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“Diversity and inclusion is a top priority for us and we look forward to making more programming announcements in the coming months, with projects featuring LGBTQ storylines, characters, and actors,” Hallmark said in a recent statement.


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News Item7/24/2020 12:34 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
John, I'm not seeing Scripture saying "ye" is referring to the religious leaders, nor that it was them that he meant should be gathering the people as a hen gathers her chicks. He said "I" would have gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks, referring to himself, and Jerusalem's rejection of him with "ye would not" That included the people, who wanted Barrabas freed. I agree he shed tears over seeing the 70 AD destruction, such destruction a result of the rejection, otherwise known as "ye would not." I know we won't be coming to agreement on this, but grateful for civil conversation.
Bro Mike, there is one thing we can be fully agreed on, and this is far more important: that when Jesus came unto his own, his own received him not. That is, most received him not. Some DID receive him, and these were saved and became children of God through faith. We were both saved and became children of God through faith in Jesus Christ. The gospel calls men to trust in Christ; those who do so are saved, those who do not are not saved. The gospel must so portray Christ as to give men an opportunity to trust him in the correct way; and if they do so, they will be saved.
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News Item7/24/2020 11:56 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
Hi Mike, we've spoken of this before a couple of times, but never a problem to me, as repetition is helpful.
Firstly, who is the "ye" referring to? "Ye would not". Not the people, who are like sheep without a shepherd, but the spiritual leaders and rabbis, who would not fulfil their calling and gather the people as a hen gathers her chicks.
The question: why did he shed tears over Jerusalem?
Certainly not because he was powerless to do something about it. He can turn the hearts of kings. He can save an unlikely wretch like me.
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John, I'm not seeing Scripture saying "ye" is referring to the religious leaders, nor that it was them that he meant should be gathering the people as a hen gathers her chicks. He said "I" would have gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks, referring to himself, and Jerusalem's rejection of him with "ye would not" That included the people, who wanted Barrabus freed. I agree he shed tears over seeing the 70 AD destruction, such destruction a result of the rejection, otherwise known as "ye would not." I know we won't be coming to agreement on this, but grateful for civil conversation.
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News Item7/24/2020 10:08 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Tim can answer in his own way. As for me, my Bible says Jesus said how often would have I gathered you.....but ye *would not.* He didn't say ye *could not* because ye are not my people because I didn't choose you to be. Question remains, why did he shed tears over Jerusalem?
Hi Mike, we've spoken of this before a couple of times, but never a problem to me, as repetition is helpful.

Firstly, who is the "ye" referring to? "Ye would not". Not the people, who are like sheep without a shepherd, but the spiritual leaders and rabbis, who would not fulfil their calling and gather the people as a hen gathers her chicks.

The question: why did he shed tears over Jerusalem?

Certainly not because he was powerless to do something about it. He can turn the hearts of kings. He can save an unlikely wretch like me. No, it was not that. I am giving you mine honest opinion here, bro. I think it was due to foreseeing the impending disaster which would come upon the holy city in AD70 and the awful atrocities that would occur during the siege and afterwards. And being fully human, he was affected by that sight, even though it was the prophesied will of God.

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News Item7/24/2020 9:42 AM
Ladybug  Find all comments by Ladybug
Concerning 'would not'- is in the present tense, meaning it is a continuous action. No one will ever come, period. "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day" John 6:44. It isn't possible for sinners to come, it's the Father who draws them, not the sinners free will or decision. All hate God, all love darkness and will not come (present tense, meaning a continuous action) to the light.
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News Item7/24/2020 9:39 AM
James Thomas  Find all comments by James Thomas
Good question Mike. Here's also something worth considering.

Psalm 56
8 Thou tellest my wanderings: put thou my tears into thy bottle: are they not in thy book?
9 When I cry unto thee, then shall mine enemies turn back: this I know; for God is for me.

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HEB 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Both had tears yet One was accepted and the other rejected.

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News Item7/24/2020 9:30 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
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What you are doing is vainly imagining that the Lord Jesus comes into Jerusalem, both sees and knows that the Jews will reject him (even though he is their Messiah), and he start crying because he is so sad that God will have to punish them for their unbelief, and he doesn't want God to punish them and send them to hell, he wants God to save them. But God won't save them unless they believe in his Son. And so he weeps, because he knows they will not believe. He is upset for them, and can do nothing about it.
What dreadful theology! It is disgraceful! It is putting the great and sovereign God into a little box and putting sinners in charge of him, to do and to will according to the sinner's pleasure.
Nay lad, you're batting on such a sticky wicket you will find it hard to extricate yourself.
My Bible tells me that Jesus WILL save HIS people from THEIR sins. Not 'might' or 'will try to' or 'hopes' but WILL. Hallelujah! Deep joy!
Tim can answer in his own way. As for me, my Bible says Jesus said how often would have I gathered you.....but ye *would not.* He didn't say ye *could not* because ye are not my people because I didn't choose you to be. Question remains, why did he shed tears over Jerusalem?
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News Item7/24/2020 5:20 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Mark: check. Avoid: check. Have no company: roger. All systems check. Ready for takeoff.
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News Item7/24/2020 2:29 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
The compassionate Savior who wept over Jerusalem was Jehovah who ordered the complete destruction of the Canaanites. Was He a hypocrite?
Tim, your foundational theology is that which gives you an incorrect view of the Lord Jesus Christ.

What you are doing is vainly imagining that the Lord Jesus comes into Jerusalem, both sees and knows that the Jews will reject him (even though he is their Messiah), and he start crying because he is so sad that God will have to punish them for their unbelief, and he doesn't want God to punish them and send them to hell, he wants God to save them. But God won't save them unless they believe in his Son. And so he weeps, because he knows they will not believe. He is upset for them, and can do nothing about it.

What dreadful theology! It is disgraceful! It is putting the great and sovereign God into a little box and putting sinners in charge of him, to do and to will according to the sinner's pleasure.

Nay lad, you're batting on such a sticky wicket you will find it hard to extricate yourself.

My Bible tells me that Jesus WILL save HIS people from THEIR sins. Not 'might' or 'will try to' or 'hopes' but WILL. Hallelujah! Deep joy!

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News Item7/23/2020 5:20 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
For as his name is, so is he; Nabal is his name, and folly is with him.
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News Item7/23/2020 4:39 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
Same old tactics, huh, John? Attack, attack, attack. No problem. Go back to your smug little world of omniscient correctness. Just another Nabal, “for he is such a son of Belial, that a man cannot speak to him.”
Tim, it is because there are plenteous people like you in the churches today, that I never recommend anyone to attend, not even when they get converted. I believe firmly that almost every church today is dangerous to a child of God, because of the mixture of wheat and tares, lack of care over membership, legalistic tendencies, ecumenical involvements, women in the pulpits or in leadership, unbiblical practices, sheep stealing, doctrinal errors, lack of strength on current issues, lackadaisical attitude towards sin, and so on.

Now you are talking about me "living in a smug little world of omniscient correctness". Ha! I am the one who is changing day by day, growing and learning, doing things differently, conforming myself to scripture.

It is YOU who says, "My word is right, my doctrine is sound, my practice is perfect, you must listen to me and do what I say, or me and my IFB mates will laugh at you and call you all sorts of names.

Eh?

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News Item7/23/2020 4:25 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Same old tactics, huh, John? Attack, attack, attack. No problem. Go back to your smug little world of omniscient correctness. Just another Nabal, “for he is such a son of Belial, that a man cannot speak to him.”
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News Item7/23/2020 4:23 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
What is it all about?
Maybe like having others analyze whatever it is that your have or haven't done or said to death.
God, help me if I can see it or think I see it in others I can be so guilty of the same kind of thing may self
Where is the forest? Gotta put that ol' chain saw to work again.... so I can see to love others, even if they be packing to shot me, with the same love Jesus loved me with.
Love you my brother gotta start ,working on cooking supper.
My amazing brother in Christ,

I fully understood your last paragraph, but none of the rest, sorry. Perhaps it is well.

Mike NY, thank you for wise words, I think you have the answer, bro. The human race is very diverse in their emotional make up. And to claim that all Christians ought to behave in a certain way, like sausages coming out the factory, is tantamount to legalism.

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News Item7/23/2020 4:06 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
It's probably a good thing God doesn't determine the quality of our service based on how much or how little emotion we display in our prayer life. Follow me, he said. Didn't mention whether they should or should not shed tears. If you love me obey my commands, he said. Sort of puts tears or lack of them in perspective. The promotion of tears, or the promotion of tearlessness is human stuff. He didn't make us to be the same, and he allows both a place.
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News Item7/23/2020 3:43 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
John wrote, “ That is most helpful. I too have wept many times in prayer over the years, and it was involuntary. That is, the tears just came out of mine eyes, just as the prayers came out of my mouth. It was not something I could turn on or off like a tap.”
Apparently we were both composing our comments simultaneously. I have never posted one word on this thread that would indicate to a reasonable person that tears should be turned on and off by anyone but the Holy Ghost. Please don’t twist my words. Thank you.
Tim, the way you convo with me causes me to wonder if you really do weep in prayer for others. It seems like you portray yourself as a genuine Christian, with great compassion, just like Jesus, yet towards your brother, whom you call a "dry-eyed automaton" it is like being assaulted by a lunatic.

Now I realise that is just how IFB's behave, with all the Yee Ha and psychological manipulation, laughing your head off with all your IFB mates, but really, do you believe that is normal Christianity. I believe it is abnormal. And yet still you claim, "I am okay, my doctrine is okay, my worship is good, I've no need to change a thing, etc."

BTW, I was talking to James about the tap, not you.

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News Item7/23/2020 3:17 PM
Michael Hranek | from outside the Clinic  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
John UK wrote:
It seems odd to me. Weeping for that sinner one minute, the next you've killed him. What's it all about?
What is it all about?

Maybe like having others analyze whatever it is that your have or haven't done or said to death.

God, help me if I can see it or think I see it in others I can be so guilty of the same kind of thing may self

Where is the forest? Gotta put that ol' chain saw to work again.... so I can see to love others, even if they be packing to shot me, with the same love Jesus loved me with.

Love you my brother gotta start ,working on cooking supper.

Dr. Tim
NO! Absolutely not
and your post reminds me of a man who came up to me today at the clinic telling me how his brother who is a Baptist preacher told him God was a mass murderer (he may have just said, killer). It was an interesting conversation that led to a wonderful opportunity to witness to him and give him tracts he could take home and read away from distractions.... he even let me pray for him, Praise God

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News Item7/23/2020 3:14 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
The compassionate Savior who wept over Jerusalem was Jehovah who ordered the complete destruction of the Canaanites. Was He a hypocrite?
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News Item7/23/2020 2:57 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Brother Michael,

Sure, there are plenty of sinners in the Bible, but not many who washed the feet of Jesus with their hair. Oh, perhaps one. Amen. My guess is she loved Jesus and became a disciple.

In 2 Peter 2 you will read about a whole different type of sinner, and how Jesus spoke to them, through the apostle Peter. Not quite such a good result in their case. Nor with Alexander the coppersmith. And plenty of others.

Bro, you are just going to have to get more balanced in your thinking, or you will fall over.

You missed all the debates about gun toting for protection. If you are one such carryer, here is the scenario. You are weeping in prayer for local sinners and your carpet is wet; but one of these local sinners comes in through the kitchen door with a gun in his hand and points it at you. What do you do? Continue weeping and praying, or do you pull out your automatic and fire several shots into the heart area? Virtually everyone here (all from America) say that they would kill the intruder.

It seems odd to me. Weeping for that sinner one minute, the next you've killed him. What's it all about?

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News Item7/23/2020 2:56 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
John wrote, “ That is most helpful. I too have wept many times in prayer over the years, and it was involuntary. That is, the tears just came out of mine eyes, just as the prayers came out of my mouth. It was not something I could turn on or off like a tap.”
Apparently we were both composing our comments simultaneously. I have never posted one word on this thread that would indicate to a reasonable person that tears should be turned on and off by anyone but the Holy Ghost. Please don’t twist my words. Thank you.
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News Item7/23/2020 2:46 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Luke 19:41
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Jesus wept over Jerusalem. (Try to explain that away, as you so often do, as if it means something entirely different from what it says.) If my weeping for the lost is humanism, then Christ’s must have been humanism as well.
God said if we’d weep—not work up crocodile tears, but genuinely have broken hearts over lost sinners—we would reap, see many sinners saved (there’s more than one grain in a sheaf). I believe God, first of all because God cannot lie, and secondly because I have experienced firsthand the fulfillment of Psalm 126:5-6. If you don’t believe God, that’s your problem.
To me it seems pointless to debate this issue any further. I would much rather obey God than try to prove that I’m “right” and can out-argue the next fellow. That is a course of action rooted in pride and carnality, and while it may please the flesh, it in no way pleases God. So go ahead, have the last word—but remember that God’s Word will last regardless of what you say.
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News Item7/23/2020 2:29 PM
Michael Hranek | from outside the Clinic  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Wow!

Wow! Bust into an after meeting dinner party univited. Weep over Jesus' feet, wash them with tears, dry them with long hair and get what?

Grief (a real thorough analysis if you are even close to doing it right in their eyes) from the Pharisees
and Thankfully, gracious forgiveness from our Lord and Savior, who knows He is being touched by a sinner of all things

Love you all

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