Wayne wrote:
...I simply used the silence of White churches during the critical times in our Country's history when people of color were treated very badly to ask the question: does it mean that all Whites approved of the atrocities that were levied against these people?

You seem to be making the same error in your defense of Obama that he himself makes defending his pastor. There is a major difference between having a grandmother who is racist and having a pastor who is racist (or at least obnoxious and judgmental). You can not choose the one, but you can choose the other. If I was going to a church that only had one black person attending and he was the doorman, I would first inquire about the situation and if not satisfactory, I would leave, shaking the dust off my shoes.

Where is the African-American church helping the Sudanese that are being slaughtered and sold as slaves today? What is the African-American church doing to rescue forced prostitutes and sex-slaves today? Better yet, why is it that the African-American church is still licking its wounds instead of initiating God’s call to act upon injustices such as the above? Why isn’t the African-American church crying out against abortion considering that 2 out of 3 abortions are black babies?

Wayne wrote:
Dear JP ...Since many Whites in America are afraid of the power of Barack Obama, they need to find a reason not to vote for him.
where was the White church when Black people were ...lynched and hanged in this Country...?"
where was the White church when Blacks could not eat at the same restaurant...? where was the White church when Blacks could not vote? -etc.

I am not dismissing the atrocities committed by and to Europeans, Africans, Asians, Natives, etc. We all can probably put together a list. While this does not excuse evil whatever ethnicity it may find itself clothed in, neither is it limited it to the plight of the black man. I am not insinuating that the black plight is irrelevant, but it certainly is not isolated. What I was taking issue with was your accusations directed toward me and others who refuse to support Obama. Well, his cultural background is of no consequence to me. I am not afraid of a black president; I think that it would be a delightful day.

Wayne wrote:
JP: You decided to take the cowardly way out because you have no answer for the questions I posed. I'm still waiting on your answers....

33k wrote:
...it pains me to say it but we all have a debt to the French in this particular matter.

AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:
Again: I was born in Hyde-Park (64th & Kenwood), Chicago, IL & grew up there in the early 1960s...

Wayne wrote:
Since many Whites in America are afraid of the power of Barack Obama, they need to find a reason not to vote for him.

While the trend for both Republicans and Democrats is lining their own pocket books your presumptions are totally off base. Living in Illinois I can honestly say that I regret not having voted for the Democratic governor contender that ran against George Ryan in 1998. He is the reason why we have been stuck with Blagojevich for two terms. Nevertheless, there has only been one single politician whose sign I have actually stuck in my front yard, it was Obama’s contender – Alan Keys.

Bottom line, if you want to support pro-abortionist Obama, that is your prerogative, but don’t patronize me about Bush being corrupt with your obvious personal biases. It is on record that the Clintons have been the most investigated family in America. But even this does not let Obama off the hook. Slowly America is waking up to his spell and recognizing his spins for what they are, empty rhetoric with false hope with just the right amount of poison to kill another million babies, not to mention the economy.

Kangaroo wrote:
Australia is a far better place to be...

Overcome Evil wrote:
My vote will be a write in vote for "Ron Paul."

Overcome Evil wrote:
3.5 million manufacturing jobs vanished under the McCain-Kemp-Bush policy of unilateral disarmament in the trade wars being waged against America.

Wayne wrote:
If you think a Country that hates God, hates prayer, embraces murder of inocent unborn babies, embraces sexual perversion, prides itself in racism, promotes greed, and arrogance, then you are indeed delusional!

Wayne wrote:
Now, show me how America is the best Country in the world ...

Wayne wrote:
I am familiar with Rev. Wright and his ministry, and while I am probably not on the same wave as he is theologically speaking, I would not classify him a racist.

I do wonder however if Obama should be let off so easy. I understand that Oprah Winfrey actually left the same church specifically because of Wright’s open ethnic hostility. It would seem that Obama was using the church as a political tool.

Vigilante wrote:
And, true Christians don't murder and maim. Any sort of "well-intentions" or willing ignorance does not excuse such sin.
Also, soldiers in the regime must give 100% allegiance and unconditional obedience to their superiors. This is totally antichrist!

Vigilante wrote:
Maybe the so-called Christians in Iraq were slaughtered by the American so-called Christians?

AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:
I'm now waiting for Satanic-"Vaticanus"-Manuscripts-Sympathizing/Roman-"Catholic"-Cultic Coddling Wheaton College,
The "Jesuit" infiltrated, compromised and theologically desensitized Moody Bible Institute,
even NASB/NASV Compromising BOB JONES UNIVERSITY and the rest of the World's Anti-Semetic/Anti-Christian/Anti-Authorized-Biblical-Literal "APOSTATES" !

Neil wrote:
JP, I'm fine; glad to be of service. I fished around that website you mentioned some weeks ago but couldn't find the debates you referred to. Anyhow, I have to mind my time on extended debates, whether debating Christians or atheists.

www.trinitylectures.org/MP3_downloads.php