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FRIDAY, AUG 7, 2015  |  56 comments
Philadelphia to Close 25 Miles of Highway to Welcome Pope Francis
Philadelphia will close 25 miles of highway in preparation for the visit of Pope Francis in September.

According to the Associated Press, on Sept. 26 Pope Francis will be participating in the concluding ceremony of the World Meeting of Families. He is also expected to attend an outdoor Sunday mass the following day.

More than 1 million people are expected at each event.

"Private vehicles will really not be a viable option," Mayor Michael Nutter said at a news conference.


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News Item8/18/15 2:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
2 Thes. 2: 4 he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God.

JFB Commentary wrote:
above all that is called God— (1 Corinthians 8:5). The Pope (for instance, Clement VI) has even commanded the angels to admit into Paradise, without the alleged pains of purgatory, certain souls. But still this is only a foreshadowing of the Antichrist, who will not, as the Pope, act in God's name, but against God.
or that is worshipped—Rome here again gives a presage of Antichrist. The Greek is Sebasma; and Sebastus is the Greek for Augustus, who was worshipped as the secular ruler and divine vicegerent. The papacy has risen on the overthrow of Cæsar's power. Antichrist shall exalt himself above every object of worship, whether on earth as the Cæsar, or in heaven as God. The various prefigurations of Antichrist, Mohammed, Rome, Napoleon, and modern infidel secularism, contain only some, not all, his characteristics. It is the union of all in some one person that shall form the full Antichrist, as the union in one Person, Jesus, of all the types and prophecies constituted the full Christ [OLSHAUSEN].
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News Item8/18/15 11:10 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No Wayne [URL=http://www.catholic.com/tracts/bible-translations-guide]]]Bible Translations Guide -- Catholic Answers[/URL] a sensible look at KJVOnlyism but anyway.

Geneva Bible Commentary wrote:
Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O {h} Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (h) You who thought yourself most glorious and as it were placed in the heaven for the morning star that goes before the sun, is called Lucifer, to whom Nebuchadnezzar is compared.
The Amp Bible explains that the best. q v, [URL=https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Isaiah%2014:12]]]Isaiah 14:12 (most English versions)[/URL]

I would suggest to moderator alpha that all the commentary that doesn't have something to do with the main article be removed. this is thread should have little to do web Bible versions - - probably none in fact.

[URL=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/12/life-size-cardboard-cutouts-pope-francis-pop-up-across-philadelphia-ahead-his/]]]Life-size cardboard cutouts of Pope Francis pop up..[/URL]

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News Item8/18/15 9:42 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
....coming to advance the 2030 Agenda for global governance.... the next step in agenda 21.
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News Item8/18/15 7:50 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Paul S wrote:
That's funny because the Bible says otherwise.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
There is no light from Satan. The "angel of light" spoken of is illusion, lies. Appearance, not reality.
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News Item8/18/15 6:23 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Wayne wrote:
I trust you mean 'Catholic' in the real sense of Church Universal (excluding therefore the cult of Rome) as of course the KJV was indeed the only Protestant Bible (English) for centuries as you and Doug well know.
... SermonAudio is also part of the same seeing though it is based on the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster and America and strongly Traditional Text
Comment appreciated and needed. Untruths should be challenged.
Thank you
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News Item8/18/15 5:39 AM
Wayne | Northumberland  Find all comments by Wayne
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Because the KJV is a Catholic Bible, q
I trust you mean 'Catholic' in the real sense of Church Universal (excluding therefore the cult of Rome) as of course the KJV was indeed the only Protestant Bible (English) for centuries as you and Doug well know.

Therefore the RC church is the truth if millions have been converted through er,um, ....this RC bible filled with false doctrine? SermonAudio is also part of the same seeing though it is based on the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster and America and strongly Traditional Text?

Next you'll be saying it is a JW Bible because they once used it (when the whole of Christendom still used the same, hence even the cults). Wonder why they abandoned the KJV

I'll try and help you...have a look at my sermon comment here where JW's are convicted through a scripture not their NWT or in your own bible:

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=4714516552

Amazing grace, eh...Mr Lincoln? Or did God err again with another trophy of GRACE through this RC bible?

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News Item8/18/15 2:21 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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News Item8/17/15 10:17 PM
Paul S | NZ  Find all comments by Paul S
Mike wrote:
Fascinating that some can believe Satan would have as a name, "light-bearer," since he bears no light.
That's funny because the Bible says otherwise.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
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News Item8/12/15 9:00 AM
Elliean  Contact via emailFind all comments by Elliean
Nice article!
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News Item8/10/15 6:08 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
B. McCausland wrote:
Mike:
Some observations in case it helps.
Isa 14:12 says "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"
Lucifer here is a Latin rendering of the Hebrew 'halal' which conveys brightness/shining. 'Lux' is light in Latin.
Perhaps it should be observed the difference between 'son of the morning' and Christ's title given in Rev 22:16 which literally is the 'morning star'. Star and son are two different terms.
Lucifer, linked in classical mythology with the morning star (i.e., the planet Venus at dawn in Greek mythology)
"The term translated "Lucifer" does NOT at all mean "morning star" or "star of the morning." That would be two totally different Hebrew words. The word means "light-bearer." In Greek it's "heosphoros," "light-bearer." In Latin it's translated "Lucifer," light-bearer. Whether you say "heylel," "heosphoros" or "lucifer," the meaning is the same: "light-bearer." http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/lucifer.asp
Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:14
Fascinating that some can believe Satan would have as a name, "light-bearer," since he bears no light.
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News Item8/10/15 4:49 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Mike wrote:
So how did this Latin word get into the KJV, anyway?
Mike:
Some observations in case it helps.
Isa 14:12 says "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

Lucifer here is a Latin rendering of the Hebrew 'halal' which conveys brightness/shining. 'Lux' is light in Latin.

Perhaps it should be observed the difference between 'son of the morning' and Christ's title given in Rev 22:16 which literally is the 'morning star'. Star and son are two different terms.

Lucifer, linked in classical mythology with the morning star (i.e., the planet Venus at dawn in Greek mythology)

"The term translated "Lucifer" does NOT at all mean "morning star" or "star of the morning." That would be two totally different Hebrew words. The word means "light-bearer." In Greek it's "heosphoros," "light-bearer." In Latin it's translated "Lucifer," light-bearer. Whether you say "heylel," "heosphoros" or "lucifer," the meaning is the same: "light-bearer." http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/lucifer.asp

Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:14

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News Item8/10/15 4:10 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
Mike wrote:
So how did this Latin word get into the KJV, anyway?
Depends who you ask. Some will say providence, others the influence St Jeromes work had on all later translations
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News Item8/10/15 3:49 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
s c wrote:
You,Steve R,have danced around the issue that the RC church calls Christ "Lucifer" which is interesting that you would want to support that in this context since the RC church will try to pass the buck as to the name of their shared telescope in regards to "Lucifer". The RC church denies being responsible for naming the telescope "Lucifer",which would clearly be to their shame, but when they call Christ "Lucifer" in their most high, hellish mass of the year then it's because they are calling Him (Lucifer)the morning star.
Christ is the morning star. The NIV got it wrong and so did the RC church. Lucifer is not the morning star.
So how did this Latin word get into the KJV, anyway?
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News Item8/10/15 2:44 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
So...the RC church embraces "Lucifer" if it's in the mess,I mean mass, but then does a 180 degrees and is embarrassed by "Lucifer" when it's associated with their telescope?
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News Item8/10/15 11:26 AM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
s c wrote:
You,Steve R,have danced around the issue that the RC church calls Christ "Lucifer" which is interesting that you would want to support that in this context since the RC church will try to pass the buck as to the name of their shared telescope in regards to "Lucifer". The RC church denies being responsible for naming the telescope "Lucifer",which would clearly be to their shame, but when they call Christ "Lucifer" in their most high, hellish mass of the year then it's because they are calling Him (Lucifer)the morning star.
Christ is the morning star. The NIV got it wrong and so did the RC church. Lucifer is not the morning star.
I agree the NIV got in wrong. Not that it was the wrong rendering of the Latin word relying on the Vulgate, but rather the common use of that word in English which is very different from what a Latin expert could understand it as in context. It silliness to accuse the RCC of devilishness by those completely naĂŻve of the Latin

We have a similar issue of confusion when an Arab Christian uses the term Allah

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News Item8/10/15 11:06 AM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
You,Steve R,have danced around the issue that the RC church calls Christ "Lucifer" which is interesting that you would want to support that in this context since the RC church will try to pass the buck as to the name of their shared telescope in regards to "Lucifer". The RC church denies being responsible for naming the telescope "Lucifer",which would clearly be to their shame, but when they call Christ "Lucifer" in their most high, hellish mass of the year then it's because they are calling Him (Lucifer)the morning star.
Christ is the morning star. The NIV got it wrong and so did the RC church. Lucifer is not the morning star.
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News Item8/9/15 8:51 PM
Dave | oz  Find all comments by Dave
C'mon steveR.
Any that murdered during the reformation disgusts me,
As do the millions of murdered by Popes and Catholicism, and the millions of Jews by Hitler.
Mate can you not see how apostate rc is,and really truth be said most denominations don't preach the gospel.now days
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News Item8/9/15 8:13 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
SteveR wrote:
Your pernicious parading of my people that suffered martyrdom during the Reformation for vain justification of your internet silliness is unbecoming
Please, do not attempt to perpetuate the re-writing of history on which the RCC is fixed. Sources of the time provide evidence of the facts stated.

May I recommend you to inform yourself about the matter, or consider leaving this forum if you feel your people is misrepresented. Love of truth, not silliness, or guile, is part of the core values and ethos of the Protestant Reformation to which this Forum adheres.

Any one not serious about this central point is wasting time and space here. You voice your hatred, however, hatred destroys the hater first of all. The intend of causing damage is obvious. Bona fide is in place, but abuse is the betrayal of such.

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News Item8/9/15 7:59 PM
SteveR | Mt Zion  Find all comments by SteveR
s c wrote:
Flammas eius Lúcifer matutínus invéniat: ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus, qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit, et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum.
English:
Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind, I say: Oh Lucifer, who will never be defeated,
The Christ, the Son of yours, which came back from the dead, and shed his peaceful light to the human race, and he liveth, and reigneth, in the ages of the ages.
I haven't looked at the youtube video but am aware of an "easter" RC ritual by which the faux priest honors Lucifer.
This discussion belongs in the KJV vs NIV debate or better a rudimentary understanding of Latin

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

KJV
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

NIV

Isaiah 14:12 New International Version

How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

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News Item8/9/15 7:49 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
SteveR wrote:
... evil hypocrite accuses others of what his spiritual brethren did to innocent Catholics.
Same evil, different label.
Some called themselves Catholic others called themselves Protestant
Their stepchildren infect this board daily
Please, see to this http://www.otteryreformed.freeola.net/rc-prot.htm

Better say that 'some were Catholics by persuation, belief and adherence, and others were Protestants by choice of the articles of faith personally embraced'. The matter is not about names. The essence of what they were or were not, goes down to actual spiritual perception or lack of it.

Though trying to portray yourself in an attitude of fairness and neutrality, your vicious/virulent language betrays you. Your bias borders the fanatism of the Inquisition.

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