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John UK wrote:
Brother US, ponder away as you will, it is no problem. I am very much looking forward to reading your completed essay.
I will just say that as you are pondering so long on this, it is surely a sign that you have not given it much thought in the past. Well bro, it is no different to myself, as these things are very recent in mine own thinking.
There is far more to communion than most fellow believers realise, and it may be time to get out the creeds and confessions of our particular church and see what our founders thought about it.
Clearly, the independent and separatist Baptist pastors of 1689 collectively agreed on a most informative and heartwarming exposition of what the communion was all about. And at last I now see that the communion table must be a closed table, even though that produces logistical difficulties. In those days the Baptists were called Strict and Particular Baptists; they held a strict (closed) table and a particular view of the atonement (that Christ died particularly for those chosen by the Father).
John it is not so much a matter of not pondering in the past as it is t taking ime to write it out so it will communicate what I am trying to say in a concise manner this forum dictates.

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John UK wrote:
So, brother, however you interpret the eating of his flesh and drinking his blood, you will still have to do it, or you have no life in you. So how and when do you eat his flesh and drink his blood? Thank you.
Still pondering what I have written.

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Thank you for your response John. Thanks for your input James and Lurker.

Your answer now looks very similar to my 8/1/2020 9:58 AM post John We agree obviously then on that. It does appear different that what you implied in early responses, sorry for the misunderstanding.


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Sorry about the double post

Let us consider John 1:12

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

In the English language receive and believe are  both action verbs

Go further into the Greek and you discover that both words are in the Active Voice which means it Represents the subject as the doer or performer of the action (Blue Letter Bible)  it is followed by verse 13

Which were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Credit is given where it is due, but clearly there is an action by those who received Him and were given authority to become the sons of God.


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Good point sister ladybug, an omniscient God knows what man will do, and I think you will search in vain for me saying that God is waiting around just hoping that mortal man will allow Him to work.  But is it, as you say doublespeak?

God said to Adam, where are you?  Did God know where He was, yes, but He wanted a response from Adam.  What have you done?  Did you eat?  God knew all those answers yet He wanted a response from man.

Multiple examples could be given, asking Elijah at the entrance to the cave why he was there?  
God asked Cain why he was mad, where is his brother.  Again, God knew how they would respond but He wanted a response.  

Note Ezekiel 33:11

Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’

Read the chapter the response of man brings either judgement or deliverance.   Yet as you correctly point out He knows before hand what they will do and still says turn and ponder the consequences .


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Good point sister ladybug, an omniscient God knows what man will do, and I think you will search in vain for me saying that God is waiting around just hoping that mortal man will allow Him to work.  But is it, as you say doublespeak?

God said to Adam, where are you?  Did God know where He was, yes, but He wanted a response from Adam.  What have you done?  Did you eat?  God knew all those answers yet He wanted a response from man.

Multiple examples could be given, asking Elijah at the entrance to the cave why he was there?  
God asked Cain why he was mad, where is his brother.  Again, God knew how they would respond but He wanted a response.  

Note Ezekiel 33:11

Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’

Read the chapter the response of man brings either judgement or deliverance.   Yet as you correctly point out He knows before hand what they will do and still says turn and ponder the consequences .


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Ladybug thanks for your response It does not negate a single e word of my posts. God bless

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John UK wrote:
Bro US, are these the two questions you wish to be answered?

Thank you.

Yes please, and I have started an answer to your question but please respond to mine, thanks

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Paul always mentioned the circumstances of his salvation when sharing his testimony (the trip to Damascus, the blinding light, the piercing question, even those who journeyed with him) he also gave God all credit for the saving of His soul and put no faith in any work that he did.  Human action is needed, Hebrews reminds us that its source in saving faith was the work of God.

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It is an inarguable fact that no man is saved apart from the work of the Spirit and that by nature men seek not God.  The gospel is to be preached to every creature, the Word is planted or watered and God alone can give the increase. Who will come to Christ for salvation, all that the Father has given Him because His sheep hear  His voice, the negative responders are not His sheep. The truth is proclaimed and a response is expected.  Apart from the grace of God that response will be one of rejection from those who are dead in trespasses and sins.

No one would accuse Paul of not giving all glory for His salvation to a merciful God, yet he stated in his testimony, I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed.  

This is not Arminianism or Calvinism this is simply what saith the Scriptures.  God commands all to repent, those whom are commanded must respond.  If they do so, it is because God granted unto them repentance, it they do not it is because they rejected the truth and changed it into a lie that God’s call to repentance did not include them.   Either way it is a response.


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Response. A noun defined as

an answer or reply, as in words or in some action.

When asked in Acts 2, Men and brethren what shall we do?  Peter did not say “Nothing, if you’re elect God will save you”. He said Repent and be baptized in the name of the Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and with many other words did he testify and exhort saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Philip told the eunuch he must believe, Ananias told Saul to call upon the name of the Lord, Peter told Cornelius to believe in Christ, Paul said the same to the jailer.  Romans 10 says that the unregenerate must hear the Word of God, confess, believe and call upon Him for salvation.

Paul told the Athenians to seek the Lord, Paul told the people at Lystra that they should turn from these vanities unto the living God.

There is no indication that a response was not expected when the gospel was preached.  Paul oft condemned the Jews for their lack of proper response and said he was going to the Gentiles. After saying what is the gospel in I Corinthians 15 Paul said so we preached and so ye believed.   Paul commended the Thessalonians for turn from idols to serve the living and true God.

Continued


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John, answer my questions and we will go from there

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ladybug wrote:
Only GOD can give understanding on what the true Gospel is-this Gospel that points to Christ ALONE...
You are right I was not in anyway addressing anything that John MacArthur had said. Just addressing that the gospel calls for a response from man. certainly not saying it can be accomplished apart from the work of God.

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John thanks for your response, not sure why. you left my questions unanswered.

Don’t have much time so here is the “Cliff notes” response.

We have spiritual content at communion because we are walking in the light as He is in the light and obeying His commands and thus we have fellowship with HIm. There is spiritual content at communion because we should be taking a solemn inward look as we don’t want to partake unworthily. There is spiritual communion as we are gathered with other believers and rejoicing in the finished work of Christ and what He did in procuring our redemption and looking forward to His return. There is no spiritual content in the elements of the Lord’s Supper that are consumed, it has none and transmits none.


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Ladybug maybe you could clarify what the Christian should say to the lost person when presenting the gospel? Jesus, Paul, Phillip, John, Peter all admonished the unregenerate to repent and believe, John and Paul even used the term receive. Paul further testified that “ I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him”

It is well documented by you that nothing will happen without the work of the Spirit, but that is not something we can see or know is happening at the time the gospel is being presented. Our knowledge of it comes after the fact according to John 3..

Just trying to help you make your point, what admonition do you see in Scripture should be given to those who are not saved in order to be saved?

Thanks.


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Sorry John, I am not the brightest person in the world and you are losing me on what point you are trying to drive home. The verses you cited still teach that communion is symbolic. Are you trying to say it is not? Are you saying there is more to it than symbolism?

I Corinthians 11:26
Fir as often as ye eat this bread, and drunk this cup, ye do SHEW the Lord's death till He come

The word translated shew means (as seen by how it is translated elsewhere in the New Testament) means

to proclaim, promulgate: - declare, preach, shew, speak of, teach.


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John UK wrote:
Brother, let us look at this passage, and why I included it.
John 17:4 KJV
(4) I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
Jesus says he has finished the work which God the Father gave him to do. This was before he had finished the work which God the Father had given him to do.
Jesus instituted the new covenant in his blood before even the crucifixion took place. "Drink ye all of it, this is the new covenant in my blood." And "do this in remembrance of me." Remembrance of what, exactly? It had not happened yet. A moment before, they were still living in the old covenant, celebrating passover.
Are not these things so?
If I am barking up the wrong tree, please rephrase your initial point so that I understand it better. Thank you.
John doesn't show that He wasn't using symbolism at the Passover meal with His disciples. Thanks

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John none of those passages negate my point

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John UK wrote:
Bro, Jesus could have said:
...this represents my body.
but he actually said:
...this is my body.
You stop short

He did not say about His body, which will be broken or will be given , He said which is broken or is given. He did not say My blood which will be shed, but My blood which is shed .

He finished with this do in remembrance, which weds what we do for things that have already come to pass.

No other interpretation can be made than one of symbolism because He was speaking of things that had not occurred as if they were in the past tense. Communion with the Lord is a daily state not just reserved for times one is partaking in the “Lord’s Supper”. Breaking of bread is a time of looking back with gratitude and gravity to what our Savior has done, a present honest and solemn look into our own spiritual condition and a future look to His return.


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John UK wrote:
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With stockpiling of weaponry and ammunition in America, and with the economy and jobs severely affected by lockdown procedures, with this leading to near starvation for some families, and supposing the pandemic cannot be controlled any other way, and the guv not willing to let it run and do its worst, thusly the austerity continues until some folks just cannot cope any more, and they see stealing food as the only way of survival, at gunpoint of course, maybe stealing money, cars etc., maybe forming into groups or gangs, living in forests like Robin Hood, robbing the rich so that their families can eat, and so on and so forth.
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John do as you wish but I believe you would do well to stop with such a characterization of a civilization you don't seem to understand. You appear to get your facts about from it the liberal media. The vast majority of gun owners in the United States (we are talking high 90’s in percentile) are law abiding citizens not unruly mobs or those who can’t wait to use their fire power to lord it over others. If the scenario you painted was in any way accurate it would have happened long ago and been common throughout our history.
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