Jesus has a better way of dealing with people than through Facebook. Oh, what does he say and do, then? You can read all about it in the four gospels. It's all about "preaching the gospel", and one very noticeable thing is that he didn't keep following people about, hoping to convert them. He moved on to new pastures.
John for JESUS wrote: John UK... Regardless if she was outed by Facebook or some other means, the point is she took a stand against evil and God who sees all will bless her. I'm surprised you would suggest she kept her mouth shut about the homosexual indoctrination of children. What would you have suggested she do?
Ever heard of a trade union?
Watcher wrote: I agree, John. Christians are not political heroes, and they truly have no business shouting their disdain from the rooftops. It's not going to make a difference and as you said, now she's out of a job and could quite possibly bring the Ministry down onto her family for her lack of self-control. If a Christian works in the world, like most of us, do, we have to pick our battles and use discretion when needed. Her post on FB did nothing to change the atmosphere of the school she worked at. Honestly, it will probably make it worse to keep "nutcases" like her out. They'll put in policies to "protect" the children from her "hate". She should have waged her wars through being a quiet example and through prayer. Not FB.
Mike wrote: Well John I never claimed to be an expert on contagious diseases, but then you donâ€™t have to be one to look at the data. Just the ability and willingness to read, and pay attention to details. Now as far as expertise in the disease field, when various experts not only contradict each other, but even themselves, which my daily record keeping has shown to be so, then maybe we might conclude their title carries more weight than their knowledge. Btw, I am willing to be enlightened as to how it is politicians are experts in medicine, and why therefore we should be ok with their medical directives. Simple questions ought to at least be asked, and not seen as foolishness.
Mike, I quite agree. Sometimes I look at the data being provided, but to be honest it bores me and makes me fall asleep. I do get the gist of it, though, and know that in the UK we are heading for another national lockdown, all because silly people did not obey the guv's guidelines and reintroduced the virus, mainly through young people.
You are right about politicians, and I am glad that from the PM down, they are taking advice of what to do from experts in the field. Of course no-one is expert in coronavirus yet because it is new.
Frank wrote: Thanks brother! I had never heard of Alan Turin. But I have always thought that a scientist's IQ is normally much higher than the average fellow, so your example makes a lot of sense. And, I thank God that IQs mean nothing in God's economy. He can and does use anyone to accomplish His purposes.
It is a good thing that he does, bro, as I don't think I have much of an IQ. Toyota used to make an IQ, one of the smallest cars in the world.
Not many people in the UK would have known about Turin, including me. But there is an excellent film made about that part of the war, and it focusses on Turin and the team that was set up to break the Enigma. I can't remember the title, but it may have been "Codebreaker", and makes excellent watching.
Correct! And this means that the pandemic and its news features will be still talked about over Christmas. I do hope it doesn't mean the Annual Christmas Debate will be cancelled, because I am quite looking forward to it.
Adriel wrote: Planting the seeds of wickedness in these young minds is the devilâ€™s method of taking over the future, a work he has been doing for centuries.
Yes indeed, and may God bless with heap big blessings, all those churches and individuals throughout the world who have taken this to heart, and are actively engaged in defeating the enemy and bringing the little ones to Jesus.
Watcher wrote: 1. First off, Clinton isn't a Christian. 2. Secondly, she has no idea whatsoever what makes a healthy church. 3. Thirdly, if people are leaving the "church", then they are doing so for greener pastures. 4. The whole premise of the mainstream church today is to entertain the goats and bring in money to fuel their programs and incomes. 5. The church as we see it today has little to do with Jesus Christ and His Gospel. 6. Many Sunday schools have ceased to mention the name of Jesus altogether. 7. I also find it ironic that most of the commenters on this forum judge those of us who speak the truth in love and get offended when someone such as myself calls a spade a spade. 8. Y'all might not agree with me and get offended over my judgment of what I see transpire here on a daily basis, but it's what I experience almost every time I open my mouth here. 9. We are called to be judges of each other. That's one of our responsibilities. 10. It keeps the leaven out and keeps the church healthy.
Watcher, allow me the privilege of giving mine own opinion on your post.
Frank wrote: Brother, you and I will agree on this issue. Below is just me musing. I tried to get an accurate percentage of scientists that believe in evolution. I did find the percentage of 99.9 mentioned several times. That would include these epidemiologists. Now how can anyone put their trust in a group such as this?
Bro, I think we do it every day.
Now if I mentioned a genius called Alan Turin, would you know about him? He was a mathematical genius, and he was a sodomite which, at the time he lived in England, was illegal.
The German war factory had developed a machine for sending vital messages in code; it was named The Enigma machine. No longer could British intelligence intercept messages. The machine was so deadly that no-one could unlock the way it worked. That was, until an ungodly sodomite with a huge brain, was called in to develop a decoding machine. And he did it! And it was vital for the war effort.
Now what I am saying is that Alan Turin was an expert in his field. So much so, that he was the top brain in England, despite being unregenerate.
And his story could be repeated a multitude of times in various circumstances.
HerbalMama wrote: Perhaps I interpreted it wrong. My humble apologies, John. I still disagree with the bigger point but no further debate necessary as we would not see eye to eye on the matter. Have a good day.
No need for an apology, HerbalMama. It was probably my fault for not being clear enough. You know what it is like. You have something in your mind that you've been thinking about, and then you share it with someone else imagining that they will see what you see straight away, and they give you a stare which says, "Eh?"
John for JESUS wrote: Yeah, but look at the attention she has brought to the issue of kids being indoctrinated at a early age by unbiblical propaganda and the prosecution people will face if they speak out.
There are so many awarenesses today, John, that it will be forgotten tomorrow because of some other awareness. And even if people are made aware of what is happening, who will do anything about it? You? All it is, is a topic of conversation, like the weather and who won the ball game.
Now she is unemployed and will be forgotten tomorrow. I think if you ask her, she will regret her course of action. There is a better way of doing it than going on Facebook. Man, why people imagine Facebook to be some sort of saviour is beyond me.
Mike wrote: Whether or not they are experts is not an issue, but whether what they say is true or false, which may well be observable without a degree.
Mike, you and I both know that having a degree is no guarantee of being an expert in that field. Experts are experts because they have experience, and the more experience, the more expert they become.
A car mechanic who has been fixing cars for twenty years, from mending a puncture, to stripping a carburettor, to changing a gearbox, to rebuilding an engine, to welding up the rusty sills, to changing the leaf springs, this man is an expert with cars, and there will not be many things he couldn't tackle. So he is an expert with cars and you are not.
So why do you think that you are more of an expert concerning medical things like contagious diseases than the experts who have been working in this field for many years? Is it because you are viewing this current pandemic as a spiritual thing which can be discerned by those who are born again? Or do you see it with political eyes, eyeing up the political consequences of developing the pandemic?
Or are you another armchair general who tells the troops what they ought be doing?
J4 wrote: John UK... She says she was deeply concerned about the compulsory sex education being forced on my 9-year-old son at a Church of England primary school. I didn't see the post, but I imagine she was trying to shed light on the situation.
Yes of course, and she did it on a platform that is freely available all around the world to view. And now she is unemployed, and who cares?
There is always a right way to go about things, and she ought to have gone the old-fashioned way instead of trying to "go viral" on social media.
I thought that seeing as the Clintons are both hypocrites, making any sort of intelligent comment about the reasons for young people staying away from church, ought to be met with a John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious!"
HerbalMama wrote: John UK, you stated: "There are many people in this world who have no wisdom, Mike. They do not know God, and they have only the so-called wisdom of the world. The Bible says that those who deny the existence of God are fools. But as restrictions were eased off gently, the fools, having no peace in their hearts, went on a rampage of hedonism, and disobeyed all the restrictions, thinking those restrictions to be nonsensical, when in fact it was they who were acting nonsensically." There. Unless fools doesn't always mean fools.
HerbalMama, thanks for replying and explaining. I see now where you think I was referring to some Christians as fools. But if you look more carefully, I said that biblically, those who deny the existence of God are fools. So the "fools" here in context, cannot refer to Christian people. No, the fools I mentioned are atheists, the majority of the population here in the UK. These fools foolishly, in accordance with their nature, went from obeying the guidelines and restrictions to disobeying the guidelines and restrictions, just as soon as there was a chance to do so. And that foolish act has brought us right back to square one in the UK. Read my post again. Thanks.