Jim Lincoln wrote:
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A lot of hymns have false doctrine in them, so I church has to rely on inaccurate expositional teaching of the Bible. ..

pennned wrote:
we dug a really really big hole once to plant a little little fruit tree, boy did we get strange looks from our friend and neighbor who happened to be a police officer!

John UK wrote:
That's it, Penny. A bit of land of your own, and bury your own dead without any cost at all apart from the digging. In my county you can apply to do this, and so long as it won't affect the purity of water courses and things like that, you can do it.

SteveR wrote:
I felt it was quite prophetic that SF quoted Eli in this thread about Calvinism and Arminism and the children that stray from the truth
1 Samuel 4:18 And it came to pass, when he made mention of the ark of God, that he fell from off the seat backward by the side of the gate, and his neck brake, and he died: for he was an old man, and heavy. And he had judged Israel forty years.

1 Kings 2:27 So Solomon thrust out Abiathar from being priest unto the LORD; that he might fulfil the word of the LORD, which he spake concerning the house of Eli in Shiloh.
1 Samuel 2:12 Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the LORD.

SteveR wrote:
Unlike you, Politicians dont give away their wickedness for free

SteveR wrote:
I dont feel the low wage will lead to corruption, but rather has led to corruption. If this continues, we will become more of a banana republic each term. Man is a fallen creature and will seek personal gain, the low wage gives him that justification. Our Reps are accountable to us at the voting booth, yet they actually represent a handful of special interests. Why? Because the voting public doesnt care as long as they get what they want. If they actually represented the people, we wouldnt have a 17 trillion dollar debt.
Unless we can get voter participation to New Zealand type levels, we must consider a change in compensation. A change where the politician relies on the public for ALL his compensation, rather than the current supplements from special interests

John UK wrote:
Yes, if that is what he meant, agreed. Note particularly the "dark ages" of Roman Catholicism and mysticism, when there were very few converts.
However, if you note, he gave the text and then gave only two alternatives as to why there were so few conversions.
Besides which, "goats" never did respond to the gospel. "My sheep hear my voice...."
As I see it, some sinners are regarded as sheep by the Lord before they even hear the gospel. This is into the realm of predestination and election.

John UK wrote:
Now if "faith" came to everyone who heard just one verse of the Bible, we could have the whole world saved in a short time. But it don't work like that, and "faith" does not come to all who hear God's word. So the text has to be correctly interpreted.

John UK wrote:
Thank you RK,
So the "days" referred to in the text are the OT Jewish "holy days", which some unregenerate Jews were trying to impose on the liberated Christians, seeking rather to remain Jewish and under their yoke of slavery.

Lurker wrote:
And this is the cause why Joshua did circumcise: All the people that came out of Egypt, that were males, even all the men of war, died in the wilderness by the way, after they came out of Egypt. **Now all the people that came out were circumcised:** but all the people that were born in the wilderness by the way as they came forth out of Egypt, them they had not circumcised.(Joshua 5:3:5)
When were all circumcised?
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were **all baptized unto Moses** in the cloud and in the sea. (1 Cor 10:1-2)
Paul called Israel's circumcision baptism; one and the same. Both are of the flesh, as opposed to the heart, and cause the subjects to become debtors to the Sinai covenant, separated from God's grace. The reward is reckoned of grace, not of debt. Baptism is the antithesis of grace. God's covenant of life is in circumcised hearts.

Mike wrote:
That makes no sense, John.

Mike wrote:
Sorry if I'm dense, don't know what you're talking about. But to assume there is an "accusation" is interesting, nonetheless. Thanks for the flexible interpretation.

Mike wrote:
I wonder if it matters what version is used if the meaning of its words are so...flexible?

John Yurich USA wrote:
My Non Denominational brother accepts that I am saved. By only participating in the scriptural parts to the Mass I am worshipping Jesus. And the reason why I still attend the Catholic Church is that I like to attend Saturday Vigil Mass to do other things on Sunday. Another reason why I am still attending the Catholic Church is that I like liturgical worship over the non liturgical worship of Evangelical Protestant Churches.

a List wrote:
"Church Logo Tattoos?"
Arminian church - "In god we trust only when HE asks our permission first."
Liberal church - "In me I trust because I am as nice as god might be if I knew him."
Baptist church - "In deep dunking I trust since sprinkling doesn't reach all the parts."
Reformed church - "In God we trust because He elected us."
Presbyterian church - "in God we trust because the Holy Spirit guides us."

"We trust in the water used for sprinkling in our baptism to save us because it turns into pixie water and makes us and our children the elect of God.

Who needs God when we can determine our own election.

Get Calvin or get lost."

(Look up Sacerdotal and compare with the WCF. An element of Romanism that was retained. )