Lawsuit alleges 'honor killings' permitted by Michigan Shariah
A lawsuit that challenges the official cooperation by the city of Dearborn, Mich., which has one of the largest populations of Muslims in the U.S., with Islamic interests makes a stunning allegation: that under the recognized "Shariah" law in the city, there have been "honor killing" murders that have been "covered up."
The lawsuit was brought by the Thomas More Law Center on behalf of four Christians whose speech and other civil rights were restricted by official city action at several recent city-sponsored Arab Fest events.
The lawsuit on behalf of Acts 17 Apologetics, Nebeel Qureshi, David Wood, Paul Rezkalla, Negeen Mayel and Joshua Hogg names as defendants the city of Dearborn, Mayor John. B. O'Reilly, Police Chief Ronald Haddad and a long list of police officers in addition to American Arab Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Fay Beydoun and Norma Haidous, the special events coordinator...
More on Pakistani so-called honor killings. [URL=http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-17/brother-of-murdered-pakistan-social-media-star-arrested/7636446]]] Qandeel Baloch: Brother of murdered Pakistani social media star arrested [/URL]. He will probably get away with it.
[URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/roark/honor_killings.html]]]Is there honor in honor killings?[/URL]
[URL=http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm]]]Muhammad[/URL]anism, ain't it wonderful? [URL=http://krvn.com/abc_world/pakistani-social-media-star-killed-by-brother-in-honor-killing-abcid35735325/]]] Pakistani media star killed by brother in "honor killing"[/URL].
Jim Lincoln wrote: Another case of an "honor" killing, though not in this country. [URL=http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/24490-dubai-dad-stops-lifeguards-from-saving-daughter/#.Vcog5GQ1gzF]]] Dubai dad stops lifeguards from saving daughter [/URL] :mad [URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/roark/honor_killings.html]]]Is there honor in honor killings?[/URL]
Related to the above, a year later, [URL=http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/04/29/11461385-dueling-in-dearborn-over-murder-of-a-20-year-old-woman]]]Dueling in Dearborn over murder of a 20-year-old woman[/URL].
Well something honest happened in that city, recently, anyway. [URL=http://www.jpost.com/landedpages/printarticle.aspx?id=430355]]]Christian evangelists win Michigan speech case over Arab festival[/URL]
Another case of an "honor" killing, though not in this country. [URL=http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/24490-dubai-dad-stops-lifeguards-from-saving-daughter/#.Vcog5GQ1gzF]]] Dubai dad stops lifeguards from saving daughter [/URL]
[URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/roark/honor_killings.html]]]Is there honor in honor killings?[/URL]
neil wrote: ...Canon Law was relevant here...Too bad ( I wasn't ) there with them.
As I Said BEFORE: I NEVER Said That You, "neil" "Implied" That "Canon Law" Was "relevant here" !
I Deliberately Mentioned "Canon Law" To Make The Point Of Exposing The Goals Of "Thomas More"; Which Is Total Censorship & Elimination Of The 1st Ammendment Of The U.S. Constitution--As This Sermonaudio Website's Actions Goes "Hand-In-Glove" With "Thomas More": And Their Goal Of Total Suppression Of Dissent & Total Suppression Of Publishing The Truth, The Whole Truth & Nothing But The Truth !
WASHINGTON--The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that a grieving father's pain over mocking protests at his Marine son's funeral must yield to First Amendment protections for free speech. All but one justice sided with a fundamentalist cvhurch that has stirred outrage with raucous demonstrations contending God is punishing the military for the nation's tolerance of homosexualiity..."--THE CHICAGO SUN-TIMES 3-3-11 PG. 3
[URL=http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-HalLindseyDominionTh.pdf]]]HAL LINDSEY, DOMINION THEOLOGY, AND ANTI-SEMITISM (pdf file)[/URL] Apparently , it's not only the [URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/index.html]]]Muhammad[/URL]ans that are anti-Zionist. Last Sunday's sermon by Gil also addresses the future of Israel, [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=225111138517]]]Disobedience in Contrast to Mercy[/URL].
Neil wrote: *Thomas More* Law Center? Ironic, since More was a Renaissance humanist who persecuted Protestants & suppressed their literature while he was Chancellor. More's status as a saint, so far as I can tell, is based on his support for papal supremacy in opposition to Henry VIII. He is therefore a very poor title for a religious liberty foundation.
I Am Well Aware Of Who "Thomas More" Was......A Rabid PAPIST Who Pushed EVIL POPERY Pathetically, Pompously & Perditiously !
I Am ALSO Aware That The Article Is Trying To Pass Off Roman-"Catholic" Prosyletizers/Recruiters As "Protestant" Evangelists On This Video !
But The FACT Of The Matter Is That THIS Is A 1st AMMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION Issue; And NOT A Roman-"Catholic" 'Canon-Law' Issue !
**And, Although I Agree With "Neil" That "Thomas More" Is A "very poor title for a religious liberty foundation"--I Cannot Help But SUPPORT & DEFEND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, Especially THE 1st AMMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, From ALL ENEMIES--BOTH FOREIGN & DOMESTIC--Which INCLUDES, But Is NOT LIMITED TO:
*Thomas More* Law Center? Ironic, since More was a Renaissance humanist who persecuted Protestants & suppressed their literature while he was Chancellor. More's status as a saint, so far as I can tell, is based on his support for papal supremacy in opposition to Henry VIII.
His name therefore makes a very poor title for a foundation supporting religious liberty.
It Looks Like Eight (8) 21st Century Gestapo Goons Converging On Two (2) Peaceful ["Protestant"?] Street Evangelists !
The Scene On This Video Looks More Like It Was Taken From The WWII Photograph Of Nazi-German Storm-Troopers Surrounding Jewish Families & Arresting Them; To Be Deported & Herded Like Cattle Onto Box-Car Trains: To Be Sent To Death/Concentration Camps !
This Is TOTALLY INCONSIONABLE, REPREHENSIBLE & UNACCEPTABLE !
THIS IS A TOTAL ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL, UNLAWFUL & VICIOUS VIOLATION OF THE 1st AMMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION:
WHICH GUARANTEES THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE FREEDOM OF PEACEFUL ASSEMBLAGE, THE PEACEFUL PRACTICE OF ONE'S PEACEFUL RELIGION; PEACEFUL RELIGIOUS BELIEFS &-OR PEACEFUL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES: THAT DO NOT VIOLATE, HINDER &-OR OBSTRUCT THE LIFE, LIBERTY (PROPERTY) &-OR THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS OF THE HEARERS &-OR AUDIENCES OF ANY & ALL PROSELYTIZERS & PROSELYTES; EVANGELISTS & THE EVANGELIZED; THE SOUL-WINNERS & THE SOULS; THE PUBLIC STREET-PREACHERS & THE PUBLIC GENERAL AUDIENCE !
*THE EIGHT (8) CRIMINAL-UNLAWFUL "POLICE-MEN"; IN VIOLATION OF THE TWO (2) ["PROTESTANT"?] EVANGELIST MEN'S 1st AMMENDEMENT U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS: MUST BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF FEDERAL-STATE-LOCAL LAW !
I mis-spoke in my last post on several counts. Thanks Jim for clarification as to what was alleged in the article in discussion and sorry Sermon Audio that I thought you removed something I wrote which was actually posted in another place. I've only been censured once. I understand why. I don't agree, because I tried very hard to maintain balance. Each of us have different reasons for what we say or do. The doctrinal glasses we interpret Scripture through, as most of us are not pastor/teachers, has a great influence. All of God's children are led of His Spirit. We know He would never lead in so many so contrary directions on such very important issues? What can we do for unity in the truth?
So-called honor killings are those committed by Muslim men against their women relatives who are also [URL=http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm]]]Muhammad[/URL]ans. I believe SermonAudio mentioned this when it happened, [URL=http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2009/02/bridges-tv-a-wifes-beheading-and-honor-murder]]]Bridges TV, a Wife's Beheading, and Honor Murder[/URL]. This article has been updated, and gives for example the differences between "honor killing" and domestic violence. It is pointed out in this article, there are [URL=http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/11/honor-killing-of-muslim-males-in-the-west]]]"Honor Killings" of Muslim Males in the West[/URL].
jpw wrote: questioning, you honestly think the murder victims were able to express their religion?
Yes, if they are being murder in the context of a hate crime that was what made them hated, Yes?
Sorry jpw,
When I read the article I seemed to hear less about that and more about exposing the alleged danger of losing our religious freedom. If Christ has set us free, we are free in deed. Man may rattle their sword even kill the body but God is in control. They censored part of my response, but that dealt with what provoked me and not with your question. Please remember this was an allegation and not a proven fact. If it is true it is wicked, there are a number of crimes that Scripture calls such that this nation does not. Psalm 94:20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law? I was more provoked with how it was done on You-tube, then jumping on the allegation bandwagon.
Want a different source then WND? [URL=http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/LAWSUIT_HONOR_KILLINGS_OK_BY_MICHIGAN_SHARIAH/40968]]]LAWSUIT: 'HONOR KILLINGS' OK BY MICHIGAN SHARIAH[/URL]. Hmmm, for further explaining the trouble there, this source did use the WND. WND, often does get things right, however.
Following a google search, I found a letter from the mayor to some American convert to Islam who urged Muslims to rise up and attack in America. In the letter he says "... some Christian missionaries that I had arrested." So he was personally responsible for instructing the police to arrest them. Vote out that bum at the first opportunity.
I ask myself what is the point that World Net Daily is trying to make? It would appear it is that Americans are losing their religious freedom. I believe that our Constitution grants freedom to all religions, so why are we surprised when a 'religious' group that is one of many, multicultural, religious groups, is enabled to practice their religious beliefs? Ah, because then it makes it difficult for another religious group with opposing beliefs to practice theirs. More surprising yet is that a divided 'sort of' Christian Church is surprised.
Yes, a good commentary to read, [URL=http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/260288/who-attacked-lara-logan-and-why-andrew-c-mccarthy]]]Who Attacked Lara Logan, and Why?[/URL]