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FRONT PAGE  |  7/9/2020
MONDAY, NOV 11, 2019  |  11 comments
'Truly sinister': Jesus' words twisted to promote communism
A Chinese government publication has Jesus spouting human maxims that come straight from the playbook of the Chinese Communist Party.

Bitter Winter, a magazine on religious liberty and human rights in China, reports the government's Tian Feng publication is comparing the Bible to "The Maxims of Master Zhu."

"For example, the Confucian saying 'There is nothing more shameful than being jealous of the wealth and power of others; there is nothing lowlier than looking down on poor people' corresponds to 'He who despises his neighbor sins, but happy is he who is gracious to the poor.' (Proverbs 14:21)," the report says ...


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James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
The Quiet Christian wrote:
I don't give James VI so much credit, JT. He learned that he had better population control thru the RC/Anglican system of bishops. John Howie had some choice words regarding his monarch and his desire to build distrust within groups. His mistreatment of loyal Scots, including my family, is part and parcel of his efforts.
I agree QC. I don't credit King James VI for recognizing that God promises to teach His(John 6:45, Isa. 54:13, Eph 4:21), not though conclusions of men that filled the boarders of the pages, but from God's own Words from the middle of the pages(Jer. 31:33).
I see it as something along the lines of a ruling kings self serving motives being utilized not unlike those of how King Henry VIII were used. I think it was particularly the one note on Exodus 1:17 that indicated the Hebrew midwives were right to disobey the Egyptian king’s command that had his attention, not the doctrines that came in them.
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News Item11/14/19 6:15 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I don't give James VI so much credit, JT. He learned that he had better population control thru the RC/Anglican system of bishops. John Howie had some choice words regarding his monarch and his desire to build distrust within groups. His mistreatment of loyal Scots, including my family, is part and parcel of his efforts.
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News Item11/12/19 12:14 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
I think King James outlawed it because people still preferred the Geneva even after the release of the KJV.

The notes in the Geneva were a source of contention from the get go though so it was nothing new.

The Anglican Church, now under Queen Elizabeth I, reluctantly tolerated the printing and distribution of Geneva version Bibles in England. The marginal notes, which were vehemently against the institutional Church of the day, did not rest well with the rulers of the day. Another version, one with a less inflammatory tone was desired, and the copies of the Great Bible were getting to be decades old. In 1568, a revision of the Great Bible known as the Bishop's Bible was introduced but that didn't stop the people from wanting their Geneva.

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News Item11/11/19 10:20 PM
Uncle Sam | North Central Texas  Find all comments by Uncle Sam
The 'CCP twists' are but one way to poke a finger at our maker, the Elohim of the Bible.
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News Item11/11/19 9:14 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Wayfarer, I know there have been a number of small printings over the years before Tolle produced their printing of the 1599 version. I have Tolle's and really love reading it, really for the reasons you'd like to see an original. Tolle did print the notes, which are a treasure to me to look back into outlawed Reformed thought. There are some translational differences from the newer KJV, which is also a very good version. But for a Bible to be banned for some sort of political rationale...not entirely sure why James VI wanted to outlaw it but with the notes, his plan to institute bishops in the Scots' Kirk might have been harder.

Tolle's type and spelling is modern. My biggest complaint is that it does not have a concordance.

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News Item11/11/19 6:43 PM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
QC,
Is there a modern type face of the Geneva bible? I know Tolle Publishing had one out, but I’d like to see one with a type face that is clear with the side notes that brought the ire of kings and popes alike.
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News Item11/11/19 2:41 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
"Plagiarism" by Communists trying to, 'Win friends and influence their masses???

Deception??

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting."

Prov 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight."

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News Item11/11/19 12:24 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
Twisting the words and doctrines of Scripture, to further their own ends, is a very old practice in mankind.

That's what false religion does.

For example Pharisees, Roman Catholicism, Liberalism, Arminianism, Mormonism, JW's, Islam/Koran, Heresy, even Atheism ..... etc.

When the point being made/sold is sprinkled with a few Bible phrases then authenticity is claimed the more.

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News Item11/11/19 11:54 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
If you are suggesting that we read our Bibles with Americanized eyes and understanding, in that our culture & background influence our understanding, I agree completely, Neil. It is part, I believe, in seeing thru the glass darkly (1 Cor 13). We are not saved, thankfully, by our "knowledge" but by our "acknowledgement" of the Lord and His Christ (2 Peter 1, Geneva translation) as our savior thru faith that is not self-generated but is a gift from the Lord Himself (Eph 2:8-9).

Praying that the Holy Spirit removes the blinders from my eyes, more and more, to see and understand more clearly so I may love the Lord more dearly.

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News Item11/11/19 11:36 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Americans would do well to likewise reflect on how Christianity has been grossly distorted by American culture; anyone crying "foul" to its radical pragmatism will be persecuted. Fundamentalists are not immune: they close their Bibles where church conduct is concerned.

I tried reading Confucius's Analects once, and quickly got impatient trying to find any attempt at rational or transcendent justification for ethics. Why should we be virtuous? He, no less than the Greeks, had no answer because they had no transcendent authority for appeal.

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News Item11/11/19 9:31 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Frighteningly close to my musings on a different news story several days ago. Seems like the CCP are moving quickly. It may not be long before the Cultural Revolution 2.0 gets bloody. Our brothers and sisters in Christ may well experience what it is to share in Jesus' sufferings in a way that sends them directly to Him. We need to pray for their testimony and that their faith will hold fast until the end.
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