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 4/23/16 7:10 PM |
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@US
Yes, I did see your apology- thank you for the clarification! Didn't end up having time to respond before the thread dropped off!
As for the issue at hand- I've simply noticed that while B. McCausland disagrees with people, I've yet to see her make the kind of filter-less comments Frank and others do at times. Truth is vital- but so is Grace. IOW- You can't hope to actually change a person's mind by bludgeoning them over the head!  . I've not seen anything overbearing or implying a "How dare you question wonderful me?" spirit in the posts I looked through- but perhaps people simply perceive things differently. The Written English language has many unfortunate limitations! Hope you have a Blessed Day! |
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| 4/23/16 6:50 PM |
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@Ladybug
I took the time to look back over her posts. She has opinions and defends them, but she also praises others and simply comments on the topic at hand quite often. Even on this thread, she praised both you and MS for the stand you took in not compromising at a brick and mortar church! I think that none of us are perfect and generalizing people rarely helps. You and B. McCausland disagree on this issue. That does not indicate pride on either part- just that you are convicted differently. Hope you have a Blessed Evening! |
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| 4/23/16 4:59 PM |
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@Ladybug
With all sincerity- how is using the words "friend" and "sorry" or even employing a rich vocabulary- haughty?? I've debated B. McCausland before (Over a certain day in December. ) and I thought that she was quite gracious and fair even though we held very different views. I really don't see the arrogance y'all are talking about - though some of the verses she has used in this discussion may be a tad strong. On the other hand I have seen some rather caustic sounding statements from others that were quite unnecessary. If the goal is to show a Sibling in Christ their error- isn't it wise to remember that "A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and their contentions are like the bars of a castle."~ Pro. 18:19 and "But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy."~ James 3:17 ? None of us will be perfectly sanctified this side of Heaven- and (though it CAN be tempting) we are not called to "help" the Holy Spirit in His work!
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:"~ Philippians 1:6 |
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| 4/22/16 7:40 PM |
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@Looks like we
"to tell a person that their rational is questionable, weak, flawed and contradicting and that they need to have a more rounded understanding which they might have already obtained if they would but take the time to think more carefully, is not a critical spirit?"
As far as I understood B. Mc.'s post, that is not what she was saying at all! It was a very bland, objective statement in responce to Frank's accusation of "picking and choosing"
If I may try to rework the phrasing:
"Simply.. pointing out ... questionable, weak, flawed, or contradicting rational (in Anyone's post, not Frank's in particular and on any thread) in order to aid a more rounded understanding (for ALL following the thread). Surely most posters do this, (correct faulty or unbiblical arguments) even yourself if you think carefully. (which Frank HAS done- see his comments to Jim Lincoln) ". I fail to see any pride there. B. McCausland sometimes phrases things in a way reminisent of 1800's grammar styles. (Which I love, by the way! ) So I think she is sometimes misunderstood and people jump to conclusions that a closer reading might have resolved.
Hope that this helps to clarify and smooth ruffled feelings! May you have a Blessed Evening! |
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| 4/19/16 8:29 PM |
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Hello all! Been reading this thread with much interest. Much of the criticism seems rather anecdotal to me. The abuse of a thing does not logically mean the thing being abused is inherently bad. It is true that there are no verses dealing with memberships, confessions, or statements of faith. But there are also no verses dealing with pulpits, pews, hymnals, psalters, or offering plates. Shall we dispense with these as well? None of these things are commanded- yet they are useful tools for doing things that ARE commanded. Church discipline is fast becoming a lost art- but it IS commanded. Having church members agree on a statement of faith can avoid un-necessary decisiveness and can serve as a protection from charismatic personalities attempting to "reform" your church to their way of thinking. I say all this from experience, since my church has no denomination, membership, or statement of faith. Our Elder and the Men of the Congregation are planning to finally hammer out a basic Statement of Faith due to various difficulties and divisions our Church has undergone in the past few years. We have no building and have extremely varying backgrounds, (Much like a live, in person, version of these threads! ) thus prayer for this endeavor would be appreciated! |
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| 4/19/16 1:32 PM |
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... However in the USA, we do get to choose our Rulers (at multiple levels) and therefore bear some responsibility for them (though the outcome is ultimately in God's hands). So we ask, "What has the Lord said Rulers must be or do?". "He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God." "Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:". (BTW, the first is NOT in reference to Judges.). Now if the Lord had said, "Pick the best ruler you can, just so long as he isn't the worst option on the table" I could agree with the "Lesser of 2 Evils" position. But He has not said such a thing. We aren't seeking moral perfection or pastor material- We should simply seek someone who Fears God and will rule Justly. If that is considered an extreme and unattainable standard, then it might just be time to build the next Mayflower! ... |
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