Lurker wrote:And the gread red dragon of Revelation is a literal dragon?It appears you don't want to answer the question I presented to you about reincarnation. I understand....
but just to please you, no I do not believe in reincarnation.
The souls are all ready created.
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
In order to have a reincarnation, the soul must die, then come back to life.
Ok Lurker your turn!
Question, when the flesh dies, what happens to the soul? Does it die also?
But that's OK, because you have yet to answer any of my questions, because you continue to suck on bottles milk, instead of getting into the Word.
Kevin
kevin wrote:Therefore Job has to be giving us a picture of the dinosaur.
It appears you don't want to answer the question I presented to you about reincarnation. I understand....
Let’s take a look at the Behemoth. Many seem to think it was a hippo. But how can this be when we read of the description. Verse 17 states “he moveth his tail like a cedar”. On the hippo, do they have small tails or large tails? We read here that his tail was as long as the trees of cedar. Therefore Job has to be giving us a picture of the dinosaur.
Also note the bone structure, strong as brass and iron.
Here are some messages from the Bible for you...
Psa 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psa 1:4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. Psa 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. Psa 1:6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
Psa 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Act 8:22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. Act 8:23 For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
Kevin wrote:Take note it says “out of the whole human race” that’s from the first day of creation.Are they referring to that 1st earth age? If they are, then why wouldn’t Yahweh just destroy those souls, instead of bringing them into this earth age of flesh?
Are they referring to that 1st earth age? If they are, then why wouldn’t Yahweh just destroy those souls, instead of bringing them into this earth age of flesh?
Uncle Raisin wrote:It's interesting to note that Webster's 1828 dictionary of the English language defines "science" using theology as an example.The etimology of the word "science" is from the Greek word "gnosis", meaning knowledge. Knowledge itself is non-material. What knowledge is not seen through an individual eye, and then interperated by that individual singally? There is always a subjective and critical component to anything scientific, which in a materialistic view should negate it as non-scientific. That it is not negated shows duplicity. The answer is very simple: materialism is invalid from purely a rational vantage point; and to exclude the non-material portion of the eqaution is, at best, dishonest. The semantics involved demand no other conclusion. This simple fact, to an honest person that seeks truth, should make Darwinian evolution just one more failed effort at fighting against God's sovereign rule and reign of mankind.
The etimology of the word "science" is from the Greek word "gnosis", meaning knowledge. Knowledge itself is non-material. What knowledge is not seen through an individual eye, and then interperated by that individual singally? There is always a subjective and critical component to anything scientific, which in a materialistic view should negate it as non-scientific. That it is not negated shows duplicity.
The answer is very simple: materialism is invalid from purely a rational vantage point; and to exclude the non-material portion of the eqaution is, at best, dishonest. The semantics involved demand no other conclusion. This simple fact, to an honest person that seeks truth, should make Darwinian evolution just one more failed effort at fighting against God's sovereign rule and reign of mankind. Let us fight the good fight.
Uncle Raisinwww.UncleRaisin.com"Raisin" the Standard Against Injustice
I agree with him and others that the earth is only about 6000 years of age. Quite old for a person but just a spring chicken for a planet!
Mark.
The flying spaghetti monster bible has spoken.
You wrote,
"On the other hand, because of these threads, I have taken a look at covenant theology, and I notice two things: 1)It let's the Bible speak for itself; and 2) It is much simpler"
Trust me, Cbc, I desire to believe what the bible teaches and I would believe covenant theology without a whimper if it were true.
Please give me 3 examples from Scripture with a brief commentary for each where covenant theology is being clearly taught.
You say the bible speaks for itself on the matter and I am challenging you to prove it. It should not be difficult if it is as simple as you say.(I have given you an impossible task)
BTW, God did not say his intentions were to make everything simple but he did promise to teach the sincere seeker.
2Pe 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
My guess is that you will ignore this request and it will soon be covered up with M T rhetoric.
Mt 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 2 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mt 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Mt 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Then he mentions why they are sheep and why they are goats. It is because of how they treated his brethren.
Mt 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
Mt 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.
Why were his brethren not sheep? Why were they not “one flock if they are all sheep”? Why is there a difference?
This is not a parable!
Murray,
Understanding the concept of judgment in a text is not hard unless one is predisposed to not believe plain words.
Straight from the writings of James P. Dawson and like minded, I see. If you don't mind I'll pass. Too intertwined into an erroneous system of eschatology for me.
Of course, it has nothing to do with Biblical eschatology, so complex is it. This system only illustrates the old principle that what God gives us as simple and straightforward, men make complicated. It is man-made schemes that are the hardest to unravel and absorb.
Even you have your own self-made problems, as here:"There is a judgement of the fallen angels but I do not know when and where that will take place. I am trying to learn."
Give me Biblical simplicity any day!
This is a most excellent question, Lurker.
1)The is the judgement of our sins in the person of Jesus Christ on the cross.2)Day of the Lord judgment, the great tribulation3) The judgement of the Jews immediately following the tribulation4) The judgement of the nations immediately after the inauguration of the kingdom.5) The judgement of the works for rewards or loss thereof of the church in heaven at the judgement seat of Christ while the tribulation is on going on the earth.6)The judgement of the wicked dead at the Great White Throne in Re 20.7) There is a judgement of the fallen angels but I do not know when and where that will take place. I am trying to learn.
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
