Faithful Remnant wrote:
There is more to the word baptize than meets the eye...i.e. more than just immerse. If somebody prefers pouring or sprinkling over immersion, I see no reason to burden their conscience with a different opinion(immersion only) as being the only valid baptism.

local viewer wrote:
Apparently these verses teach that we are never to disagree with the saintly Jeremiah???

Jeremiah, if I may be so bold, humility and erudite pride never did mix. God be with you.

I am being judged as a heretic on a secondary issue that is not the basis of Orthodoxy (basic doctrines of the Christians faith).

Cotton wrote:
This is anti-orthodox.
Ergo by your own admission heresy.
You set yourself up as the quote "correctly state in english" - know better than you do translator.
The other posts were not judgment but simply a correction to the Biblical facts.

For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." Matthew 12:37

In my study of Christianity...the mode of baptism was never a measure of orthodoxy. Look at the [URL=http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/history/creed.apost.proofs.html]]]Apostolic Creed[/URL], [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_solas]]]The Five Sola's[/URL] or the [URL=http://www.martygrant.com/christian/fundamentals.htm]]]Five Fundamental's[/URL] [URL=http://www.logosresourcepages.org/Positions/timothy_5.htm]]]and beyond this.[/URL]

P. Resby wrote:
It is commonly known that cults need to establish their own version of the Bible to make their case.
AKA heresy.
Sad ain't it!!

Modes of baptism is not a doctrine of orthodoxy.....nor does the Bible forbid Christians to translate the scriptures from the Hebrew and Greek. (2 Timothy 3:15)

Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

IamwhatIam wrote:
"Armenian" is a person from Armenia.
Whats wrong with them?
Did they upset you too Jeremiah?
Quote;
"Armenia is a mountainous, landlocked country, on the southeastern edge of Europe, and at the gateway to the Middle East, and all of Asia."

Arminianism

Nathan wrote:
St Jeremiah
I hope you don't place salvation by grace through faith in the cultural context of 1st Century Middle East like you do Leviticus 19:18?

Nathan wrote:
I mean how far does cultural context operate?
It's up to the bias of the individual to which many ministers in churches today do not even believe in God ... probably because it isn't culturally relevant to do so today.
It isn't culturally relevant to be against homosexuality.
What you are proposing is that changing standards of a society can change what is relevant in scripture.
I like that you state the scripture yet you voted no. That takes a lot of mental gymnastics.
None the less at least you still come to the same conclusion that it defiles the temple of God.
Just watch out cultural context does not supersede scripture.

pew view wrote:
Ezekiel 28:13/17 is about the King of Tyre - Not about Satan.

"...in Eden, the garden of God"

Or created as;

"Every precious stone was your covering..the workmanship of your tambourines and flutes was ""in"" you."

"You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you....on the holy mountain of God..."

"You walked in the midst of the stones of fire."

Amillennialism wrote:
This implies that eternal life promised in Scripture is only 1000 years. That is not true.
But Christ promised.........
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28. And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

So it was out of his study of Ecclesiology that lead J.N. Darby to systemize Dispensationalism...which in turn lead to his systemization of Eschatology, using the literal historical grammatical method.

"John Nelson Darby did not formally declare his separation from the Church of Ireland until 1832, at the Powerscourt Conference, an annual meeting of Bible students organized by his friend, the wealthy widow Lady Powerscourt (Theodosia Wingfield Powerscourt). That conference was also where he first described his discovery of the "secret rapture." [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Darby_(evangelist)]]]Wiki[/URL]

The fact that those preacher's who attended and received what he taught...meant that they were seeing the same doctrine from their own study of the Pauline epistles. J.N. Darby only systemized what was already was being taught among the minority of Preachers in the late 1700's to early 1800's.

[URL=http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/Rapture-myths.doc.]]]Rapture Myths; Tom's Perspectives[/URL]

Person wrote:
There isn't going to be a "Rapture"
This is just an invention of that poor overindulged girl Margaret MacDonald in 1830.

I liked how Ben brought it down to the brass tacks that this is a battle over worldviews...not science. Depending on what worldview you start with...determines on which side of the wall you are on. This in turn affects your view of orgin...that determines your belief system. When you apply this to science....will lead to how you interpret the evidence.
If you hold to evolution...random changes over long periods of time...and the evidence shows design and information that challenges your belief....then you have two choices;

Either ignore it, explain it away or reject it. You will be hostle any conclusion that state otherwise.

......or.......

Admit the evidence that intelligence is the cause of the design or information you are finding. This means changing what you believe about evolution as blind random chance over long periods of time.

Do you believe the Bible teaches predestination?

I disagree with the choices offered.

What does the Bible give as its own answer?

Romans 8:29For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

This is the entire scope of the Christian life....after we are saved....we are to be conformed to the image of Christ. Or as Paul said it another way;

He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. Php 1:6

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 1 Timothy 2:12-13

The problem with this translation is that it ignores the context. Adam and Eve were husband and wife....they were married. After the fall...the wife was commanded "Your desire will be for your husband (authority), and he will rule over you." Genesis 3:16 The sin nature in the wife fights against the rule of her husband.

So the text from verse 8 to here is men = husband (aner) and woman = wife (gune).

I do not permit a wife to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 1 Timothy 2:12-13

Part of this message to us today is that what our culture thinks and how they perceive things is important. If some clothing or jewelry or body decoration would associate us with the pagan world, it should not be done. This is a difficult line to draw, because the standards of culture are always changing. Some modern examples of changing standards are hair length and earrings for men.

[URL=http://www.studylight.org/com/guz/view.cgi?book=le&chapter=19&verse=28#Le19_28]]]Guzik[/URL]

Leviticus 19:28....concerns the practice of a pagan culture. Instead of this text....for Christians wanting to get a tatoo...I go to 1 Corinthians 6:19 & 20.

Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

Who gave himself as a ransom for all men 2 Tim 2:6

We have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe. 1 Tim 4:10

...to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. Rev. 20:3

They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev. 20:4