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MONDAY, JUN 29, 2015  |  32 comments  |  1 commentary
Weekend Reads: Go to church … and what to do when you get there
I learned a great deal from Josh Moody’s How Church Can Change Your Life: Answers to the Ten Most Common Questions about Church (Christian Focus, 2015). That’s because Moody doesn’t ask “how,” but tells “why.” Why should you go to church? Ultimately, the answer is that you can meet Jesus there. Church is not a continuation of Jesus or a substitute for Jesus. It is a way—the God-ordained way—of getting to know Jesus.

Moody’s key insight is that preaching is the living voice of Christ speaking in His church: “Biblical preaching is important because it is Jesus’ way to meet with his people and show us his glory, his beauty, his love, and help us to be captivated by who he is.” So when you listen to a sermon, you are not comparing this sermon to other sermons, or to what you would say about the passage if you had the chance. You listen to preaching because it is what Jesus has to say to you at a ...


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News Item7/17/15 8:05 AM
Get Real | Wisconsin  Find all comments by Get Real
i am glad this was reposted in news in focus because i was able to see Jim's post
God Bless you Jim, thanks for the link, this checklist is exactically like the list in my head that i use to search for a home church
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News Item7/2/15 9:58 AM
Dolores  Find all comments by Dolores
Hugh from scotland, yes it is amazing and humbling to watch the prayers that had been prayed over the years finally come to fruit. The most amazing of all was how he felt the change himself...his comment that he wished he had done this years ago, said it all to me. Yes, Amazing Grace.
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News Item7/1/15 9:07 PM
hugh | scotland  Contact via emailFind all comments by hugh
Dolores, thank you so much sister for being so candid, and for sharing your story .Tis a wonderful thing to lead another to the Master particularly in their later years, or even on their death bed....
Having witnessing my friend whom fought hard rejecting the Master most of his life to finally sucumb to Christs love, and be reborn was most humbling.
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News Item6/30/15 2:48 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Get Real, do you use this policy in looking for a church? [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/GOODCHURCH.HTM]]]What to Look for in a Church[/URL]. Some churches just go bad, e.g., [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/print/articles/A256]]]http://www.gty.org/resources/print/articles/A256 (Should Fallen Pastors Be Restored?)[/URL] If a pastor who commits this act or other unseemly acts gets restored, then you also know it is not a church that is working biblically.

Good luck on your church hunt.

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News Item6/30/15 8:55 AM
Dolores  Find all comments by Dolores
Get Real, so sorry you can't find a good Bible preaching church and I can understand that. I can see why you get something from here as well. As a teenagers, in my years of being out of church, I just was so glad to be back with God in my early 20's I even got rebaptized. I just can't help but keep going, I need it because of my own needs to be with fellow christians. Not saying, you have to go to church to be saved or anything like that. My mother was unable to drive and dad was not attending church and she stayed home and cooked for my sister and her family that was attending church. Later dad( still unsaved ) started attending, even joined the church and got babtized because the pastor would visit him regulary. There was no change, no fruit. My mother stsyed close to God, always and was a witness to me. Thanks so much for your prayers and penned for yours, also. I feel blessed to be a part of the family of true, faithful Christians on SA as well. Dad did get saved a few months before he died at age 85. Praise the Lord.
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News Item6/29/15 10:10 PM
Get Real | Wisconsin  Find all comments by Get Real
Dolores I often think of you and wonder how you are doing, you are in my prayers

i can not find a church to attend that preaches the pure Word, i am used to the solitude, and think of the regulars here as my church

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News Item6/29/15 8:05 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
Dolores wrote:
I for one have not attended in a few months
praying for your dear family tonight.
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News Item6/29/15 6:36 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Headsup wrote:
Johnuk
Where did I state I thought delores' comment was off topic?! You sure are a divisive fellow aren't you? You don't like correction either it seems. If any unbeliever stumbled on to these boards they would see some who profess Christ being argumentative and divisive... How sad and shameful. Learn not to add to or take from others comments. Good day
But, we should always understand the below thought.

Almost by definition, Christians will learn and grow in their theology and their understanding of scripture. To say otherwise is simply foolishness and not according to scripture. [1] And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in Christ. [2] I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are ye able. [3] For ye are yet carnal: for whereas [there is] among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? (1Co 3:1-3 KJV)

However, here is an important caveat to my learning and growing thoughts. Truth that is not understood is often rejected by genuine born again believers, while truth that is understood can never be rejected by genuine born again believers.

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News Item6/29/15 4:46 PM
Dolores  Find all comments by Dolores
Thanks for your help John Uk because it helps to read it from the Bible. Paul and Jesus at times quoted scripture from the prophets and saints of old and since God is the same yesterday, today and forever then His word applies to where we are now. Thank you for the encouragement. I like to share what God has blessed me with.
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News Item6/29/15 4:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dolores wrote:
I for one have not attended in a few months because of my husband's weakness and sickness. I live stream it from home and am thankful for that but I rather enjoy being a part of the service. Yesterday, pastor gave scriptures to keep us encouraged in the dark hour we are now living in. One being; If my people who are called by my name would repent and turn from their wicked ways and pray, then I will come and heal their land. (From memory so if anyone knows where this verse is located, then your help is appreciared). Then the church was asked to get on their knees if able and pray for our nation and world situation. It starts with us as His people to forsake our own sins first then pray for the nations sins. What good is salt if it has lost it's savory.
I'm sorry to hear of your husband's illness, Dolores.

And I thank you for sharing with us some of your pastor's sermon, which I think is most relevant to our own day and age, as it shows the great mercy of God given when his people get back to their full commitment and repentance. I especially liked the pastor's call for the congregation to go on their knees before God and pray for the nation and the world situation. That's rare, sister.

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News Item6/29/15 3:46 PM
Headsup  Find all comments by Headsup
Johnuk

Where did I state I thought delores' comment was off topic?! You sure are a divisive fellow aren't you? You don't like correction either it seems. If any unbeliever stumbled on to these boards they would see some who profess Christ being argumentative and divisive... How sad and shameful. Learn not to add to or take from others comments. Good day

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News Item6/29/15 3:29 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
1517 wrote:
Michael,
Resting on assurances is not a vice but indicative of faith. But, I do understand your point. There have been incidents or an air with some as coming across as the "frozen chosen" or adhering to the idea of what Alistair Begg described as the "Us four, no more, shut the door" crowd.
I guess my prickly Reformed ears perk up when I see blanket statements. Thanks for the clarification.
I like Alistair Begg. I would not include him among those whose spiritual blood has hardened into a concrete of doing nothing
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News Item6/29/15 3:23 PM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Michael,
Resting on assurances is not a vice but indicative of faith. But, I do understand your point. There have been incidents or an air with some as coming across as the "frozen chosen" or adhering to the idea of what Alistair Begg described as the "Us four, no more, shut the door" crowd.
I guess my prickly Reformed ears perk up when I see blanket statements. Thanks for the clarification.
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News Item6/29/15 3:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Actually SA's blurb was good enough, though I can add, [URL=http://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Should_I_Become_an_Active_Member_of_a_Church#Scriptural_Support_for_Membership]]]http://www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Should_I_Become_an_Active_Member_of_a_Church#Scriptural_Support_for_Membership (Why Should I Become an Active Member of a Church)[/URL] and there are Biblical verses that support the idea.

Hebrews 10
23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful;
24 and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds,
25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more, as you see the day drawing near.
26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain terrifying expectation of judgment, and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

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News Item6/29/15 3:10 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
1517 wrote:
Michael,
Everything is
1517
From long years of seeking God, reading His word, having modern day Calvinist inform me of their thinking I have come to the humble observation there is a "deadness" in modern day Calvinism, as opposed to a faith that is alive in the Sovereignty of God.

Maybe you can understand. I don not just perfunctorily pray because it a required religious performance and ritual to observe. Instead I look at God's calling and choosing me, placing me in the time and place He has for His own purpose, and in this being humbled by His promises and instructions of things to pray for and about, with a real assurance in the faith He Himself has given me through His word and the work of His Spirit, His hearing and answering are part of all He desires and has predestined to be.

If anyone wants to know the Almight Sovereign Power of the LIVING GOD to do the Impossible (with men), to fulfill and make good His Promises, you must pray in faith that He is There and that He is a Rewarder of those who diligently seek Him, NOT sitting around on their imagined systematic assurances.

I think it is safe to say some old timey Baptists, Calvinists and Others knew something of this the modern day church doesn't

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News Item6/29/15 2:54 PM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Michael,
Everything is predetermined. How else do you explain Heaven, Hell, Revelations, prophecy, and ALL of existence? Calvinists pray because it is commanded and is part of the predetermined will of God to use the prayers of the saints,as well as their obedient actions and life for the advancement of the kingdom.
Your broad brushing Calvinists with lazy judgments doesn't reflect well your profession.
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News Item6/29/15 2:49 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Headsup wrote:
Perhaps you should have specified in your comment you switched from addressing me to addressing Delores. You cause confusion, then you accuse me of being some form of Calvinism? My apologies for not understanding your post
Well if you thought Dolores question was off topic, why enter in to the debate at all? It's you that's off topic now. But hey, I don't mind that. Don't forget, "I'm not a number, I'm a free man."
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News Item6/29/15 2:44 PM
Headsup  Find all comments by Headsup
Perhaps you should have specified in your comment you switched from addressing me to addressing Delores. You cause confusion, then you accuse me of being some form of Calvinism? My apologies for not understanding your post
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News Item6/29/15 2:27 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
headsup wrote:
johnuk
what does your scenario have to do with the topic at hand? I am not taking the bait to go down some jackrabbit trail with you.
If you believe 2 Chronicles is for modern day America, then prove such from Scripture. Please stay with the topic at hand and do not attempt to waste time by chasing rabbits. Do remember, we will be held accountable for how we spend our time, and for every word we utter/type.
Hey, do you mind, oh thou of the self-righteous mindset. I answered a question put by Dolores, if you were paying attention. I don't see any rabbit there. But then, you probably see rabbits wherever you go. Not being nasty, just telling it like it is.

Michael Hranek wrote:
How about obey God and weep over the sin of our country and its lukewarm and sleeping churches and pray!
If headsup is a neo-Calvinist, he won't know what it means to weep in prayer for the state of the land. They are taught that everything is predestinated and so they praise God for everything.

Maybe they ought to read some Praying Hyde, or relive George Whitefield preaching with tears out in the fields.

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News Item6/29/15 2:14 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
headsup wrote:
If you believe 2 Chronicles is for modern day America, then prove such from Scripture.
Headsup

2 Tim 3:16,17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Isn't that good enough for you?

Hint: For the child of God who listens to the voice of the Good Shepherd, believes and acts upon what He, Almighty God Himself says to us, it is wisdom, not some magical figuring everything out.

Hint: For the child of God it is entirely obvious that the wrath of God abides on any nation that has held (suppressed) the truth in unrighteousness, that has turned the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and served the creature, rather than the Creator

So what ought the born again child of God do? I know, I know play church until the rapture comes? That's not it? Self-righteousnly hypocritically sigh and say I guess they're just not the elect and nothing my prayers and labors will do because everything is all predestinated?

How about obey God and weep over the sin of our country and its lukewarm and sleeping churches and pray!

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