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USER COMMENTS BY “ JAMES. THOMAS ”
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News Item5/11/2020 6:57 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
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I guess my observation in your comment is simply Why the year 2016"?

Was everything roses through your lens under Obama pre 2016?


News Item5/11/2020 12:31 PM
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Andrew wrote:
All this 2016 and beyond was SELF righteousness.
So everything was hunky dory before 2016?

Your political slant is obvious.


News Item5/8/2020 2:47 PM
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Youth in Asia wrote:
Christians often ignore the minor prophets, but there are always some little details that it's a shame we miss them πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘

Hosea 12:10
I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

....**used similitudes**, by the ministry of the prophets. Isn't that another way of saying God used "figurative language"?


News Item5/2/2020 12:54 PM
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DKH,
From what little I seen in the WEB when I looked, I'd agree with you.

I was wondering if you would mind sharing a Scriptural example of what you were referring to here in your quote.

"I think that a strict majority approach could tend to use readings, that although are majority, are unlikely to be original."


News Item5/1/2020 9:00 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
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Concerning the WEB, seems it is derived from The American Standard Version from 1901.
I don't have an opinion one way or the other as I've never personally used it.
While I think having a Byzantine text as a source is great, its how the translators handle it that ends up being an issue.
Is that the version you primarily use?

News Item5/1/2020 11:10 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
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No problem Mike. On BLB.com, the I see the footnote for defense is simply offering different definitions. It says argument or explanation when I click on it. I guess the online version just has more intricate details.

Virus of liberal governors. Ha! We need about 10,000 miles of social distancing from them to be safe. Isn't China about that far from us?

News Item4/30/2020 9:04 PM
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I see I forgot to finish that sentence.
When you place the cursor over it, there are other suggested words provided or a note concerning the word its by.

News Item4/30/2020 9:02 PM
James Thomas. | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas.
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Hey Mike,

I believe it stands for foot note. If you look on this link from blue letter bible, I think you will be able to see it.
When you place the cursor over it, there are other suggested words provided or a note concerning the

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1pe/3/1/t_bibles_1154015

Just so you know...
Feel free to butt in to any my conversations anytime you feel the urge too.


News Item4/30/2020 5:01 PM
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John UK wrote:
Thanks James, that is a good example. So if the Hebrew is actually correct, and the various translations are correct (the ones you mentioned all agree with each other), then this consensus can be utilised in the translating of 1 Peter 3:15, even to the extent of deciding between mss if they differ in this verse.
Yes, I see now that your point is a great one. And so I am happy to continue to be a TR-Onlyist, and that the higher critics sure do not know what they so boldly talk about.
You got it.

Essentially you have Scripture translating/validating Scripture.

The higher critics only have what can be referred to as an echo chamber of preconceived and perpetuated thought and processes which are flawed.

That's why words do matter when one does serious bible study because the message can be distorted if tweaking by paraphrases or preferences are in a translation and thankfully God has provided means within Scripture to test out doctrines, thoughts, and even variants.

I've always thought that's what Paul was talking about in 1 Cor 2:14-16 in comparing Scripture with Scripture because the same truth is woven through Scripture.

Blessings to you bro!


News Item4/30/2020 2:20 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
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Here's an example of what I'm referring to.

KJV 1 Peter 3:15 *But sanctify the Lord God* in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

NASB 1 Peter 3:15 *but [fn]sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts*, always being ready to make a [fn]defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and [fn]reverence;

Which one is right?

TR has Lord God, Alexandrian stream has Christ.

If you consult Ezek 36:23, which speaks to the same events Peter is declaring, the KJV and even the ESV and NASB all point to "Lord God", not Christ.

Ezek 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, **saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.**

Variant resolved.


News Item4/30/2020 10:44 AM
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"The majority text position is solid and I think mainstream scholarship has sometimes chosen minority readings of passages without substantial merit. But, on the other hand, I think that a strict majority approach could tend to use readings, that although are majority, are unlikely to be original."

John,
Here's one of the problems.

DKH above described the current process of determining what is a correct translation amongst scholars who support MT texts and that being essentially oldest is best. While it sounds viable there are flaws that can be objectively observed within the translation itself. Unfortunately the means of utilizing other Scripture to test out a variant is not within the toolbox of current scholars and therefore a false conclusion usually is the outcome.
Good example of this is Isa. 13:12. See for yourself.


News Item4/28/2020 9:10 PM
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DKH,
I see that this is the first time you have taken time post here on SA so welcome to the forum. I also understand the limitations of time so no worries but I will leave you an open invitation if you change your mind.
One thing I've always wondered but never have been able to find a reasonable answer to is, if the Vaticanus and Sinaticus manuscripts were on the shelves of Eusebius or other copies of the MT for that matter (we know he was the benefactor of receiving from Origen his private library which Origin had given to the Christian community in Constantinople) why were the Byzantine texts the only ones faithfully copied for a thousand years up until 1453 when the Turks overran them and exiled those Greek speaking scribes along with their manuscripts as well, to that small town of Geneva?

News Item4/28/2020 7:28 PM
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Correction...*the apostle Andrew*, not answer.

Also, I can't say I've heard of John Tors, but I have in years past heard about every nuance on the topic from Dr. James White when I admit my opinion was where yours currently is.
Anyway, thanks for listening and look forward to your response.


News Item4/28/2020 7:19 PM
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DKH,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter. I'm always curious on how one arrives at where they are on this and It sure sounds like you have done some extensive research into the issues. I wouldn't mind exchanging a few thoughts if your inclined to do so. I would be interested in hearing what details the Alexandrian texts have that swayed you there currently. I understand the limitations on this platform but just do the best you can.
In my own research regarding this issue, I will say that I have found the Byzantine texts which the TR was sourced from have the foundational trail which can be objectively seen from the see of Byzantium, which the apostle Answer founded, up through the reformation.
The evidence of Simonides is not something I have considered to be the centerpiece of coming to a conclusion but just interesting that it even exists at all.
As far as textual criticism, I'm of the opinion that most of them can be resolved by utilizing Scripture CF's to detail The correct rendering where the same figures, topics, words, are also mentioned elsewhere in Scripture where there is no conflict.

News Item4/28/2020 1:39 PM
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Thanks for your thoughts and I'm impressed with your comment regarding gender neutral being utilized in the Greek NT. Where you aware that the Hebrew OT did not have that same trait? Knowing that can be an invaluable tool for study.

Just curious, would you mind sharing your thoughts on how you arrived at your conclusion on the Alexandrian texts being the best ones?


News Item4/28/2020 9:34 AM
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Great verse Doc,

Peter spoke on those words found in Isaiah as well.

1 Peter 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.


News Item4/28/2020 8:24 AM
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I ran out of room on the last one to say Thank you DKH for your kind and thought provoking reply.

I will leave it there for now so that you can address John's thoughts.

Blessings to you.


News Item4/28/2020 8:16 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
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DKH wrote:
And is it really this important? The early church for centuries had nothing but hand written copies of the New Testament.
Since you've read many books on the subject, One recommendation I would make, if you had not already read, is the biography of William Tyndale. David Daniell does a wonderful job of sharing the translation process and describes how Tyndale used the Hebrew OT to help him better translate from the Greek NT into English and had to create many new words in order to capture the picture of the events. It may sound like it does not relate to the topic but it does.
Yes, the conversations on this topic can become heated which leads to no edification for anyone but I do think, for those desiring deep bible study, should have an open mind and follow the facts and not follow the fellows whom appear to have it all settled already.
You make a good point. The early congregations only were privy to "hearing" the word and didn't wrangle with our available choices today, but even then there were struggles hence the two streams of Alexandrian and Byzantine texts. Interestingly enough, While both texts were readily available in Constantinople in 400, only the Byzantine continued to be faithfully copied up until 1453.

News Item4/27/2020 11:06 PM
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Cont.

.....through the languages beginning with Ancient Hebrew through Tyndales translations into English from the Greek and Hebrew.
I'd be more than happy to share what I've been shone and you can decide for yourself.


News Item4/27/2020 11:03 PM
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Dkh,
I think you have made some good points and have valid questions posed for John to reply to once he wakes up.
The reason I'm commenting is that your concerns were the same ones I had about 8 years ago and wish to share a though or two about them briefly.
I purchased an ESV only due to the recommendations of the Christain book store manager when I went about trying to find the "best" version. The words within were more common so I thought it was better than the KJV and I had no idea at the time what a Geneva bible was. Many popular preachers used the ESV as well so I considered that a plus as they should know better than I.
Only after years of using the ESV in consistent bible study with someone who used a KJV, did I begin to see with my own eyes the differences. Instead of reconciling the differences by seeing which was oldest or the majority in known manuscripts, we simply referenced Scripture(ESV and
KJV) in other places where the same events were spoken of to test out textual variants and the KJV captured the meaning too many times more clear than the ESV did. I am not a KJV onlyist, nor do I think God cannot use an ESV to call one of His own...but the evidence is readily available to see the truth on the transmission of the Gospel through the languages b
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