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FRONT PAGE  |  10/14/2019
Choice News SUNDAY, JUN 30, 2019  |  10 comments
Abortion Is the ‘Dismembering of a Living Child,’ Supreme Court Justice Says
The U.S. Supreme Court declined Friday to revive Alabama’s ban on a specific grisly abortion procedure, but not before Justice Clarence Thomas criticized the institution for its moral logic.

The case involved a 2016 Alabama law prohibiting dilation and evacuation (D&E) abortion -- a late-term procedure in which an unborn baby is torn apart limb by limb, until the womb is empty. Pro-life critics, including Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall, have labeled it “dismemberment abortion.”

The U.S. 11th Circuit Court of Appeals blocked the law, although two of the three judges indicated they would have upheld the law but were bound by Supreme Court precedent.

Thomas joined his colleagues in affirming the circuit’s decision but said the Supreme Court eventually must face the fallout from its past abortion decisions. ...


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News Item7/7/19 6:11 PM
TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic  Find all comments by TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic
THRICE: "IF MEN STRIVE (ESPECIALLY 'JEWI$H'-DOCTOR$ & ABORTIONI$T$/BABY-BUTCHER-PROVIDER$), AND HURT A (PREGNANT) WOMAN WITH CHILD, SO THAT HER FRUIT (BABY) DEPART FROM HER, AND YET NO MISCHIEF FOLLOW (THAT IS, THE BABY +DOESN'T+ DIE): HE (THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHERING 'JEWI$H'-[WITCH-]DOCTOR & ETC.) SHALL BE SURELY PUNISHED, ACCORDING AS THE WOMAN'S HUSBAND WILL LAY UPON HIM; AND HE (THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHER/WITCH-DOCTOR) SHALL PAY AS THE JUDGES DETERMINE.

AND IF ANY MISCHIEF FOLLOW (THAT IS, IF THE BABY DIES/LOSES HIS/IT'S LIFE), THEN THOU SHALT GIVE LIFE FOR LIFE (THAT IS, YOU WILL GIVE THE LIFE OF THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHER/WITCH-DOCTOR FOR THE LIFE OF THE BABY),

EYE FOR EYE (aka ADULT EYE FOR BABY EYE), TOOTH FOR TOOTH (aka ADULT TOOTH FOR BABY TOOTH), HAND FOR HAND (aka ADULT HAND FOR BABY HAND), FOOT FOR FOOT (aka ADULT FOOT FOR BABY FOOT),

BURNING FOR BURNING (ADULT BURNING FOR BABY BURNING), WOUND FOR WOUND (ADULT WOUND FOR BABY WOUND), STRIPE FOR STRIPE (ADULT STRIPE FOR BABY STRIPE)."-EXODUS 21:22-25

"SO SHALT THOU PUT AWAY EVIL FROM
[AMERICA]."-DEUTERONOMY 22:22e

"NOW THEREFORE DELIVER US THE MEN(/BABY-BUTCHER$), THE CHILDREN OF BELIAL, WHICH ARE IN [AMERICA], THAT WE MAY PUT THEM TO DEATH, AND PUT AWAY EVIL FROM
[AMERICA]."-JUDGES 20:13a-e!!!

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News Item7/7/19 2:54 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Tara Haelle wrote:
Partial birth” is a political, not medical, term, and it does not refer to all late-term abortions. It refers to a very specific and rare procedure called dilation and extraction*, in which a fetus is partially pulled through the birth canal and then aborted, nearly always when the fetus cannot live outside the womb and typically when the mother’s health is in danger, the fetus has a serious abnormality, or both. Such a procedure is not conducted lightly: the fetus has a fatal defect and will not survive, or the mother is at risk of death herself.

As this NPR article [ https://tinyurl.com/y7kp5lz3 ] notes about a partial-birth abortion ban passed in 2003, “when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal.” And the Supreme Court ultimately declined to strike down the ban anyway. Further, most states don’t allow late-term abortions:..and the rest have restrictions and other regulations in place.

excerpt from,
https://tinyurl.com/y3ckyo8l (No, Late-Term Abortions Don't 'Rip' Babies Out Of Wombs -- And They Exist For A Reason)
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News Item7/6/19 12:42 PM
Yolanda | AZ  Find all comments by Yolanda
Good for Justice Thomas. This is a blunt confrontation with murder.
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News Item7/5/19 3:10 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Tony you should have read some of the other articles that I had an URL to
Daniel Eisenberg, M.D. wrote:
....
... As a general rule, abortion in Judaism is permitted only if there is a direct threat to the life of the mother by carrying the fetus to term or through the act of childbirth. In such a circumstance, the baby is considered tantamount to a rodef, a pursuer after the mother with the intent to kill her....
.....
It is important to point out that the reason that the life of the fetus is subordinate to the mother is because the fetus is the cause of the mother's life-threatening condition, whether directly (e.g. due to toxemia, placenta previa, or breach position) or indirectly (e.g. exacerbation of underlying diabetes, kidney disease, or hypertension).8 A fetus may not be aborted to save the life of any other person whose life is not directly threatened by the fetus, such as use of fetal organs for transplant....
excerpt from, "Abortion in Jewish Law"

https://tinyurl.com/y673y6oa

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News Item7/4/19 6:46 PM
TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic  Find all comments by TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic
AGAIN: "IF MEN STRIVE (ESPECIALLY 'JEWI$H'-DOCTOR$ & ABORTIONI$T$/BABY-BUTCHER-PROVIDER$), AND HURT A (PREGNANT) WOMAN WITH CHILD, SO THAT HER FRUIT (BABY) DEPART FROM HER, AND YET NO MISCHIEF FOLLOW (THAT IS, THE BABY +DOESN'T+ DIE): HE (THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHERING 'JEWI$H'-[WITCH-]DOCTOR & ETC.) SHALL BE SURELY PUNISHED, ACCORDING AS THE WOMAN'S HUSBAND WILL LAY UPON HIM; AND HE (THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHER/WITCH-DOCTOR) SHALL PAY AS THE JUDGES DETERMINE.

AND IF ANY MISCHIEF FOLLOW (THAT IS, IF THE BABY DIES/LOSES HIS/IT'S LIFE), THEN THOU SHALT GIVE LIFE FOR LIFE (THAT IS, YOU WILL GIVE THE LIFE OF THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHER/WITCH-DOCTOR FOR THE LIFE OF THE BABY),

EYE FOR EYE (aka ADULT EYE FOR BABY EYE), TOOTH FOR TOOTH (aka ADULT TOOTH FOR BABY TOOTH), HAND FOR HAND (aka ADULT HAND FOR BABY HAND), FOOT FOR FOOT (aka ADULT FOOT FOR BABY FOOT),

BURNING FOR BURNING (ADULT BURNING FOR BABY BURNING), WOUND FOR WOUND (ADULT WOUND FOR BABY WOUND), STRIPE FOR STRIPE (ADULT STRIPE FOR BABY STRIPE)."-EXODUS 21:22-25 !

"SO SHALT THOU PUT AWAY EVIL FROM
[AMERICA]."-DEUTERONOMY 22:22e

"NOW THEREFORE DELIVER US THE MEN(/BABY-BUTCHER$), THE CHILDREN OF BELIAL, WHICH ARE IN [AMERICA], THAT WE MAY PUT THEM TO DEATH, AND PUT AWAY EVIL FROM
[AMERICA]."-JUDGES 20:13a-e !

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News Item7/1/19 6:26 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Evangelical thought on abortion wasn't bent to the will of the Pope until apparently late in the 20th century
Bob Allen wrote:
Wayne Dehoney, SBC president for two terms in the 1960s and longtime pastor of Walnut Street Baptist Church in Louisville, Ky., described “a basic watershed between Protestant and Catholic theology on two questions — the morality of birth control, of which abortion is another form, and the question of when life begins.”

“Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception,” Dehoney said.

That’s what W.O. Vaught, pastor of Immanuel Baptist Church in Little Rock, Ark., told his most famous parishioner, President Bill Clinton.

[However]

Everyone agrees that evangelicals, including Southern Baptists, were late to the pro-life cause, but not everyone agrees about the reason.

Christianity Today Editor Mark Galli termed the argument that evangelicals were once predominantly pro-choice “fake history,” noting that his magazine denounced Roe v. Wade in an editorial as early as 1973....

--"Evangelicals and abortion: chicken or egg?"

https://tinyurl.com/y5fpadto

I would say Wayne Dehoney was wrong about a number serious issues that divided Christians and C

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News Item7/1/19 6:20 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
https://www.jpost.com/printarticle.aspx?id=590448 (What Jewish law really says about abortion)
Avi Shafran wrote:
....
We have no legal or moral claim on financial success, happy marriages, health or good fortune – no “right” to any of those things – in Jewish law or in the Bill of Rights.

In addition to having no right to such things, Judaism also teaches that we have a fundamental obligation to act responsibly toward others....

--"In Judaism, abortion is not a right – and pregnancy is a responsibility"

https://www.jpost.com/printarticle.aspx?id=591181
So, Tony, you mischaracterize idea that all Jews are pro-abortion❗

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News Item7/1/19 4:05 PM
TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic  Find all comments by TrueHolyBibleChristianCatholic
"IF MEN STRIVE (ESPECIALLY 'JEWI$H'-DOCTOR$ & ABORTIONI$T$/BABY-BUTCHER-PROVIDER$), AND HURT A (PREGNANT) WOMAN WITH CHILD, SO THAT HER FRUIT (BABY) DEPART FROM HER, AND YET NO MISCHIEF FOLLOW (THAT IS, THE BABY +DOESN'T+ DIE): HE (THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHERING 'JEWI$H'-[WITCH-]DOCTOR & ETC.) SHALL BE SURELY PUNISHED, ACCORDING AS THE WOMAN'S HUSBAND WILL LAY UPON HIM; AND HE (THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHER/WITCH-DOCTOR) SHALL PAY AS THE JUDGES DETERMINE.

AND IF ANY MISCHIEF FOLLOW (THAT IS, IF THE BABY DIES/LOSES HIS/IT'S LIFE), THEN THOU SHALT GIVE LIFE FOR LIFE (THAT IS, YOU WILL GIVE THE LIFE OF THE ABORTIONI$T/BABY-BUTCHER/WITCH-DOCTOR FOR THE LIFE OF THE BABY),

EYE FOR EYE (aka ADULT EYE FOR BABY EYE), TOOTH FOR TOOTH (aka ADULT TOOTH FOR BABY TOOTH), HAND FOR HAND (aka ADULT HAND FOR BABY HAND), FOOT FOR FOOT (aka ADULT FOOT FOR BABY FOOT),

BURNING FOR BURNING (ADULT BURNING FOR BABY BURNING), WOUND FOR WOUND (ADULT WOUND FOR BABY WOUND), STRIPE FOR STRIPE (ADULT STRIPE FOR BABY STRIPE)."-EXODUS 21:22-25 !

THUS & "SO SHALT THOU PUT AWAY EVIL FROM
[AMERICA]."-DEUTERONOMY 22:22e

"NOW THEREFORE DELIVER US THE MEN(/BABY-BUTCHER$), THE CHILDREN OF BELIAL, WHICH ARE IN [AMERICA], THAT WE MAY PUT THEM TO DEATH, AND PUT AWAY EVIL FROM
[AMERICA]."-JUDGES 20:13a-e !

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News Item7/1/19 3:13 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Michael Wear wrote:
...our toxic politics has taught us that to acknowledge nuance is to make ourselves vulnerable and exposed. How comfortable have we become using politics as an immoral weapon in the name of our self-assured moral cause?...

Read:
https://tinyurl.com/y3lh9zd8 (Science is giving the pro-life movement a boost)

...the majority of Americans remain somewhere between supporting abortion-on-demand and supporting a federal law that would force the victim of a rapist to carry that child to term. Though it can’t be uttered in our politics, most Americans understand both that a fetus or unborn child is more than just a “clump of cells,” and that the unborn child is uniquely situated, implicating the life of its mother in a way that is singular among human relationships....

excerpts from, "The Abortion Debate Is No Longer About Policy"

https://tinyurl.com/y3lh9zd8

I see that Thomas and Ginsburg are in for some heated discussions.

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News Item6/30/19 11:47 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Apparently Justice Thomas did not vote against his peers as the case did not challenge the "undue burden" test. While it is gratifying to know that at least someone on the Court recognizes that abortion is not a protected liberty per the Constitution's text, it is saddening to see that Justice Thomas would not have gone against his colleagues and written a dissenting argument to strike against the grisly and barbaric practice. But at least he wrote this.
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