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Choice News SATURDAY, DEC 1, 2018  |  63 comments  |  4 commentaries
Former President George H.W. Bush dead at 94

George Herbert Walker Bush, the 41st president of the United States, has died at age 94.

His death was announced by his family Friday night on Twitter. The president's health had been in decline in recent months.

"George Herbert Walker Bush, World War II naval aviator, Texas oil pioneer, and 41st President of the United States of America, died on November 30, 2018. He was 94 and is survived by his five children and their spouses, 17 grandchildren, eight great grandchildren, and two siblings," the former president's office said in a statement. "He was preceded in death by his wife of 73 years, Barbara; his second child Pauline "Robin" Bush; and his brothers Prescott and William or "Bucky" Bush."

His son George W. Bush, who served as the country's 43rd president, released a statement of his own from the family ...


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News Item12/15/18 1:34 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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https://tinyurl.com/y76d6csj ( Despite bitter family rivalry, Bush wanted Trump at his funeral )

He got his wish.

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News Item12/11/18 12:03 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Maybe I've missed something along the way, but all I can find about this murderer and pedophile stuff is on alternative news sites. The same sites that also claim he was a reptilian, had lizard eyes, a secret knight, involved in mass mind control, and a ritual murderer, etc. Coast to Coast AM sorts of nonsense.
This past Sunday at my Baptist Church Pastor Steve's sermon was about the lineage of Jesus on his Mother's side going back to King David. The Lord's Supper was also celebrated with bread and grape juice. I partook of the Lord's Supper at my Baptist Church.
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News Item12/8/18 11:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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News Item12/8/18 11:54 AM
Just a Mississippi | Guy  Find all comments by Just a Mississippi
Dr Tim says...
Another good reason to “come out from among them” and become an Independent Baptist."

Or a Reformed Baptist...

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News Item12/8/18 10:59 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim Lincoln wrote:
... my father was a Freemason. Unfortunately, my mother got to him to go to a church once, and it was a Pentecostal one. People frothing at the mouth, do not set a good example. 👎
So by your breezy generalization from a sample of a dozen or so, if all Masons are like Bush, and Bush was a Progressive warmongering statist, then your relatives and acquaintances were too. This might explain your politics then.
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News Item12/8/18 9:07 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Jim, for at least the second time this year—a new record, perhaps—you are right. There are a lot of Masons in Southern Baptist churches. Another good reason to “come out from among them” and become an Independent Baptist.
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News Item12/8/18 1:16 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I sure did, Neil, my father was a Freemason. Unfortunately, my mother got to him to go to a church once, and it was a Pentecostal one. People frothing at the mouth, do not set a good example. 👎

https://tinyurl.com/jga4xcx (Charismatic Chaos)

I already gave you an example of a very imperfect person, and Freemason, Warren G. Harding. He was one of the worst Presidents in history.

Also, I knew masons in the Methodist Church that I attended before I went to a bible-believing church. If you went to a Baptist Church you might have ran into Masons. that is one thing that John Ankerberg was complain about in his series on Freemasons there are too many of them in the Southern Baptist Church ❗

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News Item12/7/18 7:17 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
@US, 👍

@Neil, great reply to Jim.

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News Item12/7/18 5:04 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Bush acted like a Mason for one thing,
How do you know that? Do you hang out with Masons a lot?

Solomon is a blind hypocrite: the people who have destroyed civility in public discourse are mainly Democrats, who in past generations (as you should know) didn't call everyone who disagreed with them a racist or fascist. They only called them heartless or uncaring.

Besides, Bush's policies were not all that different from Democrats', so less need for confrontational language anyway.

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News Item12/7/18 8:01 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Bush acted like a Mason for one thing, not like some anti-Christian Dominionist ❗👍 from a story done about HW Bush when he was in his late 80s.
John Solomon wrote:
At the time, [Bush’s style] didn’t seem to be leadership qualities to the public. Some even saw it as weakness,” says Roman Popadiuk, a national-security spokesman in the Bush White House who today heads his presidential-library foundation.

“But now people are looking back at how he treated people and how Washington is now. And they’re appreciating how he harkened back to an era in which people were treated with respect and in which politics had some civility,” Popadiuk says. “The mutually cooperative way he tried to address things, the calm way he handled things in crisis. People see it today as a strength.”

As his successor, Bill Clinton, puts it: people have come to value “the contrast between his kind of conservatism and that which dominates today—less extreme in substance, less harsh in rhetoric, more open to reasonable compromise.”

excerpt from:
https://www.newsweek.com/wimp-he-wasnt-66025

This article can hardly be seen as an attack on Trump since it was written in 2011

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News Item12/7/18 6:10 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Connor7 wrote:
The person making a claim is to provide the source. I’m not saying the quote is or is not, I’m just saying that when someone makes a claim about someone, it seems proper to provide documentation.
If I said, “Did you know that Ken Ham said that Islam is the only true religion?”
You would say, “Where’s the beef, where did Ken say that.”
I’m sure if I replied, “Oh, it’s on YouTube” that reply wouldn’t settle well with you, and rightfully so. It is on the person (in that case, me) to provide documentation so that you can check out the source to see if it is taken out of context, if it is reliable, etc.
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Brother Conner, I am not missing what you are saying to sc and I believe you have a valid point. Although I think your attempt to have her produce what you want is futile. (Not because she is not capable). I will, however give you the links that you request ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5PKxglj88

The transcript of the interview

https://www.piercedhearts.org/benedict_xvi/apostolic_journey/USA2008/interview_pres_bush.htm

It was an interview by a RCC network, which might explain why he answered the way he did.

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News Item12/6/18 9:41 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
The person making a claim is to provide the source. I’m not saying the quote is or is not, I’m just saying that when someone makes a claim about someone, it seems proper to provide documentation.

If I said, “Did you know that Ken Ham said that Islam is the only true religion?”

You would say, “Where’s the beef, where did Ken say that.”

I’m sure if I replied, “Oh, it’s on YouTube” that reply wouldn’t settle well with you, and rightfully so. It is on the person (in that case, me) to provide documentation so that you can check out the source to see if it is taken out of context, if it is reliable, etc.

Just trying to help out, read my first post, it had nothing to do with Bush, per se, it had to do with helping sc to build a good case.

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News Item12/6/18 7:36 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
A simple search on the web will verify sc’s claim brother Conner about the Bush quote. The interview is probably on You Tube
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News Item12/6/18 7:16 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
sc, that’s not documentation, can you provide a link or source to back up your claim? Just trying to help you.
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News Item12/6/18 5:54 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Maybe if we are going to point out ties to Catholicism then we should be putting up examples of these men forcing the RCC religion on people through their governance or rulings. If that cannot be shown then it has no bearing on how they served in public life or should not be a thing disdained about them. Surely it is sad for their personal life, but apart from the grace of God there go we
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News Item12/6/18 1:25 PM
sc  Find all comments by sc
It's easy when one goes straight to the source to make a case.
When asked what he saw when looking into the eyes of "pope" benedict, Bush stated that he saw "God".
Kavanaugh,a proud Jesuit,of course, cited his trip with Bush to see the pope as a high point.
And the present faux pa has commended Bush to the Lord.
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News Item12/6/18 1:07 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
sc wrote:
..GHW was very tight with the vatican.
If so, this is nothing unique. Ron Paul, popular among limited-gov't conservatives, spoke well of the pope, and it was Ronald Reagan who established diplomatic relations with the Vatican church-state, no doubt to curry favor with RCC voters. This is why I was astounded to hear Trump contradict the pope. The man may be a Loose Cannon, but some things need to be said.

Writers, journalists, and TV talking heads take Rome seriously, even when criticizing. Hollywood and New York have long thought that Christianity is Catholic:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChristianityIsCatholic
Only redneck nutters in Flyover States are Baptists, these ignorant fools think.

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News Item12/6/18 12:22 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
sc, my advice is to give documentation of your claims, it would help your case.
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News Item12/6/18 12:05 PM
sc  Find all comments by sc
What is no secret and perhaps more disturbing, Neil, is that GHW was very tight with the vatican. Can someone be a Christian and embrace Rome and its faux pas? ... only in extreme ignorance
The present faux pa has "commended" Bush to the Lord. Sadly, he thinks that it is in his power to do such. Lord help the Roman Catholics come out of this deception.
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News Item12/6/18 10:09 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Neil, I doubt if any of the Bushes were Masons, I was really making a the comment directed toward sc.
If you suspect the Bushes weren't Masons, then why didn't you tell sc in the 1st place, since he seems to think Bush had a connection with it?

All someone has to do around here is mention Masonry, then you come in with your tiresome Masonic America shtick.

"sc" you said truth is "annoying," yet offered none yourself.

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