When making an ethical conclusion about any topic or issue we need to self-consciously bring our own likes, dislikes and ethical assumptions into subjection to Scripture or else we will find ourselves at odds with God's Kingdom plans. The institution of slavery is a good litmus test showing what standard we are using to obtain our ethics.
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“ Great Sermon! ” The sermon is highly relevant to the MLK50 conference involving SBC. Because they have thrown away exegetical faithfulness to passages like this on slavery the racial division in churches will only continue to increase along with religious, political, and social turmoil. The Leaven of false teaching and abolitionism started it all.
A major division regarding race and MLK within Christianity is currently being tweeted and blogged about vigorously. This message is biblically faithful but heretical to a Democratic Socialist worldview. Divisions are therefore necessary as evidenced by Romans 16 verses 17 + 18 to Mark and avoid those contrary to the doctrine of scripture.
Ndidi (4/6/2018)
from London and Abuja
“ Care needed ” Scripture tells us that God used slavery as a punishment when a nation's collective sins became too gross. But some of the enslaved would be God's own eg Daniel, so within slavery, restraint needed to be shown by slave masters. Humans are born free and that's what God intended. I am a British citizen with Nigerian ancestry and for the past 3 years am doing development work in Nigeria. The culture there is cruel and consists of daily HUMAN SACRIFICE even among those who claim Christianity, and the version of Christianity among Nigerians would be unrecognizable to those in the West. When you see how Nigerians lack respect for Black life, you may understand why God would use enslavement to punish such a people. Human sacrifice is worse than horrific (aka "ritual killing" in Nigeria). Please google it and pray for Nigeria (and Africa) that human sacrifice and sorcery, prevalent EVERYWHERE would stop. I have not met a true Christian in Nigeria, neither have I heard the true Gospel there. Everyone though describes himself as "born again", yet the level of malice greed and envy is unprecedented. Please kindly pray that God would send His Gospel to this Dark land, and that human sacrifice and sorcery will be STOPPED, once and for all. Thank you.
B. McCausland (1/28/2018)
“ Confidence diminished ” How can one ask any to listen to part 2 of a sermon which comes entrenched in defective hermeneutics of part one? Surely, there is a list of valid concepts about free market and historical, or present wrongs stringed together that may make some partial sense, but the fact that they anchor from desfigured interpretations of biblical text, will not always contribute to valid conclusions. If the foundation is wrong, how can the following up be right?
BWS (1/28/2018)
“ Listen to PART 2, next sermon ” Don't miss listening to part 2 about slavery in the next sermon entitled, "Context Explains the Rule." Great practical insights there.
Most pastors and teachers use passages on slavery to teach us rules about employers and employees. This is incorrect since it is contrary to and different from the relationship in slavery. The pastor straightens that out.
B. McCausland (1/23/2018)
“ Valid hermeneutics needed ” In order to sustain that God ordained the institution of slavery as much as family and marriage, God at Creation ought to have created besides a female *help mate* for Adam, an owned realm of subordinates to work for him, but he did not. Man was given to subdue the earth, not each other. The 4th and 10th Commandments do not deal directly with slavery, but the issue is mentioned by means of wholesome application of the principle taught in those particular commands. The two different words used for servant, ebed in the OT, and doulos in the NT, are often used to mean either a bond person, or simply a servant. The difference between these two concepts is the contractual terms dictating the agreement, due to the different levels of contracts for hired labourers, slavery being the more inclusive personally. Slavery belongs to the labouring realm not to the moral setting of living, though it comes into it by its ethical practice. Truly, the work of salvation comes illustrated in Scriptures with the concept of the slave market purchase (redemption). However, this can not be used to assert that Christ, or the NT endorsed slavery. Rather in the light of 1 Cor.7 it seems the opposite: "Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather."
BWS (1/21/2018)
“ Bible reveals God's moral social order accurately ” The previous comment compels a response for the sake of others. Any impartial listener to the sermon will find that these objections are directly addressed:
1. It is totally accurate to say that God ordained the institution of slavery as much as family and marriage. Specifically the 4th and 10th Commandments the pastor shows endorses, legitimizes as good & moral and regulates slavery as much as the 5th and 7th Commandments do for family and marriage. If we disagree that the Ten Commandments defines God's moral laws and social order then we can only conclude that there is a heretical Liberal Christianity and not true Biblical Christianity asserted. (Such was the false Christianity, Deism of Jefferson & false prophet MLK who denied Jesus virgin birth & Resurrection also). Jesus said he came not to abolish the Law but to fulfill. So Slavery passes The Ten Commandments test!
2. Now the Ten Commandments were revealed and written for mankind because of the Fall. Slavery was most often the result of wars or indebtedness. But Poverty can be a result of persecution, such as in the New Testament, as much as of foolishness or sloth.
3. As the pastor says the abuse of an institution does not negate that Institution as legitimate.
4. Slaves is the term intended in the original langua
B. McCausland (1/20/2018)
“ Accuracy needed ” It might not be totally correct to state that slavery is a God-given institution as it were established by God himself. As poverty, slavery derives from the negative effects of the fall. Equality is a defective humanistic premise. God designs with individuality, purpose, meaning, diversity, and fulfilment, away from uniformitarianism. A person might find fulfilment in a slavery setting provided the God-provided limits/ guidelines for such predicament are in place, as in any other labour relationship to prevent abuse and for the good of society's decent function. However, the issue is that slavery has been practiced to unhuman, selfish and cruel lengths flaunting such guidelines, and this should be well distinguished from 'servitude'. Service is honourable in all men. The Son of Man came to serve, and we are all to serve one another in love: this is why all we do should be as unto the Lord, which is service. The biblical heritage of the West reflects this concept in the way we often speak as saying 'he served in office' for instance. However, to financially 'own' a person with unlimited movement and initiative restrictions, is to deny the instrinsic value of the image of God in that individual, and indirectly deprive the individual from obeying His command to subdue the earth.
BWS (1/20/2018)
“ TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE NOW ” The transcript for this excellent message is now available for download to PDF or to your Kindle device.
The pastor in this message is right, this really is a litmus test Passage, as with other passages on slavery, as to how faithful pastors and teachers are in honestly and plainly interpreting the scriptures. Are they PC or faithful to Gods Word? Any other conclusion by consequence denies the Holiness of God, the perfectness of Christ as Savior (i.e. Jesus approved slavery) and even the inspiration of scripture as being from God himself. The Bible is absolutely clear on the subject, and only "the fear of man brings a snare."
There was great public discussion and tumult regarding the subject in 2017 and this message stands in sharp contrast to the Liberal media's charges about the Southern states, the Founders and American history. Has Social order and morals become better or worse since abolition and the Civil War, from a Biblical perspective?
Thall (1/19/2018)
from USA
“ Needs Cared Stating ” I believe that any system under which the Lord institutes is good and perfect; however when left under man's governing will eventually become corrupt. Only the Lord can make a system perfect. I would tread carefully when dealing with such sensitive matters and the handling of God's word to state his word with great care so that no harm or offense is done to the glory of God.
Elder Thomas Ray Floyd (1/17/2018)
from Mendenhall, Mississippi
“ Great Sermon! ” It is refreshing to hear a preacher handle the word of God reverently and faithfully. We pray this message will receive a wide hearing and that people will submit to the truth.
BWS (1/7/2018)
“ Refutes Modern Christianity, Humanism, PC Orthodoxy on Slavery ” Best sermon on subject, without any hesitation proving slavery is a moral institution ordained by God as much as family & marriage. Proves by Bible hermeneutics that servants is actually Slaves; Refutes Jeffersonian, Democratic heresy that "God created all men equal"; underlines God's 10 Moral Laws are supreme, not Mans Humanistic laws; States when slavery abolition began so did moral degradation. Destroys common objections. THE IMPLICATIONS are many: That PC beliefs and liberal interpretation are within modern churches, most glaringly and ironic in Southern Baptist churches and Seminary; that the change of gov't and federal dominance since the Civil war has demanded an erroneous Equality that has brought confusion and continuing decline in social order (feminism, gay marriage, etc.), and is a heretical tyranny contrary to the Bible.
Bill and Toni Cunningham (12/10/2017)
from North Canton, Oh
“ Great Sermon! ” Thank you for your biblical stance on this topic when so many others in the Church have caved in to political correctness!
Derek Carlsen is a native Zimbabwean and was a resident in that country until he was called to be the pastor of the Church of Christian Liberty from April 2003 to September 2005. Following this, he became founding pastor of Covenant Reformed Church of Elk Grove in Elk Grove...
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