Christopher000 wrote:
On second thought, no more responses please. I really shouldn't have brought this up and begun polluting another thread. Doesn't belong here or anywhere.
Carry on...

Christopher000 wrote:
could God be trying to get me to wake up and out the door for my own spiritual health amd well being?

B. McCausland wrote:
Thanks for your kindness. It is a pity mutual understanding is missed, as it is a pleasure to fellowship with sound-minded Christians for the purpose of mutually adding to our faith.
May we ever be prevented from the exclusive spirit displayed in Is 66:5
Every blessing

May the Lord bless your walk with Him.

Clearly, we do not understand one another. In spoken English, 'if' as you used it is loaded with assumption. Now if I have understood you correctly you are suggesting that I am bearing false witness against you. This is blatantly false and deeply offensive.

Your posts are very difficult to understand at times due to the way you structure sentences and your unique phraseology. So forgive me if they are misunderstood.

I am familiar with both the ministry of Chris Hand and Chamberlin and have listened to both sermons although they are not the final word on the subject.
I am strictly conservative myself yet I have knowledge of the church Mr. Murray is from and can assure you that, though not as conservative in nature as I personally prefer they would not be considered Neo-Calvinist.

It has never been my intention to offend you but I can see now that debate with you is pretty pointless mainly because you don't understand what I am trying to say and vice-versa. I'm sure you don't mean to be offensive either so rather than be offended again by your rather cutting posts...I wish you well and though I have not borne false witness against you I apologise if that is what you understood.

B. McCausland wrote:
Our conscience should be bound only by the Word of God, not by any fellow Christian, any preacher, 'divine', denomination, creed, or church affiliation.
Neo-Calvinism leans heavenly on the idea of 'personal opinion' which varies from individual to individual, ethnical settings, or cultures.
Conservatism leans on convictions made out from the strict teaching of the Word. This seems a safer ground of confidence.
God has given teachers to the church and we do well to benefit from such a gift. Yet we should exercise Berean discernment. While doing so, often one seems less convinced by the ministry of some because of their lapsed sense on biblical separation.
Andrew Foster's series on 'Separation' defines the issue using the Levitical teaching.
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=112909930303

B. McCausland wrote:
Sorry, but if Mr Murray's particular evaluation on a topic borders the Neo-Calvinist current trend of thought, the issue stands as this. This has to be admitted, rather than be excused or resented.

On Neo-Calvinism:
'New Calvinism Examined' by Chris Hand
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=33112236341
'New Calvinism - It's Emphasis & Impact' by Chris Hand
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=4112313272

B. McCausland wrote:
Neo-Calvinism is a tendency, say a current trend, that permeates different evangelical circles and it can be found across the denominations. It is not a denomination per se, but its influence is obvious and recognizable in a consistent fashion.
Please, also notice the wording of the post:
"Murray seems to take the approach of the Neo Calvinists' camp"
As you can see Mr. Murray has not been labeled as a Neo-Calvinist, but he was referred to the movement by correlation, due to his approach approximating the Neo-Calvinist fashion.
There is nothing unkind or unfair in recalling things as they are.
For further information on the topic if interested see
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=86111524575

I'm sure you mean well but we must be very careful what we say or suggest about godly men, especially on a public forum.

Christopher000 wrote:
I always regret posting such personal things after the fact, but felt it was relavent and would have left a gap in my explanation if I didn't.

B. McCausland wrote:
Imprecatory prayers have not in view personal vindication, but the honour of God.
A valid exposition about the topic can be followed here:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=104151837509