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FRONT PAGE  |  2/28/2020
THURSDAY, DEC 26, 2019  |  21 comments  |  1 commentary
Christianity Today and the problem with 'Christian Elitism'
Christianity Today editor Mark Galli’s “lofty” op-ed last week calling for President Trump’s removal from office touched off a firestorm of criticism and dissent from scores of evangelical leaders, and the backlash and debate have reached “critical mass” since its publication. Meanwhile, secular media immediately seized upon the CT editorial to argue that evangelical support for the president was finally crumbling under the weight of impeachment by the House of Representatives.

After all, when Christianity Today, the “flagship” magazine of evangelicals, founded by Billy Graham himself, turns against the president, then the long hoped for evangelical exodus from Trump must surely have finally commenced.

In reality, nothing could be further from the truth, as made clear by the Graham family itself. The great evangelist’s son, Franklin, divulged that his father “knew Donald Trump, believed in ...


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News Item12/27/19 5:28 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Issues of race are important to liberals.
"Race remains a potent and often divisive force in our society" said the previous president. He was right. Liberals need it as the divisive issue it is. Chaos and division is part of their agenda to maintain problems only they can "fix."
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News Item12/27/19 2:31 PM
Rob | Fresno County  Find all comments by Rob
I voted for Trump because of his VP pick.
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News Item12/27/19 12:52 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Gratuitously incendiary and divisive "Christian" op-eds like these make me suspect the writer has been blackmailed or bribed by Democrats using FBI or NSA surveillance, given their demonstrated track record on Trump, and given the ethical depravity evident in much of organized Christianity.
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News Item12/27/19 8:18 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Jim, if you are uncomfortable with racists, never, ever look in the mirror. You obviously eat, sleep, live, walk and breathe race, race, race, race, race 24 hours a day. And you STILL haven’t come up with one racist act or word from Donald Trump. Why don’t you put up or shut up?
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News Item12/27/19 7:22 AM
Rob | Fresno County  Find all comments by Rob
Without Christ everyone is a racist. When you get saved he will help you overcome. Everyone’s going to get judged for their secret thought life. If the Lord made a movie of your thought life the last two months of only the bad thoughts that you dwelled on would you want your family and friends to watch it?
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News Item12/27/19 6:30 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I think you have taken a gaff too far, Jim. Trump is less racist than your copious statements would lead us to believe about yourself.

No one likes every decision by a leader. It is the nature of a leader to direct or implement things that are to some against what they would have. That is the nature of this fallen world. Even what the Lord brings into our lives is occasionally uncomfortable. So I am glad to read that there are things you have appreciated about the President.

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News Item12/27/19 4:40 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Wayfarer pilgrim, even though you have no racist reasons for supporting Trump, and others may not have them either, still it is an important element of Trump's agenda. So, you would be supporting racist ideas even if that isn't your purpose.

I didn't realize Neil Gorsuch, was a person I would never support for Supreme Court appointment. He certainly maybe anti-abortion - but he is pro-money interests. Many of these judicial appointments, have elements that have nothing to do with being anti-abortion at all and Neil Gorsuch is certainly an example of this ❗ For example see:

https://tinyurl.com/thbtzht (Trump judges and nominees who have fought limits on campaign contributions or expenditures) part of a larger article on,

https://afj.org/our-work/judicial-selection/trumps-judges-on-the-issues

So while a judge maybe good on one particular issue that you support it could very well be very bad on an issue that you don't support.

So I like Trump support of Israel, I don't like Trump for his lack of support for Ukraine.

QC, Trump's history on race it's something that can't be ignored. David Duke likes him for that reason.

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News Item12/27/19 2:12 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Jim, in Christ these things you wave about disappear. Why do you continue to wave them? What racism? Only that built up by the liberal elites to whom you have been listening...you know, the ones who champion that untrue critical race theory which you've also championed.

Jim, there is one race...the human race...and everyone is a descendent of Adam and Noah.

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News Item12/27/19 1:56 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Serge Ricard wrote:
Obama’s Election: The Post-Racial America Myth

Despite his unimaginable elevation to the highest office the 44th President never deluded himself about the alleged retreat of racism. As he observed in his farewell speech in Chicago on January 10, 2017

There’s a second threat to our democracy—one as old as our nation itself. After my election, there was talk of a post-racial America. Such a vision, however well-intended, was never realistic. For race remains a potent and often divisive force in our society. I’ve lived long enough to know that race relations are better than they were ten, or twenty, or thirty years ago—you can see it not just in statistics, but in the attitudes of young Americans across the political spectrum.
But we’re not where we need to be. […]
Going forward, we must uphold laws against discrimination—in hiring, in housing, in education and the criminal justice system. That’s what our Constitution and highest ideals require. But laws alone won’t be enough. Hearts must change. --- Barack Obama, “Farewell Speech,” The Los Angeles Times, January 10, 2017.

https://tinyurl.com/ybectgd2

excerpt from, "The Trump Phenomenon and the Racialization of American Politics"

https://tinyurl.com/svzl587

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News Item12/27/19 12:03 AM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Texas  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
So Jim, you’re saying that those who support Trump are affiliated with White identity religion. Whether that be focus on the family, American family association, bible believing Christians who exercised their constitutional rights to vote Trump into office are now part of a white nationalist movement?
Say good night Gracie.
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News Item12/26/19 8:40 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
CNN Wire wrote:
....
In an editorial published Sunday, Christianity Today president Timothy Dalrymple said the magazine is “theologically conservative,” but still felt
https://tinyurl.com/yx3toqel
compelled to say “the alliance of American evangelism with this presidency has wrought enormous damage to Christian witness.”

“While the Trump administration may be well regarded in some countries, in many more the perception of wholesale evangelical support for the administration has made toxic the reputation of the Bride of Christ,” he wrote....

excerpt from, "Christianity Today Says It Saw Spike in Subscriptions After It Called for Trump’s Removal"

https://tinyurl.com/qmnoffp

Great news that Trump helped raise the subscription-base forChristianity Today❗ It is certainly an elite publication that doesn't muck around in the swamp of White Identity religion. 👿

Whatever his background is, wayfarer pilgrim, his editorial and his boss' which I have the URL for in this message are very good!

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News Item12/26/19 8:06 PM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Texas  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
Apparently Mark Galli was a Presbyterian pastor for 10 years, but then stepped over to becoming an Anglican( Episcopalian). So, of course he’s an elistist, his pedigree would be nothing but elitism. And No. he doesn’t know anyone who supported Trump, why should he. He’s the cool kid in the cafeteria. He makes fun of the poor slobs who eat bp&j sandwiches and work at joes tire barn after school. And as a lasting impression, he gets to still make fun of the poor slobs on the way to his golden parachute retirement plan. If he’s all about peace and reconciliation, then he’d keep his opinions to himself. But, he’s an Episcopalian, so don’t waste your verbiage , guys and gals, he ain’t worth it
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News Item12/26/19 7:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Vanessa Taylor wrote:
....
To be clear, CT isn't close to a "far left" or "progressive" magazine as Trump claims. In an interview with The Atlantic, Galli identified CT's audience as "moderate, center-right, and center-left evangelicals." It's long been a published hub for evangelical thought and is "vehemently anti-choice," as author and musician Mikel Jollett noted.
excerpt from, "Trump attacks 'Christianity Today' after magazine editor calls for his removal"

https://tinyurl.com/thh62xf

Apparently, Timothy, I haven't mentioned the article often enough!

https://tinyurl.com/y576t94t (Should Christians try to force the kingdom on others?)

It has some excellent links to commentary on dominionism I would suggest this would be also excellent reading material

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News Item12/26/19 2:47 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Sorry, folks, he didn’t mean “elite.” Autocorrect changed it to that from “effete.”
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News Item12/26/19 2:14 PM
Douglas Fir | Land of Pleasant Living  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
I hate to add anything that would help promote recognition of Christianity Today magazine or website, since its readership is probably less than Motor Trend or Crotchet Today magazines.
But...I cannot resist commenting on the truth revealed here, that there is an 'elite class' of evangelicals who some might say are Liberals in Sheep's Clothing, or Liberal Wannabe's.
I can even imagine the editor thinking up this editorial at a cocktail party with a bunch of Dems and others suffering from TDS-Trump Derangement Syndrome, and wanting to please them, he thought up this article.
In the end, Truth Will Out, and just like the impeachment has improved President Trump's rating in many polls, it will backfire.
A previous comment noted that this guy must think of the majority of President Trump's voters as uneducated..yes! That is exactly what makes him feel better--that he can put them down for not being as educated (that is, in university learning, not in real workaday life).
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News Item12/26/19 1:44 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
From Article::
"Mr. Galli bluntly confessed:
“I know hardly anyone, let alone any evangelical Christian who voted for Trump. I describe evangelicals like me as ‘elite’ evangelicals" .......
These other evangelicals often haven’t finished college, and if they have jobs (and apparently a lot of them don’t), they are blue-collar jobs or entry-level work. They don’t write books or give speeches; they don’t attend conferences of evangelicals for social justice or evangelicals for immigration reform. They are deeply suspicious of mainstream media. A lot of them voted for Donald Trump.”

Does this Guy actually mean that uneducated peasants voted for Trump???

He is insulting the working class people of America. Who are now the back bone of America's middle class.

Looks like Galli Is a dyed in the wool Liberalist - Democrat!!!

As for his claim that he is an "elitist" evangelical - Obviously not a humble christian - ergo not a Biblical Christian.

1Sam 2:3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed."

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News Item12/26/19 9:40 AM
Joel | Pensacola  Find all comments by Joel
Wow, Dr Tim, you said that just like it is. You don’t beat around the bush, do you?
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News Item12/26/19 8:20 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
No, Jim, you have not referred to that ridiculous article “several” times. You have referred to it numerous times, and numerous times it has been carefully explained to you that it is worse for the wicked to force their wickedness on society than for the righteous to seek to have righteousness encoded in our laws. However, you obviously disagree. The only conclusion I can reach is that you yourself are wicked and love wickedness and hate righteousness. But your posts in favor of abortion and the satanic Democrats already prove that.
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News Item12/26/19 7:58 AM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Texas  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
Then it appears opportunity has been knocking at the door of CT and Mr. Gallo opened and left the building. The smugness of Mr. Galli is quite often in the entire country. Before Christmas break, my boss went into full hissy hit about deplorables, such as me for not demanding Trump turn coattail and run to Mara-logo , Florida. As he screamed in his office: “ where’s your change in abortion, has gay marriage vanished, because of Trump? Then why should you and your fellow deplorables support this( explicitly deleted).”
We’ve as close to a civil war or most tragically, the atmosphere is closer to what happened in 1963 in Dallas, Tx as we’ve ever been.
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News Item12/26/19 6:46 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I have several times pointed out this interesting short article,
https://tinyurl.com/y576t94t  (Should Christians try to force the kingdom onto others?
And while I recommend it again I will point this out as of corollary:
Barnes' New Testament Notes wrote:
Verse 19. If ye were of the world. If you were actuated by the principles of the world. If, like them, you were vain, earthly, sensual, given to pleasure, wealth, ambition, they would not oppose you.

Because ye are not of the world. Because you are influenced by different principles from men of the world. You are actuated by the love of God and holiness; they by the love of sin.

I have chosen you out of the world. I have, by choosing you to be my followers, separated you from their society, and placed you under the government of my holy laws.

Therefore, &c. A Christian may esteem it as one evidence of his piety that he is hated by wicked men. Often most decided evidence is given that a man is the friend of God by the opposition excited against him by the profane, by Sabbath-breakers, and by the dissolute, John 7:7 1 John 3:13.

(v) "therefore the world hateth you" Jn 17:14

from,"John 15:19"

if a Christian isn't that an elitist, there's something wrong with him❗👍

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