I am, however, going to ask this for the sake of argument (and no I personally do not keep the Sabbath on Saturday):
So can we now kill? Can we now take the Lord's name in vain? Can we now commit adultery? May I now steal in the name of liberty? Which other parts of the decalogue were done away with?
I have heard every argument that can be made on both sides thru the years and I must say I have never heard one that convinces me that the Sabbath was changed or that believers have no obligation to observe it (even though I do not keep the Saturday Sabbath). In fact, a very good argument can be made that the RC cult instituted the change to Sunday.
I find it amusing that pastors will preach and argue until they are blue in the face that Christians absolutely, positively are required to tithe (which ther little or no New Testament support for) yet they will call you a legalist and a Pharisee for suggesting that perhaps the Sabbath was never Scripturally changed or done away with.
James Dobson is (and has been) a one-man disaster to Christian families and to the church in general. His hyper-emotional, crybaby antics have wreaked havoc on homes and turned men everywhere into little girls. Little girls can't lead families.
His self-esteem claptrap has been devastating (men who carry their crosses have died to themselves, they don't esteem themselves) and his whiny 'meet her needs' teaching has caused more friction in marriages than he can imagine. How many men have come home after working all day to support their families, only to find their wife in a self-absorbed snit after listening to Dobson whine & cry on the air with a roundtable of women whose perceived selfish 'needs' aren't being met?
Even the few things he is right about, he qualifies with some worldly, compromising disclaimer.
Dobson appears to be a Freudian psychologist (ever hear him mention SIN?), a theistic evolutionist (Hugh Ross makes him giddy), and the high priest of all of the self-this, self-that teaching that has overtaken Christian churches, sermons and music like a tidal wave.
Now he wants to use tax-free donations to 'influence the culture' via the political arena. His coziness with the Roman Catholic cult ought to alarm believers everywhere.
"...anyone who donates to them after this is nuts."
Anybody who has ever sent James Dobson a nickel is terribly misguided.
James Dobson is a dangerous, dangerous man. His mixing of psychobabble (90%) with the Bible (10%), feminized family life and (worst of all) promotion of self-esteem has done untold damage to Christians, families and churches.
When I was in Bible college (dispensational teaching was in it's heyday), the course on eschatology was based on a book written by a strict dispensationalist from Dallas Theological Seminary. The more I studied and compared dispensationalism with the Bible, the more I realized that it was simply not accurate. There is no basis for expecting a 'pre-trib rapture' without REALLY stretching Scripture and taking numerous verses out of context.
Like John, I would never go so far as to say that I'm not wrong, but based on my own study of the Word, I just do not see a 'rapture' as taught by many.
Much like Jim 'Links' Lincoln's beliefs regarding Bible texts & translations: When you study the subject and do your own homework, you quickly find that it just doesn't hold up under honest scrutiny.
Also keep in mind that a LOT of folks have made a LOT of money (Hal Lindsay, Tim Lahaye & countless others) teaching, selling books and making movies about the dispensational 'rapture'.
Jim Lincoln is right. Sarah Palin needs to go home and raise her kids.
It's tragic that there are so many who claim the name of Christ yet see no problem with this woman who has essentially neglected her God given reponsibilities at home in clear violation of His Word. Her husband ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing (maybe encouraging?) her to do it.
If Sarah Palin is a Christian, she needs to go home and raise her children and stop blaspheming God's Word (Titus 2.5).
He's also a lot like that Murray A guy who used to post on SA all the time. He pulls some obscure piece of information out of his hat (that may or may not be accurate) that there is no way in the world his opponent would have had any way of knowing to make himself appear intelligent. He's also good at denigrating his detractors when they have him on the ropes. I'm sure he was a champ on his debate team in high school.
James White is the darling of the pseudo-intellectual crowd because he looks and sounds like he knows what he's talking about. From my experience, however, if you do your own research and study the history & facts involved, you'll find that he distorts much of the truth or effectively spins it to his advantage. Kind of a cross between Hugh Ross and Bill Clinton.
The Trinitarian Bible Society will send you a free Bible (or Bibles) if you cannot afford one and request it.
Also, TBS is a registered charity that uses all net income (above operating expenses) to provide free Scriptures to those who cannot afford them, all over the world. They give away loads of Bibles every year. They offer only the AV in the English language because they firmly believe that it is by far the most trustworthy. They also offer the Scriptures in other languages that are based on an uncorrupted textual base. They give a lot of those away, too. Many people in far corners of the earth have access to the Scriptures today that they would not otherwise have if not for the TBS.
Every year TBS publishes an annual report detailing precisely what they take in (they never ask for money), what goes out and how many free Bibles, calendars, Scripture portions, etc. are provided free of charge to those who request them.
I know of no organization on earth that is more careful in handling what God has provided them or tries harder to be clear and accountable to it's many supporters.
I would encourage you to subscribe to the TBS Quarterly Record magazine if you are interested in the details of the Society's work and generosity.
First of all, I don't agree at all with the premise of your reason for the AV's existence.
Also, your NASB doesn't have marginal notes or alternate readings? Sure it does if yours is a reference Bible.
If I had an NASB handy (I don't), I will guarantee you that I could find a LOT of words that you would need a dictionary to look up meanings for. Any fairly literal rendering of Hebrew and Greek into English is going to include plenty of words that require defining UNLESS YOU CHANGE THEIR MEANING (NIV, NLT, Message, etc).
I have read the Dedicatory to the AV and The Translators To The Reader numerous times and I can assure you of this: There is absolutely no way in the world that the AV translators would have worked from the corrupted, incomplete manuscript base that is used for today's modern versions - including your NASB.
Your NASB is a literal, word-for-word translation. Certainly no easier to understand than the AV (I've read both). Why not use & trust the version with a reliable manuscript base that God has blessed for four centuries? It's not at all difficult to read and comprehend for someone with even a rudimentary grasp of the English language.
I am of the opinion that most - if not all - of the 'new' translations produced since 1970 exist primarily for profit. The only exception (in my opinion) would be old Living Bible. I believe Kenneth Taylor honestly intended to produce a paraphrase for everyman. I don't use it (I did, though, in the 70s) but I don't consider it to be Scripture by any means.
As far as the Bible's influence on Western civilization, surely you would agree that America, the UK and most of Europe (excluding the Godless communist countries) have been comprised of a mostly moral people in recent history. Laws everywhere were based strictly or loosely on Biblical truths and principles. Today, however, it seems that we have lost our moorings and satan gains more ground with each passing day. I believe that the rate of decent has increased at an unprecedented speed during the past 40 years & I would blame this primarily on a lack of faith in and knowledge of the Scriptures by people.
Have you looked at the Bible section in a 'Christian' book shop in recent years? What a mess. People who once at least respected God's Word (whether they belived it or not) now mock and ridicule it at every opportunity. I believe that's mostly because believers treat Scripture like they do.
John, Were you aware that there is an offshoot of sorts of the Church Of England that actually promotes and uses the AV? I don't know anything about them other that what's on their website but it appears that they are also supporters of the TBS.
I have no problem at all understanding the AV. Why do you, Jim? I know many people who have no problem understanding the AV. Millions (billions?) of people have used it successfully over the past 400 years and have found it to be quite understandable and edifying. So edifying that they have used it to the exclusion of the more contemporary versions that are based on spurious manuscripts (your NASB), question, downplay or outright deny the deity of Christ (NIV, and others) and try to tell you what message the Scriptures are trying to convey rather than what they actually say (Message, New Living, et al).
How is it that during the period when the AV was utilized almost exclusively in Western nations the church was strong, Scripture was the primary basis of laws (both federal and local) and most folks had a working knowledge of God's Word? Why is it that most people have no use for God's Word anymore and the few who do have no idea what it says? Why does no one memorize Scripture anymore like they did when the AV was utilized in most places of worship?
What is it that keeps you from comprehending the simple English of the AV, Jim? What do you do with the verses in your NASB that clearly should be included but are omitted by unbelieving (by their own admission) 'scholars'?
The reason some (many?) people don't join in the celebration of Christmas is because of the pagan roots and aspects of the festival involved. If you are not already familiar with it, Google on 'Saturnalia' or 'Saturnalia Christmas'.
I don't understand how that compares to the 400th anniversary celebration of the AV. No one I know is worshipping the AV.