Watcher to HerbalMama wrote: If I had a quarter for every time I asked someone to explain where I was in error and they said almost exactly the same thing you just said, I could retire somewhere...not so expensive. Nonetheless, this is a forum and we still have a semblance of free speech here so I will bow out again not understanding where I am in error.
Bro, some will just argue for the sake of argument, not knowing what it is they are arguing for or against. These people are called argumentative. When you ask them nicely, "Please point out my error," they cannot.
Be assured that there are others on forum who will certainly point out what they call your "errors", but in reality, you are only "in error" because you say things that they disagree with. In other words "they" are the standard, they and they alone hold the truth, and everyone else is a heretic. Years ago, this happened often between the Baptists and Presbyterians. Thankfully, that has calmed down quite a lot, as people realised that distinctives do not prove a person's profession, and we have to get to know people individually, and sort out the wheat from the tares. God's elect have a fragrance, because they are indwelt by Christ.
Watchmanrem wrote: Come on John...đ The disagreement is that all claim the same as you. Of coarse Jesus is your shepherd!Absolutely . You know thats not what i was referring too... you know we are in agreement to this whole thing. But was referring too the simplicity of your idea. All would claim what you wrote. Where i would start is where and who taught the dispensationalsim idea. Doctrine of men. You second go was great.đđ
You disagree that the Lord is my Shepherd? Well, that's okay. Your disagreement does not change the facts.
My claim is that although God was speaking to his people (the Jews) in the OT, it is clear that the actual people of God are children of Abraham in the spiritual not physical sense, and that Christ himself is the seed of Abraham, making all Christians children of God, whether they be Jew, Gentile, or anything else. Thusly, the expression "replacement" is incorrect, and shows a lack of understanding of what many of us believe.
Thusly, the promises of God to the Jews (a new heart will I give you, etc.) become the promises of God to the elect of God, irrespective of whether or not they are Jew or Gentile. All are one in Christ Jesus - not replacement but fulfilment.
Watchmanrem wrote: They call us replacement, the reformers were replacement deceivers they SAY..
What is needful is to study scripture with the help of the Spirit, and see how God has pictured the new covenant in the OT, thereby making, say, the psalms, most relevant to all men in all generations, living in either the old covenants or the new covenant.
Thusly, I can say (for myself)....
"The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want." Ps 23:1
Mike wrote: The subject of seat belts brought a reminder. It would save many more lives if the speed limit were reduced to 15 mph. Thousands every year in the US alone. Otherwise wouldnât it be better to remain indoors, where we are safe distanced from people driving 55? But for some reason the vast majority of drivers donât drive in fear of losing their lives. Why is that, and why is no governing authority concerned over this unnecessary loss of life on the highway? Youâd think living life is more important than just breathing air. Callous.
Exactly Mike. If you had the power, you would reduce the speed limit, sure you would. Or maybe increase it? Our 70mph maximum speed limit (which means 80mph) could do with reducing to 45mph, thereby reducing deaths on the road. Even better, let us make illegal these ridiculously high speeds of trains and taxis and airplanes, and get back to donkeys such as Jesus used. That would reduce deaths by about 99.9%.
As for the pandemic, I believe that if no measures had been taken by any country in the world, around half the world would have eventually tested positive, and deaths increased to 160 million.
Frank wrote: Yes brother, he sure is a character. And if he is able to post thoughts on this site, then he is of course responsible for those thoughts.
He sure is a character bro. Oh it made me larf! Not so much because it was funny, but simply the fact that he seemed to be quite serious in his answer to a very good question. Mind you bro, it might have been a little too deep for him, although I caught the sense of it straight away.
I wonder if John Yurich regards the taking of the Holy Communion in the RCC as necessary for salvation? If not, why is it a negative to be excommunicated from the RCC?
Yes, it was quite a night, but I did get some sleep, and the news in the early hours caused me to rejoice with great rejoicing.
Frank wrote: Well John, it has been a while since you posted frequently on the forum. Because of that I am going to ask you a question that will allow those who donât know you to know where you stand. What would be the spiritual negative if someone was excommunicated from the catholic church?
John Yurich USA wrote: According to Catholic teaching the spiritual negative of being excommunicated from the Catholic Church is that one can't receive Holy Communion.
Adriel wrote: 1tim 2:2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.â So Christians have already been praying for President Trump. AND Will keep doing so because GOD has commanded us to. May the Lord have mercy upon President Trump and his wife and family. We pray for a safe recovery. Amen. Regardless of all politics.
It is a most wonderful thing that any child of God can pray to God, being a priest of the Most High by adoption and able to come into his presence by the blood of the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
I find that it helps to see people as spirits, travelling around in an outer casing called the body. The spirit does not have a size or age, so ignoring the outer casing helps to see the real person within.
The Quiet Christian wrote: Brother John, we're already there. Most of us don't pay attention.
Quiet Brother, quite so.
I remember when I was attending a 1689 Baptist church in Devon, I befriended a lovely Down's Syndrome teenager, who was the son of the elder and his wife. He was a remarkable person, very loving and very loveable. Everyone got on with him, and he was a joy to be with. He was aloof from the world, and hadn't gotten that coldness that comes from distrust. It was from him that I realised there is something quite special about those people, having seen it in many others whom I've met over the years.
Chrisgp from England wrote: It is the terrible fear of this disease that has saddened me...
Chris, thank you so much for your response. I know you are a thinking man and Christian brother, and I am sure I would enjoy fellowship with you.
I am also sure, from what you have said in the past, that you have been to several different countries. Did you not have to endure travel injections, to inoculate you against catching diseases which we know nothing of in this country? Like malaria etc. I very much doubt that you had a crippling fear of catching malaria, rather you took precautions, as advised by guvs either end of the journey. Is this not so? Why then do you refer to taking precautionary measures against C19 (common sense measures) as irrational fear? Or are you referring to the unregenerate, who all their lives are crippled by a fear of death?
Hebrews 2:15 KJV (15)Â And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
Chrisgp from England wrote: No, John UK I am not full of fear, I think you are.
It depends Chris on what sort of fear you are talking about. Let me show you what I have in Christ Jesus:
2 Timothy 1:7 KJV (7)Â For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
So I am filled with power, love, and a sound mind. I have no fear, yet you say I have fear. Of what do you say I am afraid?
You are the one who is always grumbling about not being able to have fellowship because the guv has ruled it out. Yet I have not missed one week of fellowship, even though I take risks to do so. You are the one who is always grumbling about this, that, and the other. Yet I am still actively involved in the evangelisation of the world and putting my life on the line, that others might hear the gospel and be saved.
Or are you talking about a healthy fear, which compels you to keep your kitchen clean lest you attract unwanted bugs there, or whatever.
Healthy fear means you wear a seatbelt in your car. Is it a fear of being fined for noncompliance, or a fear of going through the windscreen if you have a head on smash? Do you maintain your air bags?
1517 wrote: John UK and Watcher, 1. I know itâs not a hoax in the literal sense, but the political hyperbole has made it a mockery and a âhoaxâ relative to pseudo care for the âlives of peopleâ on behalf of politicians seeking to maintain or gain power. 2. As for my comment, Watcher was being sarcastic and would rather attack the notion of a âhoaxâ than pray for health of President Trump. This is a Christian site, not another cesspool social media platform where snark and belittling comments flow.
1. 1517, you really believe that both the potus and our own pm have gained points through this pandemic?
I think you might find that they have gone down in the opinion of the people, so I'm sorry but your point then would be wrong.
2. I can't believe you said that. Have you ever considered that you might be to blame for so affecting Watcher's good Christian character that he starts posting like some other people on this so-called "Christian site" which so often is no different from a social media boxing ring?
And I don't believe the pandemic is a hoax; nor do I believe it is a means to elevate politicians in the eyes of the people; nor do I believe it is a means to bring in the one world guv, one world church, or any other one world.
Chrisgp from England wrote: ...to quarantine the sick, not the healthy...
Chris, the problem with that idea, is that people may be contagious before they develop symptoms and go into quarantine.
If the foolish people of the UK had obeyed all that the guv told them, the pandemic here would be over by now and we could have returned to normal. But no, the foolish people, without any fear whatsoever, that is, without any fear of the C19 or of catching it, foolish I say, because many of them are now hospitalised on account of their foolishness, and some will die, even young people, as C19 is no respecter of persons, these foolish people are the cause of a second wave of C19, NOT the guv, and I lay the guilt of manslaughter at their feet, for imagining that C19 is a figment in the mind of global power-mongers, who have their own agenda for creating a hoax and a fairy tale, and bringing restrictions to bear without genuine cause, but only for their own cause, which is not the safety of the population.
Chris, it sounds as though you are full of fear, because of what is coming on the world. You will only find peace in Jesus Christ. Cast ALL your care on him, for he careth for you. Do it today, bro.
Chrisgp from England wrote: One more thought for much prayer. Do pray for the President, but also pray for the protection of VP Pence and his wife and family, as he deputises for President Trump over the next few days. Donât forget that the 3 rd in line under the Constitution if anything happened to both President and Vice President is the Speaker of the House of Representatives, one Nancy Pelosi, need we say more. We must pray against that possibility!
Chris, do you believe that if we desire and pray in the will of God he will hear us and answer our prayer? When I say "answer our prayer" I mean "grant us our request".
In other words, if you do not believe that it is God's will to have Nancy Pelosi in the driving seat, then it only takes you alone to pray against that, and it will not happen. Do you see what I'm saying?
I'm sure there are a lot of believers who pray for something, but they really don't know whether or not it is God's will. So they pray, but do not believe in the power of prayer; they simply hope for an affirmative answer. And if they don't get it, there is the 'get-out' clause: "Yes, No, Not now".
Much as I love all those with Down's Syndrome, and regard them as special, to have yet another awareness month is ridiculous.
If it carries on like this, every month of the year will have about a hundred issues about which we are to become aware or more aware. It's nothing more than oppression and tradition, things that 'the world' loves. And as far as I am concerned, the world is my enemy, along with mine own flesh and the devil.