“ Great Sermon, but Pathetic Commenting! ” I read some of these comments, and I feel disgusted. I don't believe that the purpose of having comments for sermons was to: a) add to the sermon, b) try to refute the sermon, or c) start an argument blog. Scholars have been arguing over the charismatic movement for years. Does anyone really think that his comment will present that one verse or idea that will prove his belief while clearly refuting what's contrary to it? That's ludicrous, and it often simply leads to Christians "biting and devouring one another" while ripping verses out of context in an effort to support their own agenda. How about we just leave comments to what they were intended for: stating how the Lord used the sermon in your life. If He didn't use it in your life, then maybe you should just remain silent instead of bragging about it or presenting a three-point outline on why you disagreed. I believe that this was a great sermon, and I appreciate anyone as bro. Greer who really studies out God's Word and exegetes it before preaching. Maybe the rest of us should try to do the same.
“ Great Sermon! ” To those that think you have the gift of tongues.What language do you speak? Has any one been saved through your gift? Why do you need translators when you go on mission trips? Can you drink anything deadly like poison and not have it harm you like Jesus said in Mark 16:18?If you can take one gift from Mark chapter 16:17-18 why can’t you take them all? After all Jesus said these SIGNS shall follow them that believe. Some of you have said that the gifts never stopped right? Grow up! When Jesus was asked by the disciples how to pray, don’t you think he would have told them about a secret praise language? Of course he would have. Most of you that disagree have some other book that calls its self a Bible but it isn’t. Only the King James AV 1611 can help you, no one can deny that. Wake up study and rightly divide the word 2nd Tim 2:15; oh, if you don’t have a KJV then I guess you might of missed that. No one ever spoke in tongues in the Bible unless one of the Apostles was present to pray for them with laying on of hands. Where are the Apostles today? Philip performed signs and wonders but it was the Apostles that had to be called to Samaria to pray for the Holy Ghost to fall on them. This and other signs were to authenticate Gods word to the Jews for they require a sign!
“ Michael Clark... ” Mike, all the tongue speaking signs in Acts(2,10,19)were geared toward Jews, not just 2. If you note, even Peter thought the Gentiles in 10 were somehow to be treated differently than Jews. 3 times God had to intervene and show him indirectly that 'What God has cleansed you must not call unclean'(acts 10:9). This sign was a sign of judgement even for Peter that he must change his ways. In Acts 19 the signs were geared toward the Jewish disciples themselves who thought the Baptism of John saved them(of repentance). They themselves needed this tongue sign to believe in Holy Spirit. ... Also see fulfillment of prophecy in 1Cor14:21. Thus this sign is a sign of Judgement and one can choose Christ as Lord and Saviour (baptism in Holy Spirit-salvation) or Baptism by Fire-eternal damnation Mat3:11
Peace All
“ Great Sermon! ” This is a great defense of the Biblical TRUTH of particular redemption. The only people who LIMIT the atonement are the Arminians who limit the power of the Cross. The Bible teaches a salvation that actually saves and an atonement that truly atones. I definitely recommend this sermon.
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“ Great Sermon! ” Excellent message! Thank you for teaching the correct view of the forknowledge of God!
May the Sovereign Lord continue to bless your life and ministry!
“ paul w yates ” Thanks for pointing out that spiritual gifts are for edifying the body. I've downloaded the sermons you recommend and will listen to them. I would very much appreciate if you would e-mail me, this kind of posting doesn't bring light.
In God's mercy,
Richard
“ Fairly Good Message! ” Dear brother Greer,
I agree wholeheartedly with the essential thrust of your sermon, but I believe it was Biblically weak in a number of ways. I, myself have come out of the Charismatic/Pentecostal movement, and have embraced that particular doctrine, as well as the counter-doctrine of that phenomenon. Presently, I hold to the doctrines of election/sovereign grace, though, perhaps more loosely than those of your denomination.
I must say that refuting Pentecostalism and the so-called second blessing of "the Baptism of the Holy Spirit," is somewhat difficult, primarily because of
1Cor. 12-14, and the ambiguity that seems to be therein.
The the perspective and answer given and held by contemporary dispensationalists is, in my opinion the most compelling argument to refute the present-day use of this and all of the "revelatory" gifts listed in that passage.
The happenings in the Book of Acts were clearly a transitional phase between the time of the Old Covenant Jewish economy and the inauguration and full establishment of the New Testament church. In Acts 2, it was all Jews who were recipients of the prophetic use of tongues; in Acts 10 it was Gentiles and in Acts19, Samaritans. All of these entities have been fused in the New Covenant.
Out of characters.
Blessings!
“ Excellent sermon!! ” I just finished listening to this sermon by Pastor Allison. Fear thou not![Isaiah 41:10] I am really loving the book of Isaiah it has so many great names and attributes of My God. I am so encouraged by this book and that anytime I am fearful or get depressed and start to have a pity party, I am shaken out of that mood when I read all the Great Promises that are in this book and I just lean on my God, The Lord Jehovah Isa.12:2,Isa.26:4,and He sees me through all the tough times. Also the people that call themselves jehovah's witnesses don't MY JEHOVAH. MY JEHOVAH IS JESUS. He is the one I adore and it makes Psalm 73:25-26, so much more real to me. He is all my desire in this life. Thank You,Sermon Audio, You are the best in my book. In Christ, Bruce Lantto
“ rwalker.. ” spriritual gifts are for serving others, not self. paul is condemming when he said "he that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself" that is not a good thing. listen to william o. einwhecter 1cor series for a good sound case, you just have to have an open mind. god bless
“ Well presented, but... ” The Pentecosstal/charismatic church I attend teaches that the gifts of the spirit eg speaking in tongues isn't the only proof of being filled. The teaching at the church emphasizes fruit not gifts. However, as one who has the gift, I know it edifies me. That doesn't make me better than my brethren, but it's a gift to edify me.
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 1Cor 14:4
Speaking in another tongue can't edify my more than my mother tongue.
For example, when an English song, chorus or hymn is sung in church it is never as moving as a song chorus or hymn in Kiswahili, our national langage.
I was raised bi-lingual but I find that when I worship I want to speak in Kiswahili, my mother tongue. I believe this common to any bilingual person.
...he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. 1Cor 14:2
Another thing to note, the Apostle say that when one speaks in tongues he speaks to God, but in the spirit speaks mysteries. Having experienced the blessing of tongues, and desiring for the greater gifts, I can't agree with the speaker.
“ Great Sermon! ” Praises to God! this edifying, power pact Sermon not only points out the critical errors in the Koran; but expounds the Gospel in Truth. This Sermon I believe is a great resource tool for Pastors and Teachers, for those needing to understand the errors of the Koran, to become more foundational in their faith in The Lord Jesus Christ. Thanks to God for this great teaching! Praise God! I am edified tonight.
“ Good points ” Thank you for your explanation of speaking in unknown tongues. I've always been confused as to why God would give us a "heavenly" language that no one could understand. You really tied together the scriptures on tongues in Acts and 1 Corinthians 14 in a clear and thoughtful way.
As a helpful note to other commentators, please use spell check if you want to be taken seriously.
“ wake up!! ” I see DannyBoy is full of the same misguided spirit he was on this page...http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=7120014323...Young man, you need to read Andrew's testimony very carefully!! The false sense of spiritual security held by you and all the other folks being deceived by charismatic heresy will eventually fall like a house of cards. Don't listen to me...take heed of the Savior's words in Matt. 7:24-27..."Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it." Can you not see that He is speaking of YOU?? Build your house on the solid foundation of His WORDS, not on an emotional feeling. That will do you no good when REAL trials come!! A biblically based, scripturally sound foundation of faith is what you and everyone in the world NEEDS.
“ Unholy Deception.... ” Praise God for Phyllis's deliverance from heresy!!
As for poor souls like DannyBoy, Ron, Bill, and Roberta...those of us who see GOD's Truth clearly, rather than what we "want" to believe because of an earthly desire for an "experience," will be praying earnestly that God's REAL Holy Spirit reveals to you the error you are absorbed in!!
As for "pastor" Dennis...I know you are sincere in your beliefs. Sincerely WRONG, that is. James 3:1 warns us "let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment," so you don't have to answer to me, but will surely be held accountable by GOD when you stand before the Great White Throne of Judgment!!
What is so hard to understand about 1 Cor. 13:8-10..."Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." The Greek verb in verse 8 referring to tongues (LANGUAGES!!) refers to it vanishing on its OWN...the verb used about prophecy and knowledge refers to an end by FORCE. Verse 10 clearly says when Christ returns the need for prophecy and knowledge will end.
“ Great Sermon! ” My husband and I recently have left the Assembly of God denomination after thirty-three years due to a watered-down gospel, leadership working along with the Roman Catholic Church, etc. I have been seriously questioning teaching on the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. I do appreciate the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the power in Him for a life that is Spirit controlled and pleasing to Christ. Please pray for us that we will be led in truth and protected from error. May God receive all the glory!
“ Great Sermon! ” Greetings Dr Mark Allison in Jesus name.I thank you for your stand against the Biblical errors of Mr Harold Campings Family Radio program.I have read part of his Book called The end of the church age and after and my how sad it is that he has been blinded by satan to the Biblical truth.We are not in the great tribulation because if it was going on the Christian Church would be in heaven.Apostasy is running rampant across the land and family radio is right smack in the center of it leading honest souls away from truth.
Bless you in Jesus.
Brother Miller.
“ Rename Unpardonalbe Sin ” John7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
John14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
This sermon even pleases my soul, because it gives light to God's Word that they will not enter in and also forbid those who might enter in.
DannyBoy
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