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Survey7/3/08 9:39 AM
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Mike wrote:
Yet there was still no death until sin entered. It was sin that brought forth death. What state then existed before the fall?
Mike
If you do a Bible search for “eternal life” you will note that it only appears in the NT.
Jn 10.28, 17.2 – Jesus “gives” eternal life.
Ro 2.7 – We should seek eternal life.
Ro 6.23 – Eternal life is a gift.
Ro 5.21 – grace reigns through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus.
1Tim 6.12 – We are called to eternal life
Titus 1.2 – Eternal life was promised by God = *BEFORE* the world began. (Thus promised – BUT not given).

Finally
1Jo 1.2 Eternal life *IS* Jesus, also at 1Jo 5.11, 20.

On the “Tree of life”
Apart from a few analogous refs in Proverbs, “tree of life” doesn’t appear again until Revelation.
Re 2.7 – Those who overcome are allowed, by God, to eat of the tree of life in paradise.
Re 22.2 - on either side of the river, (water of life) was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Re 22.14 – Some get the “right” to the tree of life.

So Mike eternal life I believe was not in Adam/Eve. BUT until they sinned neither was death. Leaving eternal life STILL a gift.


Survey7/2/08 3:07 PM
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Mike wrote:
My last post:
....because he sinned. Yet God created him with eternal life, calling his creation very good..........

Upon sin, Adam became less than he was. He can't be labeled less before the fact of it."

Tell me Mike why did the Lord plant the "Tree of Life?"

Your assumption (correct me if I', Wrong) here is that Adam and Eve were created with eternal life.
So ok lets run with that one.

Adam and Eve did NOT require the Tree of Life, because they would live for eternity, unless they sinned.
But they did sin.

So the tree of life was for non-eternals to eat from. But they were eternal until they sinned and were kicked out of Eden.

So the tree of life is for what?
People to munch on when the Lord grants His elect eternal life?

If we go back to life in the garden. Assuming, if we say, Adam was eternal, then the tree of life is irrelevant to him. Even if we play it that God foreknew that Adam would sin, again why plant the tree which provides immortality? God is not going to let him anywhere near it is He.

Thus the problem is why did God plant a tree with no function in the Eden "circumstance" He created.

Unless eternity was NOT as long as Adam could live for.
Then there was a purpose behind it.


Survey7/2/08 11:14 AM
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Michael Hranek wrote:
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I think you've gotten it wrong there friend.
There is only one choice
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
Have you really done that? If not you desperately need to and can because God Himself tells you to.
Michael &
Mike

Sorry fellas you've missed the train on that one.

Two Ways:::
#1] Pelagian, Papist, Arminian, FreeWiller Heresy of salvation by works - excluding the election by God.

#2] Reformed Biblical Truth that God alone elects/chooses His own without merit on their part, or foreknown/foreseen action of the sinner.

Michael has Jesus "chosen" you yet and can you prove it, other than believing that YOU chose Him?

"For many are called, but few are chosen(Mat 22.14)

"Ye have **not chosen** me, but **I have chosen** you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit,... (Jo 15.16)

"But ye are a **chosen** generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people(1Pe 2.9)
____________

Mike
Re your last post below

Then why did God Say
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore..etc


Survey7/1/08 5:29 PM
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Free Willer wrote:
Free Willers Unite. Calvinists always put the cart before the horse. ALWAYS.
There is only two ways.
Man selects and proposes himself
OR
God elects His chosen without merit.

If man selects then he cannot access salvaion.
If God Elects then He saves.

The Reformed Church always gives the glory to God.

The free willer denies God's right to sovereign election, whilst believing they can defeat sin on their own.

"Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. (Ro 11.5/6)



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