Yeah, I think that is an incredibly important insight and I just want to affirm what Russ just said. I just had the honor of preaching at the 100th anniversary of my home church as a teenager, and I realized that as I was there, many of us came from all over the country, it would be the last time before we'd see a lot of people. I think there were some elderly people just kind of living long enough to make it to that service where they get to see some people.

You know, here's what struck me: Here's what my church experience as a young person, how it contrasted with what a lot of young people have today: I wasn't just surrounded by young people. I mean I was looking at elderly people, who as middle-aged people I thought were elderly then, had made an impact in my life and then I think about what we do now and its just what Russ was saying.

I mean just think about this, you take a bunch of youth and you put them together, like that's really going to help. You look at a college men's guys accountability group and they get together. Oh my goodness! What they need is somebody to say: you guys need to get a job!

This is too self-referential, and the divorce group is excellent in that, and that's my great fear. Number one, I am not saying don't do it, I am just saying that's not what the church looks like. The church does not look like, to use set theory, a bunch of little sets that meet together for an hour as one big set. If that's the picture of the church we're in big trouble.