save us from our sins. OUCH!
“ Yes, See The Movie ” I have seen the movie though it is banned here. Generally, the movie is a good evangelistic tool. Though there are some negative points on the movie we should only major on the positive. The part that touched my heart was the Last Supper when Jesus called His disciples friends. Yes, I would say see it if you can.
“ The Standard ” Raymond,
I will keep my eye out for the book.
My subject line was just a phrase that struck me as amusing --no deeper meaning.
Now I do not think that seeking Scriptural warrant is quite the same as proof-texting' --for one thing, it's subtle, for another, it takes into account composite teachings. However I am not sure why you seem to think of the regulative principle as a mistaken application. Surely God as the object of worship has the sole right to dictate the manner of worship? Perhaps you could clarify that? Personally the regulative principle seems to me to be a wonderful safeguard God has given us to preserve our worship of Him, and our liberty of conscience in that worship.
Thanks for the details --I hadn't realized that healing prayer is involved in every service.
“ STANDARD ” GIVEN YOUR INTEREST IN THESE MATTERS, MAY I SUGGEST YOUR READING "EVANGELICALS ON THE CANTERBURY TRAIL," BY ROBERT WEBBER. THIS MAN WAS THE SON OF A BAPTIST MINISTER, BECAME A REFORMED PRESBYTERIAN MINISTER, AND WHILE A STUDENT CHAPLAIN AT WHEATON, BECAME AN EPISCOPALIAN.
EVERY SUNDAY WE "TASTE" THE COMMUNION WINE AND TOUCH THE COMMUNION BREAD. THOSE WHO WISH TO, ARE TOUCHED DURING COMMUNION BY THOSE INVOLVED IN HEALING PRAYER. ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE FOUND IN THE BIBLE- YET THE BIBLE DOES NOT PRESCRIBE A SPECIFIC MANUAL FOR FORMAL CONGREGATIONAL WORSHIP. THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS LEFT IT UP TO THE CHURCH TO WORK THROUGH THE PRINCIPLES FOUND IN THE WORD. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE REFORMATION - IDEALLY, THE REFORMATION WAS NOT GOOD IN THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH DIVISION. YET IT WAS GOOD IN THE SENSE THAT THE CLARITY OF THE GOSPEL OF GRACE WAS BROUGHT FORTH.I RESIST THOSE WHO TRY TOFIND "BOOK CHAPTER AND VERSE" FOR EVERYTHING, THEREBY MISTAKING APPLICATION OF PRINCIPLE WITH PRINCIPLE ITSELF. EACH TRADITION OF THE CHURCH, FROM THE SACRAMENTAL TO THE EVANGELICAL, FROM THE CHARISMATIC TO THE CREEDAL, HAS SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE WHOLE. FINALLY, HOW DO YOU MEAN THE STANDARD "FALTERS"?
“ The Standard Falters, but Bravely Rises Up ” Raymond,
Do you consider the proliferation of denominations a good thing? The Reformers didn't.
I am not sure if I was clear in what I asked. When you say that an Anglican service involves all the senses, I can see right away how it involves sight, hearing and olfaction. But how does it involve your senses of touch and taste?
I would agree that preaching is only one part of the elements of a worship service. What is interesting to me, though, is that it seems that all the elements spelled out in the Bible involve the truth, and our response to it. On that criteria, you could list just two elements in worship: truth and response. My viewpoint is that communion is intimately related to truth.
“ Standard ” Waht changed? How many different denominations have been the result of the Reformation? And how many diffrent emphasis' resulted in terms of theology and worship?
"Taste"? Communion is the focal point of worship each week in the service.Once again, I do not denigrate the importance of or the necessity of sound biblical preaching. Yet, I see it as part of the whole, an important ingredient of the whole. Once again, to use the analogy of Richard Wagner- he went from being just a symphonist to writing musical drama, involving the orchestra, the human voice, stage,storyline etc. as the vehicle for his message. An Anglican service involves all of the senses in acts of worship.It involves the totality of the person, is both active and meditative, celebatory and meditative.
“ 'The Standard Marches On!' ” Raymond,
In your view, what changed at the time of the Reformation? What I'm getting at is that I'm not sure why you say that we've learned "after the Reformation" that different approaches to worship can complemement one another?
Also I was curious about how a liturgical service impacts your sense of taste. I'm not being finicky --I just haven't had much exposure to liturgical services. I wasn't thinking you were claiming your approach was the only approach. I was wondering if you had a Scriptural warrant (which, as you probably know, can be derived from precept, example, or intimation) for the approach you prefer.
Thanks again for spending the time to resolve my " 'satiable curiosity"
“ Great Sermon! ” I am a reborn Christian I wasnt unaware of the insult to GOD by representing him in a movie so I have decided not to see any movie that depicts my LORD and I want you to know that finding this site has been a wonderful blessing for my comunino with my GOD may GOD bless all the Pastors who preach GOD'S WORDS PLEASE TELL AS MANY PREACHARDS AS POSSIBLE to improve their pronunciation because people like myself who are non native English speakers and who have the need of listening to your language and of course to receive the blessings of all your Pastors Thanks God for this website
“ Standard ” If there is one thing we have learned after the Reformation, the plurality of approach in the Church to worship can complement each other. I do not have a "Revelation" pesonality. I like the logic of Romans, the intellectual aspects of the faith. But, human nature as it is involves the senses. R.C.Sproul in his "Classical Apologetics" says a "given" in knowledge means udnerstanding the basic necessity and reliabioity of the senses. I think that the liturgical approach combines all the senses so that things stick. It is amazing to me that a 25 minute message has so much more power in a litugical setting that a 1hr. message that is the centerpiece of the service.
I, however, do not have book chapter adn verse to declare that my approach si the "only" approach.
“ 'The Standard Again' ” Raymond,
Thanks for the reply. I don't think I'm off the mark too far if I take it that you think that a typical Reformed church is a "Romans" approach (as you defined that in your last post) whereas a liturgical church is a "Revelation" or "Gospels" approach. I was wondering though, two things.
1. Do we all need all of them in balance, or were your comments about the different experiences of saints applying also to different "flavors" of churches? So for instance I might have a "Revelation" personality and therefore need a "Revelation" church whereas Calvin naturally gravitated to a "Romans" style.
2. Do these different literary types in Scripture constitute a warrant for different types of worship?
By the way, I didn't meant to imply that I thought you were saying your experience was the arbiter. Sorry if I came across that way. I was just wondering if you thought that your experience was a confirmation of Biblical teaching that would apply to all.
“ The standard ” I do not believe my experience is the final arbiter of truth, the Word of God is. It would be the hight of pride for me to assume that every one should follow after me. For instance, God dealt with Abraham in one way, yet worked with Jacob very differently, very patiently,etc. So God has his ways with each of us individually in the mystery of His providence. God's Word is a mosaic of many different approaches to His revelation of Himself. In Romans He takes us to the library. The Book of Revelation presents us with a stained glass window. The Gospels He invites us to open up the history book. Likewise our experiences are multi-faceted according to God's plan for each of us.
“ 'The Standard' ” Raymond,
Please let me know if my questions get on your nerves --I am interested in your experience for a couple of reasons. Just one question tonight.
Do you feel that everyone would share your experience if they did what you have done, or is there legitimate room for subjectivism? As Mozart, who did everything.
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