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1,034 total votes have been cast on this survey | 237 user comments  ( edit survey )

What is your stance on alchohol?
Created: 8/15/2005 | Last Vote: 15 years ago | Comment: 15 years ago
Disclaimer: These surveys are created by PLUS or FULL Members of the site and, unless specified, are not created by the SermonAudio staff nor do they necessarily reflect the site's position on any topic.

 •   Its OK with moderation
  59% | 611 votes

 •   Not OK at all
  35% | 366 votes

 •   Doesn't matter
  2% | 20 votes

 •   Do not know
  1% | 7 votes

 •   No answer. Skip this survey, I do not care to vote on this topic.
  3% | 30 votes

   

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Survey10/22/05 12:20 AM
K.C.  
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You guys have been taken in by a silly movement started by a bunch of silly feminists who had a few wayward husbands. You'd rather call a substance evil than deal with the real evil that's in the human heart. You guys are no different than gun control advocates. Don't like being compared with liberals and humanists, do you? Well, your Arminianism is ultimately humanistic. So, maybe you should rethink it.

Survey10/22/05 12:19 AM
Gabriela | Newville, Pa  Contact via email
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"plethora of other Ol' Time Religion hangups."???

Jeremiah 6:16- Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

Sound familiar??!


Survey10/21/05 11:09 PM
msc  
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Prov. 23:31 tells us to "Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright."

Thanks Discerned Believer. I do believe this should be our goal. Proverbs were written to give us divine wisdom in many areas of our lives.


Survey10/21/05 11:06 PM
msc  
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My primary concern is what I listed earlier as concerns alcoholic consumption: physical, emotional, spiritual, testimonial reasons. I think the benefits of abstinence outweigh the consequences of consumption. That's my take on it.

Survey10/21/05 11:05 PM
Discerned Believer  
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K.C.

The only liberty you have in Christ is to love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind. You don't have liberty to live in sin.

Prov. 23:31 tells us to "Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright."

It doesn't mention drunkeness in the admonition, it tells you not to even look at it.

You do not have liberty to change God's word, only to obey it.


Survey10/21/05 10:52 PM
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And the Reformed Baptists? I know of some Lutherans (I being one of those) who preach and practice abstinence toward alcohol too.

Survey10/21/05 10:50 PM
K.C.  
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Yes, some probably did abstain, just as some people like Yamil and DB do. And there's nothing wrong with abstaining. Even though Yamil and DB have denied me liberty in Christ, I do not deny it to them.

Survey10/21/05 10:48 PM
K.C.  
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Hostile? Wow, are you thin skinned. Yep, I do have an attitude problem. Augustine had one with Pelagius, Luther had one with Erasmus, and Knox had one with Bloody Mary. And Christ was accused of being a wine-bibber, so I'm in good company. Thank you for the persecution. It just strengthens my resolve to deal with people who think like you.

Survey10/21/05 10:48 PM
msc  
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What about the Puritans? They are reformed. Didn't they abstain from alcoholic beverages?

Survey10/21/05 10:33 PM
DIscerned Believer  
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K.C.

It sounds like you have an attitude problem.

There you have it folks. The difference between a "reformed" Christian and a re-born Christian. A reborn Christian is given a new life and a spiritual rebirth with a desire for holiness that will please the Lord, mind, body and soul.

Don't worry, I don't plan to bind your conscience with the word of God, the liquor has already done it.

By your hostile attitude, Satan has already put his foot in the door of your life and testimony.


Survey10/21/05 10:06 PM
K.C.  
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Whatever guys. But at least you're here where there are a whole lot of reformed sermons on this subject as well as a host of others. Hopefully someday you'll come to an understanding of the truth about Biblical law and its accompanying Christian liberty. We reformed Christians adamantly refuse to let you bind our consciences regarding alchohol and a plethora of other Ol' Time Religion hangups. Keep up your judgments but rest assured that God will judge more rightly than you ever can. I sure wouldn't want to be a Pharisaical teetotaler and stand before a resurrected, ascended Christ who turned water into real wine and not only drank wine with his disciples, but commanded that they and future disciples do the same in future Suppers. You can't be holier than Christ, and the same hard sayings toward the Pharisees apply to those who imitate their arrogance today. May God deal with you according to His pleasure.

Survey10/21/05 7:01 PM
Discerned Believer  
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K.C.

Does that justify you walking close to sin, just because gluttons choose to do the same? Does that make it right.

They too will answer for their transgressions.


Survey10/21/05 6:02 PM
K.C.  
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What's really interesting is that Fundie World is full of portly preachers who wipe their fat, sweaty faces while screaming about "Satan's Sauce" and the "Devil's Drink" with a regular practice of stuffing their faces full at pancake breakfasts and can't wait to have a third serving of Sister Sally Ann's pecan pie or an extra huge chunk of Sister Cora Mae's Chicken Casserole. Gluttony is gluttony.

Survey10/21/05 5:55 PM
Discerned Believer  
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With all the biblical warnings and condemnation of drunkeness, it is amazing how many so-called "reformed" Christians want to walk so close to the edge of temptation.

Many of drunks started out just like yourselves, just one little sip. No matter how strong you think the flesh is, it is still corrupt and Satan is still in the ballgame, regardless of what you preterist think.

Satan is like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Be watchful "reformed" drinkers, he may be looking for you.


Survey10/21/05 5:47 PM
Yamil Luciano | Las. Vegas NV  
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Sorry, the spiritual man judges all things.

I have the strange suspicion that even under your criteria, you have fallen into sin more often than not.

But if you want the liberty to drink, smoke, dope up, or whatever you like to do. I am sure you will find a valid excuse somewhere.


Survey10/21/05 5:39 PM
Wine Gladdens the Heart of Man | Wine Means Wine  
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All I have to say on this topic is my favorite phrase: After the Lord's Supper, Jesus didn't go to the cross with Ocean Spray on his breath!

If those who don't want to drink or have problems with it, don't drink. But don't interfere with the liberty of others who are able by God's grace to enjoy strong drink without the sin of drunkenness. We don't judge you, so don't judge us.


Survey10/21/05 5:28 PM
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All I know is that from a past experience, I think I can honestly say alcohol can alter the brain and cause one to say or do something rude or harmful. I think it's also detrimental to good Christian witness, especially in the public eye.

Survey10/21/05 5:22 PM
Yamil Luciano | Las. Vegas NV  
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That's Neil for you.

He ignores the pertinent objections and chokes over the insignificant.

One would discern his honesty, if only he would not ignore everything else. An maybe one would take his concerns like the one below more seriously.

I have learned otherwise.


Survey10/21/05 8:07 AM
Gabriela | Newville, Pa  Contact via email
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It's funny, I've noticed when someone is shown from scripture they are wrong, and are unwilling to see the truth, then all of a sudden the person telling it hateful, mean, a pharisee, non merciful, etc. Why is this?

Galatians 4:16- Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?


Survey10/20/05 5:47 PM
Neil | Tucson  
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With a sarcastic and boastful response like that, I have little hope of any productive discussion. My post was not intended for you anyway.

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