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FRONT PAGE  |  10/20/2020
SUNDAY, JUL 5, 2020  |  23 comments
Lingering Distrust in Public Health Measures
For those Texans, trust in government is gone, if it was there to begin with, and that includes some of the state’s top leaders. On Tuesday, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick of Texas declared himself tired of Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease doctor. “I don’t need his advice anymore,” Mr. Patrick said.

That sentiment was echoed outside a popular, newly opened hamburger restaurant in Wolfforth, Texas, just outside Lubbock, where even Mr. Abbott, a Republican, came under harsh criticism. “It seems like he’s been influenced by Fauci and the left,” said Mark Stewart, who sat with his wife and children and several other families at a gathering for locals who home school.

None in the 18-person group, which squeezed around several outside tables, wore masks or made an attempt to stay distant. “This is the first time we’ve met each other and we don’t care,” said Mr. Stewart’s wife, Tamera, ...


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News Item7/17/2020 9:54 AM
Ladybug  Find all comments by Ladybug
Birx admits what most already knew
https://youtu.be/GdN--11btc0
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News Item7/14/2020 9:38 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
https://tinyurl.com/y9hyd8hf (... Many of the statements the White House criticizes Fauci for were based on the best available data at the time and were widely echoed by Trump and other officials)

https://tinyurl.com/ybtqpht7 ( How to talk about conspiracy theories without starting an argument)

Happy Bastille Day

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News Item7/7/2020 11:51 AM
Ladybug  Find all comments by Ladybug
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/cdc-admits-covid-19-antibody-tests-are-wrong-half-time-virus-isnt-deadly#comment_stream
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News Item7/7/2020 9:33 AM
Ladybug  Find all comments by Ladybug
Watch this to see the ties to the Gates foundation and the nursing home deaths from this virus in certain states, someone needs to pay-https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3155810891153042&id=1109093812491437. -"all these people should be in prison", I agree
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News Item7/7/2020 8:58 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Guidelines are fluid. Recommendations vary according to needs of the day. No human to human transfer of infection. Highly contagious. There is little danger. Many will die. The hospitals will be overwhelmed. Don't buy a mask, they won't protect. Wear a mask. Stay 3 feet apart. Stay 6 feet apart. Sunshine kills the virus. Close the beaches. Walking on the beach is safe. Sitting on the beach is unsafe. Vitamin D, the sunshine vitamin, is found to be low in Covid patients. Stay safe indoors, everyone.
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News Item7/7/2020 6:58 AM
Ladybug  Find all comments by Ladybug
Obviously Trump knows the best way to alleviate a virus is to let it run its course throughout society. The CDC has a globalist mindset.
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News Item7/7/2020 6:38 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Dr. Megan Ranney, Dr. Dara Kass and Dr. Esther Choo wrote:
....
On April 30, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s 63-page draft of recommended guidelines for opening America leaked to the press.
https://tinyurl.com/y9ahnkc5
The CDC’s guide, which had already been submitted to the White House, reflected the current state of the science on the coronavirus and how to prevent it from spreading in communities once lockdown measures end. If implemented, it would have offered some of the most precise guidance the public had received since the COVID-19 pandemic began.

Unfortunately, those recommendations will not be implemented. The guide was shelved by the White House before it was ever officially published, ....

excerpt from, " Trump rejected the CDC's first coronavirus reopening America guide. The second is useless."

https://tinyurl.com/ycbqzkva

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News Item7/6/2020 2:57 PM
HerbalMama  Find all comments by HerbalMama
So are we going to wear masks hence forth during every flu or cold season? There is someone out there that could possibly catch something and die from it. Seeing as your healthy average adult is home to 10-15 viruses daily I see no reason to make covid19 the exception. We've all developed a nasty and unhealthy case of germ phobia. It's selfish of you to demand that others put their health at risks for you. 100+degrees is much too hot for a mask. Charity of any sort cannot be forced or mandated. There is no scriptural warrant for such. You would do well to worry about yourself and quit peeking under your neighbor's doormat. Your assumption about the youth is quite wrong.
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News Item7/5/2020 2:11 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
ladybug wrote:
right Mike, i've seen that disclaimer too. The pro-mask crowd says it's to cover the manufacturer
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Any excuse will do, I guess. The best mask promoted for general use, is the N95, if you can find it. Next best the surgical. Next the homemade cloth. I have a couple N95s purchased a couple years ago at Home Depot. Why there? It's a particulate mask, for use in such things as sanding paint, drywall, etc. It says so right on the packaging. It has an exhalation vent, for easier exhalation of moisture, obviously. If folks want to believe that a virus you can't see unless you have an electron microscope, cannot ride ordinary breath vapor through the relatively huge holes in the mask, then use of it is not for physical safety, but for psychological comfort.
If some wish to wear it, fine, but not because some politician who wouldn't know a virus from a basketball says it's to keep you or others safe.
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News Item7/5/2020 12:11 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
right Mike, i've seen that disclaimer too. The pro-mask crowd says it's to cover the manufacturer

“We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.”
"At present, there is no direct evidence (from studies on COVID-19 and in healthy people in the community) on the
effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people in the community to prevent infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19."
Source: WHO June 6th

there will be a 'vaccine'-"Kennedy Jr said that Dr. Fauci owns a number of vaccine patents, including one that is being trialed to fight coronavirus by some of America's biggest vaccine manufacturers.
The Gates Foundation invests in Dr. Fauci's NIAID as part of its Decade of Vaccines program which aims to introduce a Global Vaccine Action Plan."

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News Item7/5/2020 12:11 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Neil wrote:
Of course, so why don't you care about them? Just let 'em die for the sake of the herd.
The healthy should wear masks to reduce the risk further. It costs little, even if they do no actual good. Try being unselfish.
Yes the older generation is considered useless eaters by the young. Their lives are expendable. Now I am not talking about my loved ones, but those that exist around us. I have just about every category for those who are doomed if they get this virus. And my wife is not far behind me.

What society does is they choose a side and then follow those instructions. IOW, I am not an epidemiologist so I cannot make a wise decision based on the knowledge I have. I don’t trust anyone who gives us advice, but I follow the advice of those that I happen to agree with. Trust is never a thought process. If it makes sense to me, okay, if not no.

I personally wear a mask whenever I am inside a store or restaurant. I try and socially distance and I try to wash my hands whenever returning from a public place. Because of the way the young are treating this, I believe that sooner or later I will get this virus unless there is some vaccine that comes along. We have also had no family get-togethers since this started.

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News Item7/5/2020 12:01 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Our church is having safe spaced out services now. Masks while singing, no hand shaking, etc. Not awful, but certainly not pleasant. Ok with most, annoying to types of my ilk. Masks provided if you don't have one. A box of surgical-type masks on the table in the foyer. Last week I picked the box up to read what was on it. (I read cereal boxes, too) It said "These masks are not for the prevention of infection." But these days feeling good about doing something is apparently more important than what is being done.
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News Item7/5/2020 11:02 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Face masks should be used only by individuals who have symptoms of respiratory infection such as coughing, sneezing, or, in some cases, fever. “
Face masks should also be worn by healthcare workers, by individuals who are taking care of or are in close contact with people who have respiratory infections, or otherwise as directed by a doctor.
(Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA); April 21, 2020
“The evidence is not sufficiently strong to support widespread use of facemasks as a protective measure against COVID-19. However, there is enough evidence to support the use of facemasks for short periods of time by particularly vulnerable individuals when in transient higher risk situations.”
New England Journal of Medicine
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News Item7/5/2020 11:01 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
ladybug wrote:
how does a healthy person not wearing a mask put the high risk who do wear a mask at risk? does the high risk mask only work if the healthy wear one too? kinda like vaccines, if you get a vaccine and i don't, yours won't work?!?
I am 'selfish' if i choose not to wear a mask, even though i am healthy? crazy logic. I would tell the 'at risk' to boost their immune system with lots of zinc and vitamin c...that's how 'selfish' i am....
Ongoing absurd indeed
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News Item7/5/2020 10:57 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
ladybug wrote:
how does a healthy person not wearing a mask put the high risk who do wear a mask at risk? ...
I don't think my explaining this would convince you.
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News Item7/5/2020 10:55 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
how does a healthy person not wearing a mask put the high risk who do wear a mask at risk? does the high risk mask only work if the healthy wear one too? kinda like vaccines, if you get a vaccine and i don't, yours won't work?!?
I am 'selfish' if i choose not to wear a mask, even though i am healthy? crazy logic. I would tell the 'at risk' to boost their immune system with lots of zinc and vitamin c...that's how 'selfish' i am....
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News Item7/5/2020 10:51 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
ladybug wrote:
the 'at risk' are the elderly with underlying health conditons,
Of course, so why don't you care about them? Just let 'em die for the sake of the herd.

The healthy should wear masks to reduce the risk further. It costs little, even if they do no actual good. Try being unselfish.

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News Item7/5/2020 10:50 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
the 'at risk' are the elderly with underlying health conditons, or those with compromised immune systems and pre-existng health conditons of any age; they don't talk much about the role of a healthy immune system in all this, or even how it works to combat viruses, which are ever-present.

If you are sick and wear a mask, and i am healthy and don't wear one, why would i need to wear one? does your mask only work if i wear one too?

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News Item7/5/2020 10:45 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
ladybug wrote:
Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, population immunity, or social immunity) is a form of indirect protection ..
Where one stands depends upon where one sits: It's easy to talk of "herd immunity" when you're not among the high-risk group. And like all scientific theories, it's fallible.

Even the idol-worshipping Japanese, long before this pandemic, have worn masks when in public in order to not spread infections to others. Why aren't so-called Christians this considerate?

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News Item7/5/2020 10:38 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, population immunity, or social immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that occurs when a large percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections, thereby providing a measure of protection for individuals who are not immune. In a population in which a large proportion of individuals possess immunity, such people being unlikely to contribute to disease transmission, chains of infection are more likely to be disrupted, which either stops or slows the spread of disease. The greater the proportion of immune individuals in a community, the smaller the probability that non-immune individuals will come into contact with an infectious individual, helping to shield non-immune individuals from infection.

so, demanding social distancing and lockdown is only making matters worse, it's the direct opposite of what we should be doing. They know this, they aren't stupid. Let it spread, it will weaken more as it spreads more. Those who get it and recover, which they don't talk about much, have antibodies against it. yet, they continue to test those who've recovered, which results in a positive test....don't be fooled by their #'s.

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