Wayfarer pilgrim wrote:
“ mean spirited vibe”? Seriously, whatever happened to believers needed to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves? Vimeo also posts pornagraphy videos, don’t be surprised if the same cistern dips out a lot of dregs before you ever find fresh water.

sc wrote:
Jacob was first a deceiver.
We're all brats until we have the fear of the Lord.
Spiritual pride is not taking a stand for that which is true.
People with big toes always accuse those who are in disagreement with them as being self-righteous.

ladybug wrote:
Well, your back door innuendo at taking a stab calling me prideful in a roundabout way is not surprising, seeing as you are twisting holy writ to fit your brand of Pharisee type religion. This isn't my first rodeo.
Your poor eisegesis of Genesis 32 doesn't hold water either, it wasn't due to stubbornness; I leave it to God to choose whether to reveal His truth to you or keep it from you. may God grant you true understanding of His word and keep you from further twisting His truth.

ladybug wrote:
Canucklehead...
God, as a man, wrestled Jacob and put Jacob's hip out of joint, was God in sin? Can you answer?

But remember, it was Jacob who wrestled God, not the other way around. God tolerated Jacob's stubbornness and eventually dislocated Jacob's hip to prove who was more powerful.

ladybug wrote:
Stewardship should be taken seriously, that includes how we spend what God gives to us.
Concerning smoking, here's the verse God used to help break me of that habit 16 years ago - 1 Cor. 3:17
The word 'homosexual' may not appear in the bible, however, the sin of men with men is clearly spoken out against in Lev. 18:22, 1 Cor. 6:9,10 and Romans 1.This would be beneficial to read -https://iamhis-lyn.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-origin-of-phrase-homosexual.html.
It's amazing how someone can kick another to the curb because we don't meet your criteria, in this case, standing in opposition to your and sc's opinion that wrestling is an abhorrence to God. Until you can show from God's word where there is even a hint of wrestling being sinful, neither of you have a leg to stand on.
Do you think Samuel was aggressive when this happened - And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal. 1 Sam. 15:33...It seems you are now resorting to rabbit trails to make your case.

Is cigarette use considered a sin in the Bible?
Homosexuality isn't actually mentioned in the Bible.

ladybug wrote:
Standing firm? Where does the bible outlaw young men to participate in sports? If there's no biblical support, the only thing you and sc are standing firm on are your personal opinions and convictions.
Legalists love to condemn others, but how many of you desire to see a sinner caught in a fault, IF in fact they are, restored? How many of you pray for them? Are you and sc praying for this young man who you both claim is in sin?
Wouldn't it be of greater benefit to get off this forum and hit your knees on behalf of this young man? Again, Jerry Bridges point from his book 'respectable sins' seems to be rife in our day. It's so easy to judge others isn't it? It's so easy to say they are in sin, but don't you dare ask God to examine your OWN HEART. The greatest need within professing Christendom today is for self examination - those who do not see their need for this are in a terrible state.

can you... wrote:
show from the bible where wrestling is called a sin?

Take a guess what all of these disciplines have in common? Hurting your opponent until he taps out. Is this Christian? Is this Christ-like? Is this loving?

In your opinion, being an obvious authority on all things biblical, could you see Jesus involved in wrestling?

Marty McD wrote:
Is homeschooling permissible anywhere?

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
What I see is the shame is that people won’t admit the obvious, that the sport of wrestling was used as an analogy for our spiritual battles and thus are saying God is using something evil to encourage us in our warfare. It’s the big elephant in the room but I suspect nothing will change

sc wrote:
We don't wrestle for the purpose of sport.
Scriptures that speak of such are not, in any way, allowing for the sport of wrestling. The student in the article wrestles other students (flesh and blood).
Physically wrestling someone for entertainment value is in no way condoned in the Bible.
Thank the Lord,we won't have to wrestle in the spiritual realm one day either.

James Thomas wrote:
Considering the context...
Eph 6:11
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
John 8:44Ye are of your father the devil,
I'd tend to believe the same people Jesus called out are the same Paul was warning those in Ephesus about and has nothing to do with any sport then or now.