Great Sermon! Suffering tribulation today, tomorrow or in the past has absolutely nothing to do with the timing of the Rapture. Men will wax worse and worse and Christians will suffer more as the Day of Christ approaches.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall WAX WORSE AND WORSE, deceiving, and being deceived.
The pre-tribulation rapture is not an escapist teaching. It simply points out that Daniel's 70th Week is not for the Church; it is for the nation of Israel.
Sorry you were so offended by the title but the message speaks the truth in love. A "hoax" is a malicious deception. Getting people's eyes off of the coming of Jesus to looking for the Mark, the Beast, the anti-Christ, 144,000, the Two Witnesses is wicked, deceptive and a hoax. Sorry, but I am sure that all the men you mentioned would consider what I have said as a hoax too.
The Audio Title was Insulting Where's the love Pastor Stauffer? When a supposed brother in Christ refers to the view of the pre-wrath rapture as something as that of a "hoax" and a "lie" is deeply insulting to me as a Christian who used to hold the pre-tribulation view. Men like; Charles Cooper, Bob Van Kampen, Charles Swann, Marvin Rosenthal, Vincent Sawyer, and Zach Poonen have copiously referenced Holy Scripture to lay out a sound defense of the timing of the catching up of the Bride of Christ just before the wrath of God. They all teach patiently, lovingly, and all exhort and admonish Christian believers to search the Scriptures to verify the things claimed.
I simply do not have the faith to believe in a pre-tribulation rapture after studying. These men have laid out such a Scripturally convincing case for the timing of the catching up of the saints.
Something Zach Poonen said still shakes me. Pastor Poonen said something like, Nobody but Christians in England and America believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. He continued, Christians everywhere else who are being imprisoned, butchered and slaughtered for their faith in Jesus Christ DON'T believe in a pre-tribulation rapture.
Where is their escape from great tribulation Pastor Stauffer? Get ready American brethren. Wake up. Tribulation is comin
Great Sermon! Brother Andrew, what a true message for us today. We truly should have this longing and thirst for our Lord and Savior. I pray we will apply this to our hearts. Amen and amen.
Great Sermon! Ronda:
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Great Sermon! Thank you for uploading your sermons here! I have multiple sclerosis and am a "shut-in". I appreciated your excellent sermon and am thankful there are still some preachers teaching the truth of the bible, rightly divided, and mentioning the rapture. It's becoming a rarity now days and as apostasy grows more and more it's harder to find the truth spoken. I'll be listening to more of your sermons!
Question I listened to this message and wanted to ask you a question. You mentioned in your message that a person can sit in a church building and this doesn't produce godliness. Only obedience to the Word of God when rightly divided does. In John 4:21,23 the Lord Jesus said,"Woman, believe me,the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Our location is not important to the Lord. If that is so, and the building can not produce godliness;how can you say if a person chooses not to go to this building that they are now ungodly?