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Choice News THURSDAY, DEC 28, 2017  |  183 comments
Franklin Graham Tells Rosie O'Donnell: 'Hell Is Filled With People Who Reject God's Laws'

Leading evangelist Franklin Graham has lashed out at controversial comedian Rosie O'Donnell after she told Speaker of the House Paul Ryan on Christmas morning that he's going "straight to Hell" because of the recently passed GOP tax plan.

Graham, who is a frequent commenter on current events, argued in his Facebook post that O'Donnell doesn't have the keys to Hell.

"Rosie, you don't have the keys to Hell, but I know the One who does," Graham wrote. "And I can tell you who will be there."

"Hell is going to be filled with people who rejected God's offer of salvation and turned their backs on His laws and standards, refusing to repent," he added. "Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, and He took your sins and mine to the Cross, dying in our place, so that we might live — if we would turn from our sins and put our faith in Him." ...


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News Item1/10/18 7:58 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
G'day sister MS, may our Lord
Keep you safe in the knowledge that his sheep will know his voice and will come
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News Item1/10/18 6:39 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Dave wrote:

It's high time we discern the spirits, and Mark those that push their own works based salvation and works they think keep them there.
As displayed often on here they are allowed to spew forth just a little of their gospel, another Gospel, before you know people get sucked in and give them further platform.
Indeed!
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News Item1/10/18 6:31 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Observer wrote:
Which Jesus do you follow?

It's high time we discern the spirits, and Mark those that push their own works based salvation and works they think keep them there.
As displayed often on here they are allowed to spew forth just a little of their gospel, another Gospel, before you know people get sucked in and give them further platform.
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News Item1/9/18 11:43 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
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News Item1/9/18 5:25 PM
Kev | US  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kev
Observer wrote:
Which Jesus do you follow?
I like that Bro

Jesus is the King of kings and Lord of lords. The Centurion was approved because of his great faith because of his testimony of who Jesus was:

Matthew 8
8 The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.

9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.

10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

The centurion’s testimony was that Jesus was a Man of GREAT AUTHORITY who by His word things are done by whatsoever He commands. True faith gives this same testimony of Christ.

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News Item1/9/18 4:57 PM
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News Item1/9/18 11:11 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
I remember the days of old; I meditate on all Your works; I muse on the work of Your hands, I spread out my hands to You; my soul longs for You like a thirsty land.—Psalm 143:5-6

Among Christians of all ages and of varying shades of doctrinal emphasis there has been fairly full agreement on one thing: They all believed that it was important that the Christian with serious spiritual aspirations should learn to meditate long and often on God.

Let a Christian insist upon rising above the poor average of current religious experience and he will soon come up against the need to know God Himself as the ultimate goal of all Christian doctrine. Let him seek to explore the sacred wonders of the Triune Godhead and he will discover that sustained and intelligently directed meditation on the Person of God is imperative. To know God well he must think on Him unceasingly. Nothing that man has discovered about himself or God has revealed any short cut to pure spirituality. It is still free, but tremendously costly. "That Incredible Christian", 135.

https://www.monergism.com/legacy/mt/sitepages/incredible-christian-aw-tozer

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News Item1/8/18 3:44 PM
Observer  Contact via emailFind all comments by Observer
John Yurich USA wrote:
...
Nobody can decide when they will become Born Again. It is the mighty work of the Holy Spirit prompting one to embrace Jesus as their Lord and Savior. And thus a sinner does not have the executive power to decide when to become Born Again. Nothing can be done to effect the new birth.
So being born again equals a Holy Spirit inspired decision to embrace Christ? Can you point me to some NT verses which prove this?

And, why does Christ then reject some who had embraced him at Matthew 7.21-23?

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News Item1/8/18 2:49 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Observer wrote:
Wrong answer, but nice try.
Try reading my questions again, and this time try using your thinking head.
I edited my post to answer your other questions. According to Baptist teaching to be Born Again means that one has embraced or surrendered their life to Jesus as their Lord and Savior and trusts entirely in Him alone for salvation.
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News Item1/8/18 2:37 PM
Observer  Contact via emailFind all comments by Observer
John Yurich USA wrote:
Born Again means that one has embraced Jesus as their Lord and Savior, asked Him for forgiveness of sins and trusts entirely in Him alone for salvation.
Wrong answer, but nice try.

Try reading my questions again, and this time try using your thinking head.

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News Item1/8/18 2:35 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Observer wrote:
What does it mean to be "born again" John? Can you decide when you're going to be born again? How you're going to be born again? etc
Can you do anything to effect the new birth? Do you, a sinner, have the executive power to decide?
Born Again means that one has embraced Jesus as their Lord and Savior, asked Him for forgiveness of sins and trusts entirely in Him alone for salvation.
Nobody can decide when they will become Born Again. It is the mighty work of the Holy Spirit prompting one to embrace Jesus as their Lord and Savior. And thus a sinner does not have the executive power to decide when to become Born Again. Nothing can be done to effect the new birth.
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News Item1/8/18 5:51 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lurker wrote:
John,
I see my comment was poorly written and could lead to a wrong conclusion. It wasn't my intent to suggest what you concluded. However, there are those who appeal to the OT to prove man has freewill in the NC age. But the outcome of that covenant should prove that man's will was not free to choose and sustain the good and reject the evil.
Under the first covenant terms, choices were presented to God's people; choose this and live or choose that and die. Also under the first covenant, the Jews ruled over God's people and taught them to err. In time all Israel broke the covenant and were cast off as a people.
The NC remedied the faults of the first. God took the kingdom away from the Jews and set His own risen Son on His throne to rule over His people as King and High Priest. The choices were taken away from the people and given to the Son in His purpose of election. A faithful preacher was sent to ensure that His laws of love were written on the hearts of His people so they would never fall away again.
A change in covenant administration is what happened.
Thanks bro.
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News Item1/7/18 1:07 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
John UK wrote:
What puzzles me though, is your claim that under the old covenant mankind has a free will, yet it disappeared, say, from Acts 15 onwards. What happened?
Just asking.
John,

I see my comment was poorly written and could lead to a wrong conclusion. It wasn't my intent to suggest what you concluded. However, there are those who appeal to the OT to prove man has freewill in the NC age. But the outcome of that covenant should prove that man's will was not free to choose and sustain the good and reject the evil.

Under the first covenant terms, choices were presented to God's people; choose this and live or choose that and die. Also under the first covenant, the Jews ruled over God's people and taught them to err. In time all Israel broke the covenant and were cast off as a people.

The NC remedied the faults of the first. God took the kingdom away from the Jews and set His own risen Son on His throne to rule over His people as King and High Priest. The choices were taken away from the people and given to the Son in His purpose of election. A faithful preacher was sent to ensure that His laws of love were written on the hearts of His people so they would never fall away again.

A change in covenant administration is what happened.

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News Item1/7/18 4:51 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lurker wrote:
John,
I skimmed through the article and I'd caution you to be very careful. What I found noticeably absent is any mention of the difference in administration between the first covenant and the new covenant. Sure there are texts which teach freewill under the first covenant economy but that age and administration is past. The NC has as its cornerstone God's purpose of election; to call out the sheep from the goats in mercy. To carry forward freewill theology from the first covenant to the new is to deny God His purpose of election and degrade His mercy to a commodity which can be accepted or rejected at will.
Just saying, bro.
Thanks Lurker for your concern. I didn't read far because there are two theologies side by side and I don't like that sort of article

What puzzles me though, is your claim that under the old covenant mankind has a free will, yet it disappeared, say, from Acts 15 onwards. What happened?

Just asking.

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News Item1/6/18 11:05 PM
Nete | AZ  Find all comments by Nete
Ladybug wrote:
John 1:29 KJV
(29)  The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.----what did Christ accomplish by sacrificing Himself? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCsrKPjlcyM
Why doesn't Graham blame Satan? Or, is Trump exempt from personal responsibility to do what is right in the sight of God?
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News Item1/6/18 9:19 PM
Ladybug  Find all comments by Ladybug
John 1:29 KJV
(29)  The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.----what did Christ accomplish by sacrificing Himself? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCsrKPjlcyM
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News Item1/6/18 8:08 PM
Observer  Contact via emailFind all comments by Observer
Lurker wrote:
I see them as polar opposites.

Bro, one is seen as the cause and the other as the effect.

So take for instance Romans 5.13, 14

The issue is those that died between Adam's fall and the giving of the Law to Moses. Verse 13 says that sin cannot be imputed where there is no law and yet verse 14 then goes on to state that nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses.

Since death is the wages of sin, whose sin was the cause of their death if not their own? Their own could not be imputed to them because there was no law!

These verses are of course expanding on verse 12 which reads:

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned

Look also at verses 17-19

v17 - death reigned because of Adam's sin
v18 - Judgement fell upon all men because of his offence
v19 - His disobedience made us sinners

Anyways, I know you don't want to discuss this, so I will stop here.

I just thought I would explain how the 2 are not polar opposites any more than us being accounted righteous by imputation of Christ's righteousness and then made righteous by the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Lord bless

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News Item1/6/18 3:19 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Observer wrote:
Hey bro Lurker
In systematic theology these are one and the same thing, so no need to argue over anything.
Hey brother,

Probably a good thing I haven't signed on to anyone's systematic theology then as I see them as polar opposites.

. . .

John,

I skimmed through the article and I'd caution you to be very careful. What I found noticeably absent is any mention of the difference in administration between the first covenant and the new covenant. Sure there are texts which teach freewill under the first covenant economy but that age and administration is past. The NC has as its cornerstone God's purpose of election; to call out the sheep from the goats in mercy. To carry forward freewill theology from the first covenant to the new is to deny God His purpose of election and degrade His mercy to a commodity which can be accepted or rejected at will.

Just saying, bro.

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News Item1/6/18 2:32 PM
Observer  Contact via emailFind all comments by Observer
Lurker wrote:
I deny the imputation of Adam's transgression to his progeny but agree all are born with Adam's propensity to commit sin.
Hey bro Lurker

In systematic theology these are one and the same thing, so no need to argue over anything.

_________________

Brothers and sisters

Are we seeing the step by step dismantling of John UK's cherished theological position which he claims to have espoused for so many years?

First it was particular redemption, now he is questioning man's inability.. wow! Why does he not spare us all the pain of reading all this stuff and just admit his secret arminianism. His secret semi-pelagianism has been evident in many of his posts because he is desperate to want to believe that man can actually make a difference in their own salvation. After all, how else can God be sincere to all in the gospel command to repent and believe if they were not capable of doing so, right?

Eph 4.14 ....be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive

BTW Have any you denied the universal preaching of the Gospel?!

Bro Frank,

to your excellent 1/6/18 12:32 PM post.

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News Item1/6/18 2:29 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Thank you Bro Lurker,

Blessings be on you also.

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