Mike wrote:I was fortunate enough to have been part of an all-county chorus in high school, when we performed the Hallelujah Chorus. For a bunch of kids, I was astounded at how powerful and beautiful it was, though I was not a follower of the Lord at the time. It was amazing how it sounded, considering that the individual school chorus's came together for the first time at the concert. No unified rehearsal!
Oh, I looked up the artist that you like - Eric Sloane. I like his work, also, and I enjoyed reading his bio.
John UK wrote:Have you ever been to a live performance of Messiah? It must be very powerful, and certainly shows the immense tonal range the Lord has given to men and women - those incredible highs, amazing!
Churches in the South do things in a BIG way!
I have since heard the Messiah, nearly every year at Christmas time, although, often it is a shortened version. On occasion, different churches, along with members of the Symphony, come together, for the production. For me, this is my favorite part of the Christmas season.
And, it is great to take someone who isn't a Christian to such a production, and share with them the message.
Candle Lit wrote:Ah. .the Hallelujah Chorus. . can't take it out! Impossible. .it would leave a glaring hole.
Candle Lit wrote:Interestingly, in years past, everyone would stand at the first note of the "Hallelujah Chorus" - now, it seems that people do not know that this has been a tradition, and/or they do not consider the message and its glorious fulfillment in Christ.
John UK wrote:Also, Messiah was written for Easter time, although it is often performed in December. I find it amazing that he wrote such a work in so short a time. Must have been God's grace with him.
Interestingly, in years past, everyone would stand at the first note of the "Hallelujah Chorus" - now, it seems that people do not know that this has been a tradition, and/or they do not consider the message and its glorious fulfillment in Christ.
It would seem that God's grace was with Handel in writing this composition. Someone else had given him the verses of Scripture to be included in the composition, but, I don't remember who did that.
Candle Lit wrote:Tomorrow, when I can turn up the volume in the house, I'll listen to the cd's that I have of The Messiah performed by The London Philharmonic Orchestra and The LP Choir. I was just reading the insert from that that said Handel wrote it all in the space of just two weeks. Imagine that! Brilliant composer. Another tidbit of interesting info...Handel was directing a performance of the "The Messiah" in 1759 and was taken ill on April 6. He was taken home to rest and died on Good Saturday. He was buried in Westminster Abbey, and over his grave stands a statue of him working on "The Messiah" with the score open at the passage "Iknow that my redeemer liveth."Ah. .the Hallelujah Chorus. . can't take it out! Impossible. .it would leave a glaring hole.
What I heard today was fascinating, and apparently Handel was somewhat grumpy but very caring towards people, hence his starting the orphanage and other such works.
Also, Messiah was written for Easter time, although it is often performed in December. I find it amazing that he wrote such a work in so short a time. Must have been God's grace with him.
John UK wrote:Candle Lit, it has been a good day today, and the sun shone all day.It was interesting to hear of Handel's life being brought up Lutheran and having strong faith all his life, including building an orphanage in London paid for by concert receipts.it was most moving and exhilarating, especially the facts of HIM being King of kings and Lord of lords and shall reign forever and ever. I'm amazed the beeb allowed it!
It was interesting to hear of Handel's life being brought up Lutheran and having strong faith all his life, including building an orphanage in London paid for by concert receipts.it was most moving and exhilarating, especially the facts of HIM being King of kings and Lord of lords and shall reign forever and ever. I'm amazed the beeb allowed it!
Tomorrow, when I can turn up the volume in the house, I'll listen to the cd's that I have of The Messiah performed by The London Philharmonic Orchestra and The LP Choir. I was just reading the insert from that that said Handel wrote it all in the space of just two weeks. Imagine that! Brilliant composer. Another tidbit of interesting info...Handel was directing a performance of the "The Messiah" in 1759 and was taken ill on April 6. He was taken home to rest and died on Good Saturday. He was buried in Westminster Abbey, and over his grave stands a statue of him working on "The Messiah" with the score open at the passage "Iknow that my redeemer liveth."
Ah. .the Hallelujah Chorus. . can't take it out! Impossible. .it would leave a glaring hole.
Candle Lit wrote:John,I certainly sense your JOY in the Resurrection of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, and the hope that we have in HIM! Handel's Messiah is so Christ exalting. How fitting to enjoy that beautiful piece today, or anyday. It is a favorite of mine.
Messiah selected pieces were lovely to see and hear. I had some tears when I saw performed for the first time 'He shall feed his flock like a shepherd'. It was that section I heard as a small boy in the attic with an old wind up gramaphone and was so moved by the words. I didn't understand at the time, but I noticed today that Matthew 11:28-30 is a part of that piece, so I heard something of Jesus offer before I reached my tenth year. Next week the beeb is carrying on with more from Messiah. It was interesting to hear of Handel's life being brought up Lutheran and having strong faith all his life, including building an orphanage in London paid for by concert receipts.
I'm sorry you weren't able to see it, as it was most moving and exhilarating, especially the facts of HIM being King of kings and Lord of lords and shall reign forever and ever. I'm amazed the beeb allowed it!
John UK wrote:Unless the sinner 'does' something, he will never get saved
Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then HATH GOD also to the Gentiles GRANTED repentance unto life.
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Excellent article by Pink. Unless the sinner 'does' something, he will never get saved
John UK wrote:Happy Easter Day to you, Candle Lit. What a glorious thought!! That our beloved Lord Jesus could not be held by the bands of death, for HE is the RESURRECTION AND THE LIFE. As well as the WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!!And what a glorious thought that because we are IN HIM, we too shall have glorious resurrection to eternal life, having died with him and risen with him already. Praise God. But JOY always comes in the morning, Today is my big day, because at 5.55pm my time, the BBC's program 'Songs of Praise' is celebrating Handels Messiah from the Town Hall, Birmingham. Oh how I look forward to that. I think Candle Lit is an excellent name .. See if you can get the beeb as we call it on the internet. BBC1.
But JOY always comes in the morning,
Today is my big day, because at 5.55pm my time, the BBC's program 'Songs of Praise' is celebrating Handels Messiah from the Town Hall, Birmingham. Oh how I look forward to that. I think Candle Lit is an excellent name .. See if you can get the beeb as we call it on the internet. BBC1.
Handel's Messiah is so Christ exalting. How fitting to enjoy that beautiful piece today, or anyday. It is a favorite of mine.
I did go to the BBC1 site, but didn't see. . .it would have been too late for the live streaming, anyway.
Thank you, John, for sharing your joy from across the Atlantic.
Have a wonderful evening.
What other christian and particularly Protestant scholars refute Hislop? Hislop where he is wrong then where is he right in his book? Is Mr Woodrow decrying all of Hislop's work or some of it? Where does Mr Woodrow stand?I note many RC web sites glowingly praise Mr Woodrow's The babylonian connection whilst battering Hislop. Now methinks we should ask others for their counsel before we make a hasty conclusion-I will give it a try!
Q: Does the gospel need gimmicks and props. I note a number of Reformed sites who use puppets in evangelism. Possibly AIG and Ray Comfort's ministry too?
Having a conversation about Sola Scriptura, Spurgeon, Whitefield and revival. Where were the puppets? If Christ today walked the streets of England would he seek to be more relevant to the children of the 21st century with a glove puppet? Paul? Knox? Calvin? Obviously the Scriptures are the only authority on how we should evangelise-even how to evangelise little children-maybe they are not sufficient today without Kermit the frog ? And we wonder why there are few conversions in England-are we really preaching the gospel? Stand today solemnly at Calvary and look-the cross-Him Crucified
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Scholium wrote:Oh I don't know though John."Turnip" - the thick, fleshy, edible root of either of two plants of the *MUSTARD* family"Luke 17:6 "And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of *MUSTARD* seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you." Don't start chucking trees around John.
No, I'd best not try it...
John UK wrote:Alas, turnips cannot be theologians, as is evidenced by my embarassing post you mentioned.
"Turnip" - the thick, fleshy, edible root of either of two plants of the *MUSTARD* family"
Luke 17:6 "And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of *MUSTARD* seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you."
Don't start chucking trees around John.
Candle Lit wrote:Good afternoon, John,The more I read of your posts, the more I think you are a theologian!
What a glorious thought!! That our beloved Lord Jesus could not be held by the bands of death, for HE is the RESURRECTION AND THE LIFE. As well as the WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!!
And what a glorious thought that because we are IN HIM, we too shall have glorious resurrection to eternal life, having died with him and risen with him already. Praise God.
Alas, turnips cannot be theologians, as is evidenced by my embarassing post you mentioned.
But JOY always comes in the morning, and after five years, AT LAST, someone has put me straight by dialogueing about the subject instead of brushing it aside. Love MUST rebuke, reprove, teach, those in error like myself.
Today is my big day, because at 5.55pm my time, the BBC's program 'Songs of Praise' is celebrating Handels Messiah from the Town Hall, Birmingham. Oh how I look forward to that. And my caravan today is 33 degrees C, wa hey!
I think Candle Lit is an excellent name, showing both humility and yet spiritual illumination. See if you can get the beeb as we call it on the internet. BBC1.
John UK wrote:Should Christians celebrate/observe Easter? No, definitely NOT! That is, DEFINITELY not!
The more I read of your posts, the more I think you are a theologian!
This a.m., as I was perusing news items, I saw a short video clip from the History Channel on Easter. It was interesting, and while there was info on the origins of the easter egg and bunny, it started out calling easter a Christian celebration of the resurrection of Christ. That's good. Is it not?
I remember when I rejected anything and everything "New Age" - even a George Winston concert where I was guest of a fan, but also the rainbow. . .Ha. . .the rainbow was given by God to Noah as a covenant that He would never destroy the world again by a worldwide flood.
So, just because someone else is claiming a particular day for a particular purpose, or music, or even the rainbow, shouldn't mean that we should reject an opportunity to talk about God's work, using it as a springboard.
Hey, do you think I should change my moniker to *NAT* for not a theologian? I see how little I know compared to the other posters. Not a problem. I'm ok with this, as long as other posters aren't irritated.
DJC49 wrote:*John UK* --Thanks for all the information you provided on William Tyndale and the hyperlink to "EASTER OR PASSOVER?" by Scott Jones. Lots of good stuff there (including a strong rebuttal against the assertions of Alexander Hislop concerning "Easter").But it still remains, IMHO, that in Acts 12:1-4 Herod Agrippa 1 was acting in deference to JEWISH customs and feasts (the Passover) rather than any Christian observances (Easter?) that MIGHT have taken place at the time.As concerns Herod: (v.3) "And because he saw that it pleased the JEWS"
Easter, whoever you are, thanks for the reference from which I gained several other links on the subject, including 'Easter or Passover'. I'm learning so much now, it is wonderful!
Thanks for all the information you provided on William Tyndale and the hyperlink to "EASTER OR PASSOVER?" by Scott Jones. Lots of good stuff there (including a strong rebuttal against the assertions of Alexander Hislop concerning "Easter").
But it still remains, IMHO, that in Acts 12:1-4 Herod Agrippa 1 was acting in deference to JEWISH customs and feasts (the Passover) rather than any Christian observances (Easter?) that MIGHT have taken place at the time.
As concerns Herod: (v.3) "And because he saw that it pleased the JEWS"
