Salon recently decided to remove a post from their website which claimed that the Bible cannot have come from God because it was so “badly written.” The post originally appeared at the website of psychologist and writer Valerie Tarico, where it can still be found.
The author began her post by stating that millions of evangelicals hold a dictation theory of inspiration and says that they believe each phrase to be so perfect that it needs linguistic analysis to understand its meaning. Then she remarks, “If that were the case, one would have to conclude that God is a terrible writer. Many passages in the Bible would get kicked back by any competent editor or writing professor, kicked back with a lot of red ink. Mixed messages, repetition, bad fact checking, awkward constructions, inconsistent voice, weak character development, boring tangents, contradictions, passages where nobody can tell what the...
Many claim that the KJV uses archaic language. Is this objection justified? Think about this for a moment... every department of human learning uses language peculiar to that particular field. Biology, botany, geology, physics, chemistry, mathematics, music, medicine (illus. of Physiotherapy), law etc. all use strange sounding words, phrases & expressions which a novice would call archaic & hard to understand! The English of the KJV is not the English of the early 17th Century. To be exact, it is not the type of English that was ever spoken anywhere. It is Biblical English, which was not used on ordinary occasions even by the translators who produced the KJV. As H Wheeler Robinson (1940) pointed out, one need only compare the preface written by the translators with the text of their translation to feel the difference in style. And the observations of W A Irwin (1952) are to the same support. The KJV, he reminds us, owes its merit, not to 17th Century English – which was very different – but to its faithful translation of the original. Its style is that of the Hebrew and of the NT Greek. Even in their use of thee and thou the translators were not following 17th Century English usage but Biblical usage, & singular /plural differentiaton seen only in AV's English.
Dr. John Weldon wrote: Generally speaking, KJV Only writers have no interest in being fair or impartial in their handling of the manuscript and textual data of Scripture. They also have little desire to accurately or honestly reflect the opinions of those with whom they disagree. Indeed, there is no effort made to appreciate the strengths of the positions of anyone who would speak a word against the inerrancy of the KJV.
The problem this raises is that sincere Christians who read KJV Only materials do not realize that proponents’ citation of historical facts is always skewed. However, the most consistent problem with KJV Only authors is their use of double standards. For example, the very arguments that would completely disprove the inspiration and inerrancy of the KJV itself are used with regularity against modern versions. Even though this does not cause KJVO promoters the slightest difficulty, can anyone maintain such an approach is either intellectually credible or fair to other Christians?…
excerpt from, [URL=https://www.jashow.org/articles/uncategorized/is-the-king-james-version-of-the-bible-the-only-bible-christians-should-trust-and-readpart-3]]]Why KJVO Claims and Arguments Cannot Be Trusted[/URL]
Dr. Tim wrote: John UK quoted, ""The quake at Cwmllynfell was of 4.4 magnitude..." Say what you will about Americans, there are no more generous people on earth when it comes to disaster relief. In the case of Wales, we are currently loading up a container ship with vowels for insertion in place names. Hang in there, John; help is on the way.
It is such a kind gesture, Dr Tim. But really there is no need. We have plenty of vowels in the Welsh, only we call some of them consonants. So in the above example, "w" is a vowel actually, "ll" contains both consonants and vowels, "yn" contains a consonant and a vowel, and so on. You'd have to be here to experience it, really.
Well, of course...what else would it stand for? Did you think I was insulting you all of this time? Did you think it stood for hideous, incoherent, creepy, and kreepy?
John UK wrote: It is no wonder there are some people in this world who are bashing Bibles, especially the King James Bible. [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne6fZwJ7Y0c]]]The Real Bible Version Issue Exposed[/URL] and [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtI_mVOXbQ]]]New World Order Bible Versions[/URL]
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Jer36:20And they went in to the king into the court, but they laid up the roll in the chamber of Elishama the scribe, and told all the words in the ears of the king. 21So the king sent Jehudi to fetch the roll: and he took it out of Elishama the scribe's chamber. And Jehudi read it in the ears of the king, and in the ears of all the princes which stood beside the king. 22Now the king sat in the winterhouse in the ninth month: and there was a fire on the hearth burning before him. 23And it came to pass, that when Jehudi had read three or four leaves, he cut it with the penknife, and cast it into the fire that was on the hearth, until all the roll was consumed in the fire that was on the hearth. 24Yet they were not afraid, nor rent their garments, neither the king, nor any of his servants that heard all these words. "added"32
John UK quoted, ""The quake at Cwmllynfell was of 4.4 magnitude..." Say what you will about Americans, there are no more generous people on earth when it comes to disaster relief. In the case of Wales, we are currently loading up a container ship with vowels for insertion in place names. Hang in there, John; help is on the way.
godly base their confidence on two truths: 1) “all Scripture is given by inspiration of God” (2 Tim 3:16); and 2) an elementary rule of Scripture is that God has deliberately included seeming contradictions in His Word to “snare” the proud. He has “hidden” things from the “wise and prudent” and “revealed them to babes” (Luke 10:21), purposely choosing foolish things to confound the wise (1 Cor1:27). If an ungodly man refuses to humble himself and obey the gospel, and instead desires to build a case against the Bible, God gives him enough material to build his own gallows. .. God has turned the tables on proud, arro- gant, self-righteous man. When he proudly stands outside of the kingdom of God, and seeks to justify his sinfulness through evidence he thinks discredits the Bible, he doesn’t real- ize that God has simply lowered the door of life, so that only those who are prepared to exercise faith, and bow in humility may enter. It is interesting to note that the seeming contradictions in the four Gospels attest to the fact that there was no corroboration between the writers. Contradiction? Ez12:13vs Jer 32:4? Jer 39:6&7 laughs at blind fools who see "contradiction" thru blinded eyes.
John Yurich USA wrote: Mobsters don't attend an Evangelical Protestant Church. I stated previously that I would never under any circumstances attend any Evangelical Protestant Church faithfully. But I was prompted by the Holy Spirit(who I received when I embraced Jesus as Lord and Savior) to start attending a Baptist Church.
Mobsters?! You in a mob now? Wow! From homeless to a mob...things are looking up for you Little John!
Watcher wrote: Oh John...you are so blind, it's sad. How many rotten, sinful monsters go to church on a weekly basis? Do you honestly think that just because you decided somewhere along the line to start attending a church that approved of your lifestyle and decisions, that that proves your saved? Or is it because Pastor Steve and the elders decided to approve you as saved? Or was it because your Catholic priest has approved of you? Or is it because those at the casino like you? Or is it because you have a dirty mirror in your room and you are unable to see your true reflection? You are living a lie, John. You are either toying with everyone and you are someone entirely different than the person you portray online, or you are a diluted sinner, completely deceived into believing you are better than you are.
Mobsters don't attend an Evangelical Protestant Church. I stated previously that I would never under any circumstances attend any Evangelical Protestant Church faithfully. But I was prompted by the Holy Spirit(who I received when I embraced Jesus as Lord and Savior) to start attending a Baptist Church.
Oh John...you are so blind, it's sad. How many rotten, sinful monsters go to church on a weekly basis? Do you honestly think that just because you decided somewhere along the line to start attending a church that approved of your lifestyle and decisions, that that proves your saved? Or is it because Pastor Steve and the elders decided to approve you as saved? Or was it because your Catholic priest has approved of you? Or is it because those at the casino like you? Or is it because you have a dirty mirror in your room and you are unable to see your true reflection? You are living a lie, John. You are either toying with everyone and you are someone entirely different than the person you portray online, or you are a diluted sinner, completely deceived into believing you are better than you are.
Watcher wrote: If you were saved you would have better discernment. Your fruit bears you out and you have been called out more than once without a shred of conviction on your part. You are perfect and holy in your own eyes, without need of correction. If you were open to correction, you would take the loving words of these people here on SA to heart, and go to God with them. Not you though...I guess robots are incapable of being corrected.
If I previously stated that I would never attend any Evangelical Protestant Church faithfully every Sunday. So the fact that I heeded the prompting of the Holy Spirit to start attending that Baptist Church faithfully every Sunday is proof that I am saved.
John Yurich USA wrote: Just who do you think you are any way to doubt that I am saved? If I was not saved and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit then I would never had started to attend a Baptist Church faithfully every Sunday(which I previously stated I would never do).
If you were saved you would have better discernment. Your fruit bears you out and you have been called out more than once without a shred of conviction on your part. You are perfect and holy in your own eyes, without need of correction. If you were open to correction, you would take the loving words of these people here on SA to heart, and go to God with them.
Not you though...I guess robots are incapable of being corrected.
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