The United Nations has played a leading role in rewriting history as part of its anti-Israel agenda. A recent editorial in Christian media compared this to replacement theology and one rabbi agreed, noting that pro-Palestinian forces have taken this hated doctrine further than the Church ever had.
Brandon Shirkey wrote an opinion article in Charisma News titled “Is This Theology a Serious Threat to God’s People?” In the article, Shirkey compared the United Nations treatment of Israel to replacement theology.
“The United Nations has seemingly turned a blind eye to the truth of this conflict by absurdly defending the aggressor and condemning the victim,” Shirkey wrote.
Shirkey’s outrage is shared by many Christians who see religious implications in the UN’s harsh treatment of Israel in the political arena. Many Christian organizations reacted strongly to a vote last year by the United Nations...
John, you need to spend a little time looking at the verse you quoted, which is a figurehead verse on SA website, you will see it towards the top left of every page.
Romans 10:17 KJV (17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Have you ever seen unbelievers listening to the word of God, reading the word of God, or hearing the word of God being preached?
If you take the verse literally, you might think that all you have to do is give a sinner some verses from the Bible and they will believe it.
No?
The majority disbelieve and a small minority believe. Ask any gospel preacher. They will tell you the same.
Why is this?
Notice what the text says about the faith which saves: faith COMETH....
Does a spiritually dead sinner have the capacity to believe anything spiritual? Of course not. If he could, then he wasn't spiritually dead.
Does a spiritually dead sinner have any say in his second birth. No, of course not. Just as he had no say in his first birth, it is ridiculous to even imagine it. Regeneration MUST come first, and Jesus quickeneth whom he will.
BTW your texts Rev 3:20 and Rom 6:16 are not referring to sinners but Christians.
We are saved by Jesus, not ourselves, but it is our choice to open the door or not.
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. Revelation 3:20
John UK...
Faith is an act if obedience.
Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? Romans 6:16
You can obey your flesh or obey God. None of this I can't believe if I have the opportunity to nonesense. God wanted the Pharisees and Jerusalem to believe but they chose not and some people choose to place their trust in Jesus for salvation. Nobody will go to Hell because they didn't have an opportunity or ability to believe. You sound alittle fatalistic my friend!
John for JESUS wrote: John UK... The gospel enlightens and brings about conviction of sin. For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
John, you are not thinking.
Did you know that Alex Jones has 800,000 followers who hang on his every word? They hear what he has to say, and they believe it. And so they are believers.
Paul has a message, but when he preaches it, only some believe it. He describes this faith as "coming" to a sinner, and it "comes" by hearing the word of God. This is why some open-air preachers shout out gospel texts, thinking that will do the trick.
Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. It is not something man is capable of. Why? Because spiritually he is dead in trespasses and sins. What is the remedy for this? It is for God to take the initiative and quicken that dead soul.
"who were dead in trespasses and sins; not only dead in Adam, in whom they sinned, being their federal head and representative; and in a legal sense, the sentence of condemnation and death having passed upon them; but in a moral sense, through original sin, and their own actual transgressions: which death lies in a separation from God, Father, Son, and Spirit, such are without God, and are alienated from the life of God, and they are without Christ, who is the author and giver of life, and they are sensual, not having the Spirit, who is the spirit of life; and in a deformation of the image of God, such are dead as to their understandings, wills, and affections, with respect to spiritual things, and as to their capacity to do any thing that is spiritually good; and in a loss of original righteousness; and in a privation of the sense of sin and misery; and in a servitude to sin, Satan, and the world: hence it appears, that man must be in himself unacceptable to God, infectious and hurtful to his fellow creatures, and incapable of helping himself." JG
John, you need to grasp what "dead" means in this verse.
Ephesians 2:1 KJV (1) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins.
The gospel enlightens and brings about conviction of sin.
For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:13-14, 17
After hearing the gospel and believing is when one is sealed with the Holy Spirit.
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13
The "quickening" that you talk about only happens when a believer is placed in Christ.
even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, Ephesians 2:5-6
People put on Christ after they believe.
For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Galatians 3:26-27
Putting on Christ is what makes us son's because He is the Son.
John for JESUS wrote: John UK... Yes, like I said, baptism.
Is this the baptism that Jesus himself performs, where he baptises people with the Spirit?
So, let's review. You believe that the work of Jesus and the work of the Spirit (quickening, enlightening, bringing conviction of sin, and the sealing with the Spirit), these all happen simultaneously, over the course of what, a few seconds?
Have you ever seen that happen?
Do you know the scripture texts for all of the above?
Mind you, it won't help you any to get the order of events correct when you are not believing correctly concerning the cross-work of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the substitutionary purpose of Christ which effectively redeems the elect by his shed blood.
Faith isn't a work of salvation, but it is what we must do to be saved.
John UK...
I believe they happen simultaneously at baptism. At baptism a person is made alive and sealed by the Holy Spirit.
Putting on Christ?
For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. Galatians 3:27, 29
The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. Romans 13:12-14
John for JESUS wrote: First of all. I meant to say: I also believe God quickens sinners. So does this happen before they believe or after? Obviously AFTER! Now, how can people know spiritual things if they don't have the Spirit of Christ within them convicting them? The sinner can only know of Jesus Christ through the preaching of the gospel which they will receive! Then when they are filled with the Spirit they know the things of the Spirit. In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, Ephesians 1:13 Notice the order? Hear, believe, and sealed in the Spirit.
John, just so you know, the quickening of the Spirit and the sealing with the Spirit are two completely separate events. The quickening is the first event, the sealing is the last event, and there is plenty happening in between. You see that salvation is a work entirely of the Spirit, and anything that we do is actually being wrought in us by that Spirit. It is all of God, from start to finish, Jesus being the author and finisher of our faith.
I also believe God quickens sinners. So does this happen before they believe or after? Obviously AFTER!
Now, how can people know spiritual things if they don't have the Spirit of Christ within them convicting them? The sinner can only know of Jesus Christ through the preaching of the gospel which they will receive! Then when they are filled with the Spirit they know the things of the Spirit.
In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, Ephesians 1:13
Notice the order? Hear, believe, and sealed in the Spirit.
My sins have been forgiven in Christ, when I put on His righteousness which is not a righteousness of my own. Your convoluted philosophy has you righteous in and of yourself because Jesus paid a penalty for you, which is not true because you still sin!
J4, before I answer your last point, maybe you ought to explain what "putting on Christ's righteousness" has to do with the forgiveness of your sins? Thank you.
John for JESUS wrote: John UK... My second point was bizarre because it is the logical conclusion of your viewpoint! If dead people have no ability to believe because they are dead then they would have no ability to sin either because they are dead.
Ephesians 2:1, 5
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
only in the j4j world are people who dead to spiritual things not alive to carnal fleshly things
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Rom 6:19-21 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
John for JESUS wrote: John UK... My second point was bizarre because it is the logical conclusion of your viewpoint! If dead people have no ability to believe because they are dead then they would have no ability to sin either because they are dead. However, their guilt shows their ability to believe because they don't.
My second point was bizarre because it is the logical conclusion of your viewpoint! If dead people have no ability to believe because they are dead then they would have no ability to sin either because they are dead. However, their guilt shows their ability to believe because they don't.
The third point was bizarre to you because you think you are now righteous because of your innocents before God, but you are not righteous.
I also believe God quickens sinners. So does this happen before they believe or after? Obviously before!
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 2 Corinthians 5:17
John for JESUS wrote: John UK... You mention people who are dead. If you take your incorrect view of death to it's full conclusion, dead people can't sin against God either. I've yet to see dead people put in prison.
John, this point is bizarre, as is your third point.
Notice here what God says dead sinners can do:-
Ephesians 2:1-3 KJV (1) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; (2) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: (3) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Now note the word "all" in verse 3. All unbelievers are in this condition. They are slaves of sin, slaves of Satan, dead in trespasses and sins, under the wrath of God, walking in the lusts of the flesh, fulfilling their desire for knowledge.
The comment that seemed to offend your view was that God saves those who believe. God does not save unbelievers! Sinners yes, unbelievers no.
You mention people who are dead. If you take your incorrect view of death to it's full conclusion, dead people can't sin against God either. I've yet to see dead people put in prison.
My sins have been forgiven in Christ, when I put on His righteousness which is not a righteousness of my own. Your convoluted philosophy has you righteous in and of yourself because Jesus paid a penalty for you, which is not true because you still sin!
John for JESUS wrote: John UK... God says He saves believers! "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
John, God says he saves the ungodly!
Romans 5:6 KJV (6) For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
God says that he saves his enemies!
Romans 5:10 KJV (10) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
God says that he saves those to whom the power of God comes in the preaching of the cross!
1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV (18) For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Now John, the preaching of the cross is to you foolishness, and so you are perishing in your sins. This is happening because you are not willing to transfer all your sins to your substitute, Jesus Christ. You do not believe he bore your sins in his own body on the tree.
Therefore you are not a believer but a pseudo-Christian. The reason you cannot see that, is because you are dead in sin, and you will likely remain like that until you physically die.
Dr. Alan Cairns | 5/18/2009
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