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12/5/06 4:06 PM |
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continuedThe Reformation gave a Biblical understanding of the office of a ministerBefore the Reformation, the concept of the Christian ministry was sacerdotal. That is – it was understood that every clergyman was a sacrificing priest. The clergy were understood to hold the keys of Heaven and to be practically the mediators between God and man. The Reformers brought the office of the clergy down to its Scriptural level. They stripped it entirely of any sacerdotal character. They cast out the words “sacrifice” and “altar”. They taught that the clergy were pastors, ambassadors, messangers, witnesses, evangelists, teachers and ministers of the Word and sacraments. The Reformers taught that the chief business of every Christian minister is to preach the Word and to be diligent in prayer and the reading of the Scriptures. The Reformers taught the immense superiority of the pulpit to the confessional. For this reason, where the altar used to be, the Lord’s table was placed with an open Bible, or a pulpit, showing the centrality of God’s Word in the worship of Protestant churches. |
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12/5/06 4:03 PM |
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"The Reformation opened the road to the throne of Grace The way of salvation had become blocked up and made impassible by heaps of superstitious rubble. “He who desired to obtain forgiveness had to seek it through a jungle of priests, saints, Mary worship, masses, penances, confession, absolution and the like, so that there might as well have been no throne of Grace at all.” J.C. Ryle"The Reformers hacked their way through this huge jungle of papal obstruction and cleared the way for every heavy-laden sinner to go straight to the Lord Jesus Christ for remission of sins." "The Reformation restored Biblical simplicity to worship Before the Reformation, the laity were only present at church services as passive, ignorant spectators. The elaborate, theatrical presentations of the sacraments were a solemn farce because the ceremonies and prayers were in Latin. The laity could bring their bodies to the services, but their minds, understanding, reason and spirit could take no part at all. For this reason, the 24th Article of the Church of England declared: “It is a thing totally repugnant to the Word of God and the custom of the primitive church to have public prayer in the church or to minister the sacraments in a tongue not understood of the people.” |
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12/5/06 4:01 PM |
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JD said, "reformation was a farce."The reformation was from God! “It is from such superstition, corruption, immorality, ignorance and idolatry that God through the Reformation freed the church.” "The Reformation gave the church back the Bible "Nothing seems to have alarmed and enraged the Roman priesthood as much as the spread of Bibles in the local language. It was for the crime of translating the Bible into English that the Reformer, William Tyndale, was burned at the stake. Of all the aspects which combined to make up the Reformation, no other aspect received such bitter opposition as the translation and circulation of the Scriptures. The translation of the Bible struck a blow at the root of the whole Roman Catholic system. The Bible, as the only rule of faith and conduct, freely available in the local languages, was a threat to all the superstitions and abuses of the medieval Roman popery. With the Bible in every parish church, every thoughtful man soon saw that the religion of the priests had no basis in Holy Scripture." |
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12/4/06 7:23 AM |
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Msc “"Denying the Lord that bought them." So, see, here we have an answer to the Limited Atonement.”If it is as you say that the Lord not only died for these wicked false teachers but that he also bought them with His precious blood, then we too can lose our salvation. If they were bought/ purchased by the blood of Christ then they were saved and then lost their salvation. (1Co 7:23) Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. (Act 20:28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (1Co 6:20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. (Eph 1:13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, (Eph 1:14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. |
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12/3/06 4:30 PM |
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Michael "Total Depravity - Does not mean total inability to respond to God, to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and the preaching of the Word of God brings in a person's life. A sinner is quite unable to save themselves through any merit or works of their own however they are able to respond to God (repent and trust Him)and be saved by Him when He deals with them. But that also means the lost who hear of Christ perish in hell not because God did not provide salvation but that they rejected it."Remo, you're right it does sound like Roman Catholic teaching. Council of Trent declares: "CANON IV. If any one shall affirm, that man’s freewill, moved and excited by God, does not, by consenting, cooperate with God, the mover and exciter, so as to prepare and dispose itself for the attainment of justification; if moreover, anyone shall say, that the human will cannot refuse complying, if it pleases, but that it is inactive, and merely passive; let such an one be accursed"!" CANON V.- If anyone shall affirm, that since the fall of Adam, man’s freewill is lost and extinguished; or, that it is a thing titular, yea a name, without a thing, and a fiction introduced by Satan into the Church; let such an one be accursed"!" |
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12/2/06 11:43 AM |
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JD I asked, Then what do the words born again in John 3:3 mean?You said “They mean 'born again'.” Being born again is to be born of the Spirit which is regeneration! (Joh 3:6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. (Joh 3:7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (Joh 3:8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. |
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12/1/06 11:04 PM |
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cont.Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should ***taste death for every man.*** Heb 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing ***many sons unto glory,*** to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Heb 2:12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee. Heb 2:13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, ***Behold I and the children which God hath given me.*** |
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12/1/06 10:57 PM |
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Michael “ties to The Blood of Christ and the idea that the one being I can think of who would do his worst to belittle the death of Christ, belittle just who He died for, belittle His precious shed blood is not a citizen in the kingdom of God's Beloved Son.”So I ask again does the Bible contradict itself? Who gave himself a ransom for all... to give his life a ransom for many... For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many... that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man." Joh 10:15 … I lay down my life for the sheep. Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring… |
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12/1/06 10:38 PM |
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DB “Jesus was talking to the Jews, who like many Calvinist, that thought they were the only ones who were partakers of God's covenant of grace, to the exclusion of the Gentiles.”Jesus was talking to His disciples Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Jesus was again talking to His disciples Mat 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. This was a prophecy of how Christ would die and shed His blood to justify many and bear their iniquities. Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. You also said “The opposite of "many" is "few". The opposite of "all" is "none". Simple grammatics would tell us that he did not come only to provide redemption for the Jews (few), but both the Jews and Gentiles (many).” OK,If you say so, but I don't think you are right. |
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12/1/06 10:12 PM |
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DB "FYI, I think they forgot this verse"So does the Bible contradict itself? Who gave himself a ransom for all... to give his life a ransom for many... For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many... |
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12/1/06 10:01 PM |
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Michael"But I guess you all don't like the idea Jesus willing shed His blood for sinners, for all sinners, so they could be forgiven." The Lord said He shed His blood for many sinners not all sinners! For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. (Mat 26:28) Mat 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. |
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11/28/06 9:35 PM |
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Michael “Anyway that would be much more in line with the belief of some that the elect are made alive independent of hearing the Word of God, think.”What Calvinist ever said that the elect are made alive independent of the hearing of the Word of God? Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Michael "Apparently the Holy Spirit gives us understanding hearing the word of God is what gives/produces faith...? So is faith a gift of the Holy Spirit? |
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