NeedHim wrote: As the Spirit, doesnât through grace, drag man to Christ against his will, but because it changes menâs hearts so that they come most freely, being made willing by His grace.
"Those whom God hath predestinated unto life, He is pleased in His appointed, and accepted time, effectually to call, by His Word and Spirit, out of that state of sin and death in which they are by nature, to grace and salvation by Jesus Christ; enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God; taking away their heart of stone, and giving to them a heart of flesh; renewing their wills, and by His almighty power determining them to that which is good, and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ; yet so as they come most freely, being made willing by His grace."
Grace is a remarkable and wonderful thing. Praise God for his amazing grace!
Billy Graham: Servant of Rome, Not Servant of Christ /Pastor Shaun Willcock, a faithful servant of Christ - Excerpt . . What was Billy Graham?
"He was, at the very least, a deceived man, and a false preacher of a false gospel. But there is more to the Billy Graham story, as shown above: a sinister aspect, the evidence pointing to him being a deliberate, but clandestine, servant of the Papal Antichrist. Was he a Jesuit agent, or merely a tool in the hands of the Jesuits? Their tool he most certainly was, and a willing one at that who knew what he was doing for Rome â all the evidence given in this article, and much more besides, proves this beyond all shadow of doubt. But whether or not he was a Jesuit himself, acting under orders and pretending to be a Baptist minister, we do not know at this time, and we may never know.
Either way, however, he did more to promote the false âgospelâ of Roman Catholicism than any other âEvangelicalâ has ever done; and he promoted so many other false doctrines, sinful activities, etc., that no true Christian should ever, in any sense, hold him up as having been a great man of God â for this he most definitely was not. He served Antichrist, not Christ. And he did so knowingly, deliberately, and without any conscience about it."
Sojourner, nobody is denying that Romanism is a concoction of the devil. Nobody is denying that the Grahams have been and are wrong for yoking up with Rome. But sojourner your wonderfully âpureâ gospel does nothing if it isnât preached. If you arenât going to share the gospel at all, you are a raving hypocrite for condemning a man who has preached it to thousands, even if he is foolish and irresponsible in how he deals with those who respond to the invitation to receive Christ. If you arenât doing your job at all, you ought to shut up about someone else who is doing his job poorly.
MASS The mass is a mass of abominations, a mass of hell's own concocting, a crying insult against the Lord of glory. It is not to be spoken of in any terms but those of horror and destestation. Whenever I think of another sacrifice for sin being offered, by whomever it my be presented, I can only regard it as an infamous insult to the perfection of the Savior's work. - MTP Vol 12 pg. 561
Promoting the papal Antichrist's doctrine is not âdoing the work of an evangelistâ (2 Tim. 4:5)
Article: Billy Graham: Servant of Rome, Not Servant of Christ
By: Pastor Shaun Willcock, Gospel Minister / Bible Based Ministries â South Africa
From the Article:
In 1973, in his âKey Ì73âł crusade, Graham recommended Roman Catholic literature, especially a biography of the pope which contained hundreds of pages of Roman Catholic doctrine. This did not trouble Graham, who called it âa classic in devotion.â And in the same year he also participated in a Roman Catholic mass! â the central blasphemy of Rome. In fact, on 21 October 1973 he said that he preached in a Roman Catholic cathedral, and he said of the blasphemous sacrament of the mass that it âwas a very beautiful thing and certainly straight and clear in the gospel I believe.â
Think about this! And ask: if this man believed that the abomination of the popish mass was part of the true Gospel, then was he a ProtestantâŠor a closet Papist? ------- Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? 2 Chronicles 19:2
Citations: . The Revivalist, June-September 1989. . As quoted in An Open Letter to Dr. Billy Graham, by Wilson Ewin, 5 May 1992.
Hi Dr. Tim, thanks for helping me and believe me itâs been all I can do to let things go and keep posting but itâs been a growing and learning experience and God sent you on here with your comments that make me laugh and they ring true. Very encouraging, thanks.
Ladybug, you made a very cutting, nasty, and totally unwarranted remark about Dolores, and I had hoped that you would repent and apologize by now. Sojourner, it has now been NINE days since this thread began. Have YOU personally shared the gospel with at least one other person during that time? If not, why donât you get busy doing what God left you here to do?
Praise God when truth is shared in love, nât veiled, through humility. That I am what I am by His life changing grace, Alone & nothing of myself. Oâ how precious that is to the mind & soul!
As the grace of Rome, Pelagius & any other form of Semi- Pelagianism. That steers one away from what does scriptures tell us & teach us.
Whatâs ever so important is what scriptures tell us, what we willnât & canât do apart from Him, enabling one to be willing.
How theology affects our evanglisim, through our methodologies, being used in evangelism encounters!
As His Grace Alone is whatâs makes one willingly coming forth. As the Spirt, doesnât through grace, drag man to Christ against his will, but because it changes menâs hearts so that they come most freely, being made willing by His grace.
Thank You Lord, in nât being ashamed of Your glorious word, humbeling one, that apart from You, we all are worthy to be subjects & objects of Your Wrath. Oâ how precious grace is, when understood why itâs a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living & true God, who hates false doctrines, that perverts His Heavenly Character & Devine Truths amen!
"Popery is contrary to Christâs Gospel." - C. H. Spurgeon
"Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD?" 2 Chronicles 19:2
This is what passes for evangelism in the Graham camp . .
1) In 1983,Â The Florida CatholicÂ reported that 600 people were turned over to the Catholic Church from theÂ Orlando crusade.298Â "On the evening of June 9, 1982, the names of 2l00 inquirers were given to priests at Pope John XXIII SeminaryÂ in Weston, Massachusetts."299Â During the June 1992 Crusade in Philadelphia,
"[a]pproximately 1,200 Catholics in the Archdiocese and about 700 Catholics from elsewhere took steps...in response to Dr. Graham's 'altar calls.' The individuals...were referred to about 250 parishes, said sister Josephine Kase, I. H. M., Assistant Director of the Archdiocesan Office for EcumenicalÂ and Interreligious Affairs."300
Citation: 1) Excerpt from the Book: "Billy Graham and His Friends" by: Cathy Burns.
Dolores wrote: JohnUk, thatâs a good analogy and when scripture comes to mind it must be the Holy Spirit speaking and we need to be heeding what we hear. I like the fishing expeditions Dr.Tim brought out as well. Am I the only one that is seeing this new, mysterious virus as a wake up call from God to this world of darkness. It is seems even worse than any other. Affecting the Muslims annual pilgrimages to worship at a designated place as itâs been put off because of this place. This brings to mind the pestilence that Jesus quotes in Luke 21. Maybe,itâs because I have been interested in prophecy all these years of Bible Study. These things happening on earth bears watching as my friendâs grandma used to say about certain people., she or he bears watching.
Good morning Dolores, and amen we sure do need to heed what we hear; it is the test that Jesus really is our Lord.
As for the current state of coronavirus, it looks as though it is progressing, getting worse, and could well be a part of the endtime pestilence. Here in the UK we are ill-equipped to deal with it. And in China they are really struggling to deal with it.
JohnUk, thatâs a good analogy and when scripture comes to mind it must be the Holy Spirit speaking and we need to be heeding what we hear. I like the fishing expeditions Dr.Tim brought out as well. Am I the only one that is seeing this new, mysterious virus as a wake up call from God to this world of darkness. It is seems even worse than any other. Affecting the Muslims annual pilgrimages to worship at a designated place as itâs been put off because of this place. This brings to mind the pestilence that Jesus quotes in Luke 21. Maybe,itâs because I have been interested in prophecy all these years of Bible Study. These things happening on earth bears watching as my friendâs grandma used to say about certain people., she or he bears watching.
This is what passes for evangelism in the Graham camp . .
Billy Graham: Servant of Rome, Not Servant of Christ By: Pastor Shaun Willcock, Gospel Minister / Bible Based Ministries â South Africa
After Grahamâs death, I received an email from a lady in France, just one of the many thousands who from personal experience knew that Graham did, indeed, send Roman Catholics back to the Papal religion. She wrote: âI was a counsellor and follow-up worker at his 1986 crusade in Paris, and we had strict instructions that if someone had written âCatholicâ on the card they filled in after coming forward, we had to give their card to a Catholic church in their neighbourhood. I found that absolutely tragicâŠ. If, as you write, it was a deliberate ploy by the Roman Catholic cult, it worked. Very sad and disappointing. In fact, when I think about it, it reminds me of what Switzerland did during the Second World War, when it sent Jews fleeing the Nazi persecutions back to Germany!â Precisely. But of course, although those poor Jews were sent to their physical deaths, what Graham did was infinitely worse, in that he was guilty of entrenching his âconvertsâ in a religious system of spiritual death.
CES, I am glad you speak about Jesus regularly, but speaking about Jesus is not the same thing as sharing the gospel. By the way, you made at least five comments on what you assume to be my character. Isnât that a bit judgmental on your own part? Of course it is. Anyway, adios and good fishing.
Going against better judgement,Tim.I will answer your judgmental arrogance in this manner, My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is spoken about nearly every day by myself or a member of my family. I donât detect a very humble spirit in your demeanor, more of a scornful, prideful attitude towards those who you disagree with.Iâve come across it many times in my Christian journey. Good afternoon to you sir and goodbye.
Well, CES, by refusing to answer my question, you answered it quite eloquently. If you HAD shared the gospel with anyone during the past week, Iâm sure you wouldnât have hesitated to say so. Looks like we have another fisherman with dry nets trying to tell others the best way to fish.
Dr. Tim wrote: If not, what is the point of âdefendingâ what you donât even use?
I don't know why Doc but when I read that it reminded me of the man who buried his one in the ground, and when the Lord returned, he dug it up and presented it to the Lord and said, "Here it is, Lord, perfectly intact." And the Lord was most displeased.
ladybug-thank you for your timely concern and advice.I should have left off posting last week, but then some came on with erroneous statements and I felt those needed addressed. Anywho, I am finished here. Only the Lord can overcome the heresy and downright lies that have been perpetrated on this forum. Your recommendations of those preachers of the Free Sovereign Grace Gospel of Jesus Christ delighted my soul, them and a few others have blessed me mightily. God Bless you fellow pilgrim.
Dolores is void of any discernment, labeling those who expose the accursed gospel of the Grahams as 'judging'. Dolores follows the same pseudo jesus the Grahams follow[ed]. She isn't alone- this forum is rife with self righteous works-based folk who think something must be 'done' to get saved. This is the very thing addressed in Heb. 6:1-not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works. Dead works include the law keepers, the Arminian, the Calvinist who insist upon looking to 'self' for evidence of salvation, any and all 'works' sinners think they have to do. Romans 1:17 makes it clear, if your 'gospel' does NOT reveal the righteousness of God, you have no gospel. CES, I recommend you not waste time on this forum, deception cannot be reversed by any but God. Compromise is widespread, embracing those who hold to error is the norm. I have NO desire to engage anyone here, nor do I desire to waste time casting pearls. I recommend men truly called by God such as Gary Shepard, Tim James, Scott Price, Bill Parker, James Guyo, and Gary Byrd. These are sovereign grace preachers God used to bring me to solid truth. This is excellent-https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=6611925710 -by Randy Wages.