Jim Lincoln wrote:
No, Republicans are trying to destroy healthcare for the poor while rewarding the rich, as usual.

CFR runs all the agenda 21 stuff.

and with current leader there's issues of frod on the certificate.

how do I know this? because my Lord turned water into wine, because He was accused of being drunken (he sat among the sinners).

John the Baptist was an abstainer, but if this the mandate, go all the way with it, a Nazrite vow? Go all the way with it. Do not cut your hair, eat locusts and live outside the city, wear natural fibers and do not get married.

Its the RCC that ascribes the higher value to the nun who does not get married, that's not biblical either.

Does the bible say that in some ways remaining single is preferable? yes it does. however, is not the pattern set for man than he get married and multiply? so we are blessed by both.

And what if set a long list of rules for ourselves would we be any closer to God?

Yet a child with a simple heart can thank God for the smallest of things.

So the full counsel of God must be taken in the Word of God AND led by the Holy Spirit.

For ALL things must be put at the foot of the cross.

the farmer (free range human) is being bankrupted.

cannot buy or sell without giving incense to the growing pedophilia market called lgbabcdefg (everything except Christ).

B. McCausland wrote:
Gladness derived from wine is a sensorial/physical stimulation,

I do not see gladness as a weakness.

I agree with your point distinguishing the joy of the Lord from temperal pleasures.

When I hold a newborn baby, for instance, or share a wonderful meal with loved ones, I am glad in the temperal sense, but within this I am giving thanks to God in the true since of joy in the Lord.

But scripture also says to rejoice in our sufferings, so when suffering comes, especially when it is because of Christ's name, then we are commanded to rejoice in Christ (I'd say that to do otherwise would be to become imbittered by life)

I do not disagree that the picture of the young woman (the virgin) and a lighter wine would be alluded to in places, it makes sense because we think of strong wine and drunkenness as a loss of innocence. I have no issue with that.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Call out the cavalry and get these squatters out

Matthew 26:26-29

"And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

"And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;

"For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Numbers 18:25-27, its part of the tithe

Nehemiah 13:15 -- you see what they are doing, but making wine? -- course shouldn't have been selling on Sabbath.

Isaiah 16:10, Jeremiah 48:33 ceasing of the wine presses considered a loss.

Lamentations 1:15 Lord has trodden the young men in the wine press, signifies God's wrath

Isaiah 63:1-6 wine press signifies God's wrath and the blood of people poured out (this is why the wine is used to signify Atonement)

Joel 3:13 wine press is full, signifies fullness of judgement. (Christ suffered the Father's wrath of the sins of the world on the cross)

Rev 19:11-16 robe dipped in blood

Rev 14:18-19 sickle, world wrath, wine press

Deut 16:13-15 Feast of Booths, gather the wine vats

Isaiah 5:1-2 beloved has vines and wine vat

Matthew 21:33-34 landowner planted vineyard and wine press around it

B. McCausland wrote:
Aiming for excellency

been lectured against water for gardens to "save the earth", but never know anyone to refuse a fresh tomato from the garden.

well, you never know when you might need something that you've banned unnecessarily from your medicine cabinet. for instance, with the medical costs climbing and stock markets threatening to crash, what if the only thing you have to kill pain when extracting a tooth is alcohol?

Or a sick stomach or need to preserve some fruit, you never know, that's why there's no need to be holier than bibile. Its even possible that the ferment of the wine is part of the picture of the Savior who's blood was poured out. The pressing of the grapes, the whole process, the souring of the grapes, reminds of the vinegar on the cross.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Christians are always going to fail at trying to reform society!

in fact, always vote the "wrong" way on everything, let evil permeate everything, because as the flesh must dictate, there' nothing each and all of us can do to influence life for the better.

why love thy neighbor?

if they are going to fall into a ditch let fate, um, I mean God's Sovereignty show that it has nothing to do with me.

If I see him walk toward a pit, why should I care? -- its inevitable, or fate, or I mean God's Sovereignty, right?

Why would I see forced prostitution in my neighborhood and want the illegal business shut down? abortion clinic, what big deal is it if there's one right next to where the kids play?

why should I save a child left on the roof to die or ready to be picked up for temple prostitution? (ie Amy Carmichael)

Dolores wrote:
Lexalina, I too,

my first questions if a child is not acting according to their own nature is..

1 -- who sexually asssualted them? or is abusing them and confusing them?

2 -- what chemical issues are going on in their body?

instead you'd rather "legitimize" it and keep them from normal and healthy social interactions?

what happens when a girl who God designed to one day grow up and marry a Godly man and have children of her own, is instead molested and abused, the adults tell her its good, she then becomes "butch" and aggressive and male like, and goes to a school like this that says its great! and then grows up and becomes the "man" in a relationship with a woman.

and then years later wakes up and goes, my Lord and my God, Jesus Christ and comes out of it?

Why put her through such years of abuse, instead when she is a child shed the light of truth?

our missionaries like amy Carmichael went to foreign lands and saved the children being sacrificed to idols and temple prostitution.

this is no different.

Thelo DePantas Lalein wrote:
1/10/16 2:53 PM
"he was not to be considered as one who understands Greek well."

Thelo DePantas Lalein wrote:
This is more evidence that we are not required to know Greek &/or hebrew

s c wrote:
You discount Mike Hoggard's right division

you can't have it both ways. you can't say I'm a KJVO pastor and reject Greek yet prove the KJV wrong by using Greek.

Unless he is a special guru fallen from the clouds, in order to use Greek, he would have to study it for years, such as many biblicists do, who settle issues like this, not by feelings or because "I'm special" but because they have honestly studied the text.

and if he did he would have to let the KJV speak for itself, because it is an excellent version.