""The question does not involve the books of the Old and New Testaments which we regard as canonical; these the Roman Catholics also accept.

Nor does it involve all apocryphal writings; there are some which the Roman Catholics reject no less than we, such as III and IV Esdras, III and IV Maccabees, or the prayer of Manassas.

But we are concerned with Tobit, Judith, Baruch, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, I and II Maccabees, and the additions to Esther and Daniel, which the Roman Catholics include among the canonical writings. We exclude them, not that they are without many true and pious elements, but that they lack the marks of the canonical books."

"The apocryphal books are so called not because the authors of the books are unknown - there are canonical works whose authors are not known and apocryphal ones whose authors are - nor because they are read only privately, and not in public [worship]; some of them are indeed read in public.

They are so called either because they were kept out of the chest in which the sacred writings were preserved, as Epiphanius and Augustine supposed, or because their authority was unclear and suspect and therefore their use was restricted, that is, the church did not read them for the purpose of establishing ecclesiastical dogmas, as Jerome says in his preface to the Proverbs of Solomon;

or, which is the more truthful explanation, because they are of doubtful and obscure origin, and the obscurity was not cleared up by those through whose testimony the authority of Scripture came to us, as Augustine says (City of God 5.24 [15.23])."

I remember they got him to sing one of his songs at the funeral of Princess Diana. I thought then how far the British establishment was from God. Scripture and moral standards. We surely win the title of the U.K. of Sodom and Gomorrah.

You appear to be more Scots than I am. I was born and bred in Scotland, but have come to consider myself as beyond any nationalistic roots. Thus I call myself Christian, - as opposed to Scottish. A cosmopolite rather than specifically ethnic. I guess thats one of the reasons I didn't accept the so called Scottish Parliament. Besides the fact that since I was 17 years old, (long time ago) I've been bouncing all around this globe.

Oi winna ca` ye a colleen agin, "lassie" - or should I say "quine."???
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The fact that 9/11, Freewiller, Yamil, JD et al, post heresy, I see as being an opportunity to post the Truth, in response to their ignorance.

This should bring us to a serious and even robust witness and Testimony of True Biblical Reformed Doctrines.

If we deter the heretics from coming to the board, then are we not preventing the True Christian Doctrines from being shared, against these heresies.

As Paul Said

1Cor11:19 "For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you"

2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the LORD THAT BOUGHT THEM, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Sounds like your Democrats are the party of dubious moral standards.

Here in Britain All three parties, Cons, Lab and of course the anarchists, - Lib Dems; Have all got dubious standards.

It seems more about gaining votes, than bothering about moral values in the politics of Britain and Europe.

Don't you find that there seems to be an incredible blockage in the Arminian/Freewiller types, which completely prevents them from straight forward Biblical understanding.

It's frustrating.

But it is the WAY.

Matt 7:21ff The Laodicean church at Revs 3......etc. Illustrates the blindness of many attending church.

They come to church! - But they can't seem to come to Christ.

If the Lord can/will do this to Israel to preserve the Elect......

Rom 11:7 "What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and THE REST WERE BLINDED."

Trust the United Kingdom of Sodom and Gomorrah to allow such an abomination as this.

No wonder the church is shrinking in this country; - And God Himself is withdrawing gradually.

NO I'm Not.

What is missing in this communication is Michael's continued thinking.

Thus to be more accurate he really says.
"So what should we do? May I suggest we humbly return to Scripture..... and read it MY WAY which is far more accurate than your way."

Thus reading between the lines we perceive the true nature of his convictions.

There is no doubt that the Arminian religion, elevates the position of the mortal sinner, to a height beyond that which is taught in Scripture.

Thus we can see why the Canons of Dort dismiss this theological aberration as heresy. It is the same error as Pelagianism and Semi-Pelagianism and has been around for many centuries.

Then
says
"...but I have had the privledge of hearing various preachers who love the Bible and preach in such a way..."

Michael here is doing the age old, and arrogant, way of establishing the one to "raise himself" egotistically above others.
Thus we can observe the lack of humility in his post and conviction about himself.

Thus we can observe the Arminian type of sinful arrogance, which raises the creature above iniquity, - and correspondingly lowers the Sovereignty of God to mortal equivalence.

The distinct lack of humility is always prominent in the fruit of the Arminian heretics. The egotism displayed is so far short, of true Christian testimony, that the Pharisee is more obviously in view.

Halloween

"c.1745, Scottish shortening of Allhallow-even "Eve of All Saints, last night of October" (1556), the last night of the year in the old Celtic calendar, where it was Old Year's Night, a night for witches. Another pagan holiday given a cursory baptism and sent on its way. Hallowmas "All-saints" is first attested 1389."