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1/14/2016 (THU)

| Bible: Revelation 20; Isaiah 65

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Although I grew up in a Southern Baptist church and was regularly exposed to Scripture, I can't recall ever hearing anything about a “millennial” kingdom, much less the variety of theories regarding its meaning and relationship to the second coming of Christ. Like many of my generation, my initial exposure to biblical eschatology was in reading Hal Lindsey's Late Great Planet Earth during the summer of 1970.

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Alfred

(1/25/2016)

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Jesus is the first fruits of the first resurrections. Whether you believe it occurs at the new birth or when we die physically and our souls join Christ in heaven, It still occurs before the end of this age, the 2d coming of Christ. We shall share in the 1st resurrection now. The "rest" be raised at the second resurrection. The rest are the dead, who are the dead. Those who are not in Christ. Matt 8:22. There are a lot of dead people walking around. The dead are alive at his return, they will be changed all so and thrown into the lake of fire.

Pastor Bill (1/25/2016)

from Fayetteville, North Carolina

“ Another try (Alfred) ”
My Brother, Look at this: "And yes everyone will get a body. Why even ask that question?" Because you cannot both have the "1st Resurrection" being the New Birth and have "the rest" not living again until after 1000 years (all of this is Revelation 20:4-6 terminology) somehow including a bodily resurrection for those who were already raised in the First Resurrection!

Alfred

(1/23/2016)

from Godwin

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John 5: 28-29, there is only one physical resurrection of everyone. Your question assumes there is two. John5: 25 is a spiritual birth/resurrection. John 3 there is only one new birth. And yes everyone will get a body. Why even ask that question? I believe the issue is how many physical resurrections and when do they occur. I now lean to one and at the end of this age, at Christ's 2d coming. How many judgments are there? I say there is only one, at the end of this age, at Christ's 2d coming. Who will enter the Kingdom? I say only those chosen from the foundation of the world. I hope I answer your questions, I tried to as best as I can.

Pastor Bill (1/23/2016)

from Fayetteville, North Carolina

“ Reply to Alfred ”
Brother, as typical, I will tell you that it is an affront for you to post on here and argue for a point to which you wholly ascribe only to refer me to a Jedi-master of some kind. If you are so bold as to adopt a view, become also the same one who can defend it. I ask you again, if the "life" those in the 1st Resurrection are given is the New Birth, then does this mean that those "raised 1000 years later" are given a new birth? If it means they are brought out of graves, then when do those in the 1st Resurrection get their resurrection from graves? Do they get one?

Alfred

(1/22/2016)

from Godwin

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I will refer you to some one much smarter than myself. Kim Riddlebarger, Mongerism.com. Check out His Amillennialism 101 series. Very good, very good. I can't explain it as well he can. I am sure you are well aware of the main points I was trying make. It is nothing new. Mr. Riddlebarger is a former pre-trib/dispenasatonalist and pre-mil.

Pastor Bill (1/19/2016)

from Fayetteville, North Carolina

“ Reply to Alfred ”
Do those who are resurrected at the end of the 1000 years get a new birth or just a physical resurrection? If your answer is that "they get a physical resurrection," doesn't the phrase from 20:4-6 "the rest of the dead lived not again until the 1000 years were finished" seem a little strange? Why would "lived" have two different meanings in two verses' time? Secondly, Doesn't verse 6 seem to indicate that those who partake in the 2nd Resurrection are actually "under the power of the 2nd death?" If so...is there room for believing this is a resurrection that includes believers?

Alfred

(1/19/2016)

from Godwin

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Two births physical and spiritual, two deaths spiritual and physical. There also is two resurrections, spiritual and physical and they are separated by an undetermined period of time. The physical or bodily resurrection or general resurrection is for everyone on the last day. The spiritual resurrection is John 3:3-6, that is when we enter the kingdom God. So the event after the 1000 yrs. or the last day is the general resurrection. No, only the believers in Christ are born again. I don't understand the last question.

Pastor Bill (1/18/2016)

from Fayetteville, North Carolina

“ Reply to Helen ”
You would have a very difficult time convincing Paul that the church is not "true Israel of God." Look at Galatians 3:7 and 6:16. One more thing, sister. He wouldn't care that you don't like the system...whatever label you give it.

Pastor Bill (1/18/2016)

from Fayetteville, North Carolina

“ Reply to Alfred ”
Alfred if the "first resurrection" is the "regeneration of the soul" as you say, then what is the event called when those who are raised after the 1000 years "live again?" Are you arguing that they too are "born again?"

Helen (1/17/2016)

from Sweden

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The church is not the true Israel of God. That is replacement theology and made by men. All evil in my opinion.

Alfred

(1/17/2016)

from Godwin

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I have only been studying scripture for about 6 yrs. The first 4 I lean heavily on presuppositions. Not anymore, I try and let scripture interpret scripture. On the first resurrection in Rev 20, I believe the bible is pretty clear that regeneration of the soul is the first resurrection. The soul is dead in sins and trespasses, and we have been crucified with Christ and we have been raised with(resurrected) him and are seated in the heaven. Just as Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father. So therefore the second death or physical death of the body has no power over us. The first death was the fall, and the first resurrection was regeneration or the new birth was the first resurrection. We are buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him (resurrected ). I believe this is the correct interpretation of Rev 20.

Alfred

(1/16/2016)

from Godwin

“ Great Sermon! ”
I would also like to add my own thoughts, although I am not dogmatic, But, as a former believer in the pre-trib/dispensationalist/pre-mil position. I see no need for a future millennium on THIS present earth. The Church is the True Israel of God. The Jewish remnant i.e. Paul(JEW) is being saved during this age.

Alfred

(1/16/2016)

from Godwin

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The kingdom of God is a present reality, though not yet consummated. The kingdom has both present and future elements. This age (already) and its future consummation( the not yet and age to come). The prospect of a future kingdom demonstrates that Christ's fulfillment of these Old Testament promises is typological of a more glorious and final kingdom yet to come. Christ's return is not the inauguration of a halfway step on the road to consummation called a "millennium". Christ's return is the consummation. Kim Riddlebarger.

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