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12/11/07 9:22 PM |
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R. K. Borill wrote: It was you who placed man in the position of giving God permission to do something or as you said man can "allow God to do it". I know that it is easier for you to fight against a straw man but please discipline your mind to focusing on what I state, not on what you wish me to state so that you can prop up your position. It's not really hard to conceive, especially when the Bible clearly declares it: One gives a gift and the receiver has a choice to accept it or to reject it. R. K. Borill wrote: Moreover, simply because man has been given the power to choose (volition) and just because God has told him what choice is the right choice to make in no way proves that he has the ability to make the right choice or that he will make the right choice. That scenario only exists in the F_anciful L_and of the Calvinist. Out here in the real world, that is not how it works. The idea that God gives man a volition that does not work is ludicrous. And taking into account that such a fanciful idea is nowhere found in the pages of Holy Writ debases such a notion into the arena of wishful thought.It's high time the Calvinist begins with the Word of God for a change. ... |
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12/11/07 6:16 PM |
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R. K. Borill wrote: If men could "allow God to do it" would this not in itself be doing a "good"? No. The only ones that think on those terms are the Calvinist. A gift can be received or rejected. In either case, it is the giver that is doing the good, not the receiver. If you allow me to clean your car, it is not you allowing me that is meritorious, but rather I offering it to you. If God offers to wash your sins away, it is not he that cognizantly accepts the offer that does the good but God who offers it. That is why, it is written in Isaiah 1vs. 18-19 wrote: Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. 19If ye be willing ... The Bible makes it quite clear that the issue of salvation is a problem of volition to accept a gift not an inability to accept it. _________________________________________________
R. K. Borill wrote: Furthermore, giving permission implies servitude. Is the Almighty a servant of man? Again, only the Calvinist thinks in those terms. Giving gifts has nothing to do with the giver being a servant. |
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12/11/07 3:56 PM |
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R. K. Borill wrote: "Can the ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Then may ye do good which are accustomed to evil". No, but he can allow God to do it. |
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12/9/07 5:23 PM |
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Ok. You are playing the game of equivocation.You do not want to admit that your emotional and intelligent faculties worked so you want to create a dichotomy where a dichotomy does not exist. It's kinda like creating a spiritual pizza and a carnal pizza. Silly. Yes. Even if what you said were possible, there is no record of such a state anywhere in the Bible. In fact the Bible is filled with examples that completely betray your position, like the centurion servant who worshiped God and feared him before he was baptized with the Holy Spirit. In fact the Bible clearly state that we reject Christ, NOT because we cannot receive him, but rather because we WOULD not receive him. The problem with depravity is not the lack of ability, but rather the lack of volition. Your definition forces one to create a logical leap because: 1. You yourself stated that the center of intellect and emotion is the soul NOT the spirit. 2. Your definition cannot be consistently applied in all of its occurrences. 3. Even Ephesians 2, the passage you quote to, completely contradicts your position. |
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12/8/07 11:05 PM |
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I know. It's too simple for you.That is why I am here. To help you understand. Physical death is the body separated from the spirit. Dead faith is faith separated from works. One thing is for sure. It is not inability to have faith. That would be a self-contradiction. How can one have faith that he is unable to have. So you see, your convoluted definition, does not make sense even using your own standard. _______________________________________ DB wrote: I never stated that faith comes after salvation, but is a fruit of the Spirit, that only a regenerated person has. Well, when I scrolled over to when GLAS made the question. You answered in the affirmative. If you did not believe that, then there was no reason for you to do so.DB wrote: BTW, I wasn't fooled by GLAS, I knew it you the whole time, unless you have a twin who is exactly like you. Ha! Well I am glad to see that you are spooked by me.Just remember, every time truth is spoken. It is me. Remember that. |
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12/8/07 1:45 PM |
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Wayne M. wrote: "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that you should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you." John 15:16 This verse shows Jesus does the choosing. Chosen to what? Nothing about salvation Wayne. Read the chapter again unless you are going to state that bearing fruit is equal to salvation which you would fall in danger to adding to the gospel a requirement that God does not place on it.You have two problems with your misinterpretation: 1. Jesus is not talking about salvation. 2. Even if he were it says nothing about his choosing being arbitrary to only a few. If you sincerely care about the truth, then you would not take those two objections so lightly. |
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12/8/07 1:39 PM |
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It is quite apparent that the Calvinist believes in justification by election alone and not by faith alone.Otherwise: 1. They would not attribute the ability to have faith to a works salvation. 2. They would not place the adoption of unconditional election as a requirement for the true Cristian. Come on now. Let's be honest. |
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