They or going to let the hate groups dictate who they will give to now. Next they will open on Sundays and sponsor gay pride month! I am disappointed with Dan Cathy and will probably stop going as much. Just the thought of them selling out puts a bad taste in my mouth for Chick-fil-A.
I think Nicodemus had two problems, he had never heard of someone being born again and two, Jesus spoke in parables.
âAnd the disciples came and said to Him, âWhy do You speak to them in parables?â Jesus answered them, âTo you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. For whoever has, to him more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has shall be taken away from him. Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says, âYOU WILL KEEP ON HEARING, BUT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND...â ââMatthewâŹ â13:10-15âŹ
I am encouraged to believe Nicodemus may have came to faith because of his interaction with Jesus and he seemed to try and help Jesus later.
âNicodemus (he who came to Him before, being one of them) *said to them, âOur Law does not judge a man unless it first hears from him and knows what he is doing, does it?â They answered him, âYou are not also from Galilee, are you? Search, and see that no prophet arises out of Galilee.ââ ââJohnâŹ â7:50-52âŹ
However, I believe God works in the hearts of people through
Nicodemus was not elect according to salvation unless he believed. I donât believe Christians are elect until they believe. Nothing is there which would support irresistible grace.
There is nothing wrong with iron sharpening iron and being able to give a reason for why we believe the way we do. It shouldnât bother you what me and John UK do. I also think you may have missed an opportunity to learn yourself if you shut out anyone with a different view than yours.
âFor I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mysteryâso that you will not be wise in your own estimationâthat a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;â ââRomansâŹ â11:25âŹ
You seem misinformed according to scripture! As I pointed out, when Israel repents, they will become a vessel of honor. At any rate, you said you were moving on and this has nothing to do with irresistible grace. Unless you are confused with mercy and grace?
âWhat shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, even the righteousness which is by faith; but Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone,â ââRomansâŹ â9:30-32âŹ
This is all about Israel being upset that the promises that were once just theirs is now being shared with the Gentiles and although what you are saying has some truth to it, it isnât totally accurate. Paul uses examples that they already know about. This is nothing new to them. Also, the hardening is done to those who had a chance to believe and didnât. At the same time God gives mercy to vessels of wrath if they should repent, which Israel will one day do!
âAt one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to pull down, or to destroy it; if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it.â ââJeremiahâŹ â18:7-8âŹ
There is no alternative to questioning God in this particular case, but why do they question Him? Is it because some Jews felt like God wasnât keeping His promises which were just mentioned or is it because they were secretively objecting to irresistible grace which they never heard of?
The point is that Israel had rejected her Messiah, all of the promises of God had belonged to Israel, and now it seemed like the promises of God failed to come to fruition. Therefore, how can God find fault with the nation of Israel when this was all part of His plan? The assumption was that the Jews could earn their salvation through the law, but it is actually according to God who shows mercy.
âit was said to her, âT HE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER.â Just as it is written, âJ ACOB I LOVED, BUT E SAU I HATED.ââ ââRomansâŹ â9:12-13âŹ
Just as God showed mercy to Jacob over Esua, not according to anything they had done. In fact, this is referring to the two nations that they were the fathers of. If we read what actually happened, Esua was more blessed financially and militarily to the point that Jacob was scared of him. As far as the promises though, Esua was hated. Edom is no more and Israel has been brought back by God because He hasnât given up on her.
The unfairness would be in the fact traditionally the first born would be heir, that is what I see the objection being. However, God has mercy on who He will have mercy. This was, by the way, a decision on who would be heir and not anything to do with faith.
I donât endorse Catholicism or Pelagianism or Semi- Pelagianism, or Arminianism or Calvinism.
Itâs pretty clear to me that Pharaoh was not a believer and that God hardened his stubborn heart to be more stubborn. Therefore, this isnât about irresistible grace. Had Pharaoh placed his trust in God, God would not have hardened his heart to begin with. Do you think God hardens believers hearts to sin?
This whole idea of vessels of wrath or honor comes from Jeremiah 18 where the vessel of dishonor can repent and God would make it a vessel of honor.
I have never heard of a humanist Christian in scripture. I would also think that goes against humanism and suspect you are making it up. At any rate, I donât think either one of us are humanist, so itâs off topic.
One of the keys to understanding scripture is good hermeneutics. If you do, you will know who is being spoken to in Romans 8:30 and in what context. Paul here is speaking to his brethren in Christ who love God. So what are Paul and his brethren who love predestined for?
âFor those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;â ââRomansâŹ â8:29âŹ
To be conformed to the image of Christ. Believers will one day be risen with a new glorified body at the Resurrection. It is yet a predestined event which will occur in the future.
2 Thess 2:13 describes how believers are saved through faith and baptism, exactly how God planned it.
How can they believe on Him whom they havenât heard?
âHow then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, âHOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!ââ ââRomansâŹ â10:14-15âŹ
This preaching of the gospel is not without affect!
âFor the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.â ââHebrewsâŹ â4:12âŹ
I didnât know you asked any questions. Yes, someone who is saved can get terribly mixed up with Reformers. Hereâs a question for you, when people out of their own God given free will believe in Jesus as their Savior, why does that bother you so much, shouldnât you be rejoicing instead?
We agree then, the state of people will never change apart from the preaching of the gospel, which may lead some to seek after God since we cannot argue that there are none who seek after Him. That would be unscriptural!