“ Good Message. ” In the Bible, the word 'race' doesn't appear: Do believers have liberty to be racist? When it is based on the false idea of evolutionism, NO!. God hath made of one man all nations.Acts 17 If you think there are other races than the HUMAN race, you disBELIEVE the Bible:we're all related thru Noah and Adam.(Ken Ham also has a good message on this at Sermonaudio)
Can BELIEVERS use ANY version? From SermonAudio we learn 6/3/5 that
" One Version changes 'Son of God' to female! A publisher is touting a new edition of the Gospels that identifies Christ as a woman named Judith Christ of Nazareth." By the same token:
modern versions teach racism as proven
at:
http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/race.html
Good food for thought on letting the Bible correct our preconceptions.
Jim's Spannagel's comments below are apt.
“ Great Sermon! ” Thank you for a good sermon. I have always thought that there was more than just one excellent English translation of the Bible.
Also, living abroad in a land full of idolatry, I am sure that had original manuscripts been preserved for our day, there would be a lot of people in the world worshipping the those parchments instead of our only true God and Savior Jesus Christ.
Finally, thank you for the teaching that there is only one race, all decend from Adam. As a westerner, I am considering a nice lady now who is Japanese. I have freedom to marry her, if God would bless and be pleased. Don't worry ! This princess is one of the most peaceful and God honoring Christian women I have ever met. Please pray for us to follow God and please Him.
“ Excellent teaching ” This was an excellent and timely teaching on God's plan and provisions for life. Thank you.
Doug Fraser
Weatherford, TX
Gatekeeper Ministries International
“ 1/2 a great sermon ” Pastor Barkman does a great job in presenting his views on Interracial Marriage, when he gets to Bible versions it becomes another story.
He states God preserved His Word, He just doesn't know how. How confusing is that? Anyone who has studied this issue can dispatch Pastor Barkman's comments against the KJV rather easily.
He laughs at the inclusion of 1 John 5:7 in the KJV, but fails to see any problem with the entire book of Revelation being omitted from manuscript Vaticanus. I find his presentation of this portion of his sermon rather prideful and not very honest. A Christian does not have liberty when it comes to "Thus saith the Lord" How many versions of that does he find.
“ The whole truth ” Finally, an accurate historical treatise on how American Baptist churches departed from the biblical position on alcohol. This is a wonderful and courageous sermon.
I've always found it curious how fundamental preaching can be so exact and literal with nearly every word of scripture, but then stumble completely on the word 'wine'. It is fascinating that this conflict between what the Bible says and Baptist tradition can be traced to Charles Finney in the 1830s and his alliance with the prohibition movement of industrial America.
Thank you for preaching the whole truth!
“ Helpful Resource! ” Practical instuction for resolving conflict in the Church. Presents Biblical skills for being part of the solution, instead of being part of the problem. Guidance for restoring injury in the Body of Christ, with meekness and humility.
“ Great Sermon! ” Excellent study from Romans!
Thank you! Pastor Barkman is a gifted preacher and teacher of the doctrines of God's wonderful sovereign Grace!
“ Intellectual Honesty ” This one got me started on his teaching. I have always wondered why some teachers want you to use a script to study some passages. I like being able to accept all of scripture without dishonesty in the name of Christ.
If you are willing to see what the
Bible really says, you are ready to hear Gregory Barkman's wonderful expository preaching!
“ This Barkman bloke is a legend! ” It must take considerable courage to publically proclaim what is a simple and clear bible truth when 99.9% of other Baptists just won't accept it and many will probably denounce him. So many preachers have gone to extraordinary lengths to twist simple bible facts into saying the opposite: "We know it says wine in the KJV but it really means juice". Lets hope he will go one step further and use proper wine and bread in the Lords Supper, just as the Lord himself told us to. Cheap grape juice and dry crackers are an affront to Christ IMHO, but are appropriate for many given the state of the worldly, apostate churches.
“ This is good stuff ” This is they way that people need to be taught.. what does the scripture say... i would encourage all to listen to Pastor Barkmans series on the interpretation of scripture. If you liked this sermon, than you'll love this one...Thanks Pastor B.
“ Great Sermon! ” The sermon stopped half way through. It was getting to a very important part of the subject matter, could the Sermon be re-loaded in its entirety?
I don't think it was from my end, because I downloaded it several times. Greta subject!!
“ Unadulterated TRUTH! ” I so much appreciated the opportunity to listen to this carefully exegeted, scripturally and historically based sermon. For too many years, I had been parroting the phrase "to abstain from the sale and use of intoxicating drink as a beverage" as part of the church creed in a former church. Everytime I said it, I cringed knowing it was extra-biblical, without scriptural foundation.
Praise God for a faithful servant who declares the whole counsel of God, without feeling the need to cave in to the traditions of men. Sola Scriptura!
Thank you Pastor Barkman.
“ Exactly! ” I agree that the "whole counsel of God" is the proper object of our preaching. That's the point! Romans 14 is very clear in it's teaching about relationships, and that the unity of the church isn't to be sacrificed at the expense of individual preferences. It's perfectly fine for you to have convictions of abstinence for yourself and your family; it is a good and reasonable position, and it is fine for you to hold it. The Scripture is clear about the dangers of alcohol and drunkeness. But you can't ignore this essential teaching from Romans 14 about the church. If the Bible teaches it, then you can't pretend it's not there. This is indeed preaching the whole counsel of God.
“ Great Sermon! -cont'd ” The old addage of "we don't major on the minors" is a cop out. There is no such thing as minor doctrines in the Scripture. They are all major because they are all divinely inspired.
(2 Tim. 3:16-17)
"ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
Every word is God breathed and every word of God is important.
(Matt. 4:4)
"But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."
Let's get back to preaching the WHOLE counsel of God.
“ Great Sermon! ” However, a church has every right to protect its outward testimony and to glorify the holiness of our glorified Savior.
The reason why this issue is being brought up is that so many Christians are looking for logical excuses and human reasoning to justify their drinking habits. Nevermind the drunk husbands who are beating up their wives and children. Nevermind the drunk drivers who kill innocent people.
(Prov. 20:1)
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
(Prov. 23:29-33)
[29] Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? [30] They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. [31] Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. [32] At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. [33] Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
(1 Cor. 6:19-20)
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
Liberty or License?
“ First, take a look at the title of the sermon ” According to the sermon title, the question at hand that brother Barkman is trying to address is what position his individual church should take on this issue in their covenant. He is teaching from Romans 14 that the Bible forbids the local church from excluding people from membership based on their views of alcohol or other non-essential matters. An individual's decision on this matter of liberty should not even be considered in deciding whether or not to have fellowship with him. You may decide to drink moderately or not to drink; this is your liberty before God. But you may not force your views on other believers using the leverage of the church.
“ Please Listen To BOTH Sides Of This Issue Before Making A Decision ” I'm going to be honest and say I don't agree with Pastor Barkman's position on this issue, but it's always good to hear from both sides of an issue. One could listen to this sermon and come to the conclusion that it's OK for Christians to drink, so long as they don't get drunk. But BEFORE you make a conclusion on this issue, I recommend you listen to a sermon by a preacher that gives a very strong argument on why all Christians should abstain from drinking alcoholic beverages. My favorite is by Dr. Greg Mazak called "The Beverage Use Of Alcohol," which can be found at this link: http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonID=970221356
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