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FRONT PAGE  |  1/22/2021
WEDNESDAY, NOV 11, 2020  |  17 comments
Successful Pfizer Vaccine Was Developed Without Fetal Cells, Pro-Life Group Says
Research on a new Pfizer vaccine that proved 90 percent effective in clinical trials against COVID-19 did not use fetal cells and is “ethically uncontroversial,” according to a pro-life research and education institute.

The Charlotte Lozier Institute, an arm of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List, says Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech did not use cells from aborted fetuses during research for the vaccine, known as BNT162b2.

“That news may materially increase the number of people willing to be inoculated when the vaccine becomes generally available, perhaps avoiding a potentially explosive controversy over mandates that has been brewing in recent months,” ethicist Wesley J. Smith wrote on The National Review’s website Monday. Smith is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute’s Center on Human Exceptionalism. ...


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News Item12/11/2020 1:29 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
excerpt from, "Donald Trump's experts talk a big game about the vaccine rollout plan. We're about to find out if it's all hype"
https://tinyurl.com/y5cpt6qh
I am anxiously awaiting to get my jabs❗👍💉
Why get a jab? Aren’t you wearing a mask? Maintaining social distancing? Avoiding church meeting? You know, the things The experts say keep you safe.
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News Item12/11/2020 12:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Greg Jennett wrote:
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With a panel of outside advisers to the US Food and Drug Administration voting to endorse emergency use of Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine,
https://tinyurl.com/y6mnsvqg
paving the way for the agency to authorise the shot, we are about to find out whether all the confidence was well-founded or just another exercise in flaky marketing from people who should have known better.
excerpt from, "Donald Trump's experts talk a big game about the vaccine rollout plan. We're about to find out if it's all hype"

https://tinyurl.com/y5cpt6qh

I am anxiously awaiting to get my jabs❗👍💉

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News Item11/12/2020 11:29 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
If you really want to be healthy, eat more possum. If you don’t like it plain, I’ll be glad to send you my recipe for Philly possum steak sandwiches.
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News Item11/12/2020 10:30 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Leigh Sales wrote:
 Dr Anthony Fauci has served under six presidents as the leader of America's response to infectious diseases, but none so unique as Donald Trump....

DR ANTHONY FAUCI, ...: Well, it is going to be a gradual process. Vaccinations will start in December, very likely some time a bit before the Christmas holidays.

The thing that we have been dealing with in this country is a vaccine hesitancy or people really being sceptical about getting vaccinated.

That is pretty much overcome when you get a vaccine of such high degree of efficacy as the Pfizer vaccine which is 90 plus, closer to 95 per cent efficacious. I think those types of numbers, with no concerning safety signal, hopefully will get many, many more people than you would have predicted get vaccinated....

ANTHONY FAUCI: You know, I have been talking about this now for a very long period of time and that is an adherence, essentially, uniformly throughout the country of universal wearing of masks, keeping physical distance, avoiding congregated settings or crowds particularly indoor and trying to do things more outdoors versus indoors, washing of hands....

excerpt from, "Dr Anthony Fauci about COVID-19 in the US"

https://tinyurl.com/y3s8pqty

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News Item11/12/2020 8:32 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Mike wrote:
Better yet, strengthen the immune system. Eat well, drink clean water, wash hands like mum said. Get some fresh air. Exercise as much as able. Yes, avoid crowds as much as practical. Rely less on man’s magical solutions, which are often based on seeing the body as merely a combination of chemicals.
Mike, I will drink to that. Clean water of course, or some carrot juice. I haven't had the flu or a common cold since giving up drinking cow milk (2008), which of course is designed by God to be drunk by little cows not humans.

BTW if anyone wants to try it out, but really need some milk in their tea or coffee, do try what I use, which is Alpro Soya. It is very nice, and can be used in cereals also, or drunk on its own.

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News Item11/12/2020 8:20 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Lee wrote:
The best way to avoid the flu is to avoid the vaccine and avoid people. Live in a void.
Better yet, strengthen the immune system. Eat well, drink clean water, wash hands like mum said. Get some fresh air. Exercise as much as able. Yes, avoid crowds as much as practical. Rely less on man’s magical solutions, which are often based on seeing the body as merely a combination of chemicals.
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News Item11/12/2020 3:16 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Nick wrote:
Hope this is more effective than the Flu vaccine. The one in my family who gets the Flu the most is the one who gets the vaccine.
The best way to avoid the flu is to avoid the vaccine and avoid people. Live in a void.
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News Item11/11/2020 9:48 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The flu vaccine if I remember reading correctly is 50 to 70%, effective this vaccine is supposedly 90% effective. This would make it as effective as the measles vaccine.
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News Item11/11/2020 8:00 PM
Nick | USA  Find all comments by Nick
Hope this is more effective than the Flu vaccine. The one in my family who gets the Flu the most is the one who gets the vaccine.
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News Item11/11/2020 2:54 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
This is an interesting statement from Wikipedia.

Quote:-
"As of 9 November, the preliminary analysis of BNT162b2 did not provide evidence of efficacy in elderly people or children, its ability to prevent severe infections, or its duration of immune effect.[4][6] Side effects include aches and fever.[4] The preliminary results were not independently peer-reviewed for accuracy and had not been published in a medical journal.[4]
(Wiki)

I identify as an "elderly people"

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News Item11/11/2020 1:21 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Dr. Fauci does not make the decisions regarding whether or not vaccinations are mandatory. He is an advisor to decision makers. Governors are more likely to impose these kinds of requirements thru their health departments.
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News Item11/11/2020 12:36 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Mike, Fauci is a great believer in people getting vaccinated ❗👍💉
Just from what I've read I don't have a feeling he believes in forcing vaccinations.
excerpt from, 'There may be a COVID-19 vaccine by the end of the year, but 'normality' may not come until end of 2021"
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Normality will come when those who no longer need abnormality allow it.

As for a rushed covid vaccine being 90% effective, dream on. How many years have flu vaccines been available and still they are only 45-55% effective?

PS what does it matter what Fauci believes? His beliefs change with his perceptions of necessity, and don't bother to say it's because he finds new information. He knows how viruses act. He also knows how politics plays out.

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News Item11/11/2020 10:17 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike, Fauci is a great believer in people getting vaccinated ❗👍💉

Just from what I've read I don't have a feeling he believes in forcing vaccinations.

Karen Weintraub wrote:
....
But even if everyone got a vaccine that effective, 1 out of 10 people wouldn't be protected against COVID-19. And it's impossible to know for certain who is protected until an infection proves they're not.

That's why experts say that roughly 70% of the population will need to be vaccinated to provide so-called herd immunity – enough protection to interrupt the chain of transmission and protect the vast majority of people....

With measles, which is more contagious than COVID-19, that figure is about 90%, and there have been outbreaks in recent years in communities where the vaccination rate has fallen below that level....

excerpt from, 'There may be a COVID-19 vaccine by the end of the year, but 'normality' may not come until end of 2021"

https://tinyurl.com/y236xr7b

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News Item11/11/2020 9:36 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
"Fauci says he trusts Pfizer, will take vaccine if FDA approves it"
https://tinyurl.com/yy9qwxkx
I support Fauci's choice to do so. I'm sure he will support those who choose not to.
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News Item11/11/2020 8:13 AM
John Lee | Wales  Find all comments by John Lee
Chrisgp from England wrote:
...into requiring vaccines to carry some kind of permanent identity marker or luminous dye, and to make the vaccine mandatory for all with no exceptions allowed, but even for any religious reasons.
Hi Chris, I do not know if this account is true, but this is what Michelle Roberts, the health online editor, said about:-

Will the vaccines be compulsory?

"No. It will be optional and offered first to those who could benefit the most, such as the elderly and healthcare workers."

"England’s Health Secretary Matt Hancock has confirmed: “We are not proposing to make this compulsory – not least because I think the vast majority of people are going to want to have it.”"

"If it becomes available, children will not routinely be offered it because they are low risk."

Apparently it will shortly be available, and then we will know whether or not it is compulsory and part of a plot.

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News Item11/11/2020 7:59 AM
Chrisgp from England | England  Find all comments by Chrisgp from England
The trouble is I do not trust De Fauci, or our own Professor Whitty and Dr Vallance, nor our Health Minister, Matt Hancock and the Cabinet Minister, Michael Gove, who are also in to lockdowns, mask wearing and vaccines. While it is good that the Pfizer vaccine does not apparently use aborted foetal tissue, it is one of the RNA vaccines, and I am not at all sure that that does not interfere with our DNA. Also the globalists might be bounced by their success in getting “democratic” countries to use restrictive measures and destroy their citizen’s freedoms and their economy into requiring vaccines to carry some kind of permanent identity marker or luminous dye, and to make the vaccine mandatory for all with no exceptions allowed, but even for any religious reasons. Also, the pressure to use foetal tissue is very strong, and other candidate vaccines could be used if the Pfizer one runs low. It has to be administered twice within a two week period and stored in deep freezers with nitrogen gas, and that will make it difficult and expensive to transport and store.
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News Item11/11/2020 1:20 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
"Fauci says he trusts Pfizer, will take vaccine if FDA approves it"

https://tinyurl.com/yy9qxwkx

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