Chrisgp from England wrote: Dear Mr Boyd, why are so many people trying to defend the modern bibles, when they are clearly based on the work of 4 liberal theologians, 2 Anglican liberals from Cambridge (Westcott and Hort), one of them by the way was involved in spiritism, (he ran a âGhostly Guildâ or psychical research society), and 2 Continental liberal theologians, Nestle and Aland, and based on two texts, one from the Vatican Library, and the other discovered in a waste paper basket of a Greek Orthodox monastery in the Sinai desert. Yes, God is sovereign, and people can be saved through preaching from the modern Bibles, if the preacher or pastor is evangelical enough, but why use something deficient when you can stay with a much better and more solid translation. The 17th century translators of the KJV/AV were brilliant and godly men, and were not employed by publishing companies anxious to make a profit and establish a copyright trademark. Many people all over the world prefer to use the KJV/AV if their church uses English, even if it is not their first language.
Thank you, brother, for this mighty defence of true facts. It is deplorable to observe the crowd of slanted preachers towards the matter!!! Every blessing
Unprofitable Servant wrote: 1. My apologies, I have already opted out of that discussion. If you had taken the time to read my posts you would know I believe that the resurrection is part of the daily Christian walk (see Romans 6:4) and also the premise of your question is inaccurate.
2. On what authority do you arrive at your figure of 95% of church is apostate and that AIG is demonically deceptive, pretty strong statements that appear to have no backing.
3. CES wrote The Billy Graham EA has on their website, to observe the *lenten season* 2/25/20.They also are using the popish wordâpenitence âin their article.đ„”. My how far they have fallen.
1. Unprofitable, as usual it appears you want to hold hands to two ends, marrying tradition along with biblical doctrine.
2. Perhaps the 95 % comes determined by the real percentage of the evangelical church taken with what you wish to defend here.
3. Not 'fallen' really, they have been on that trend for a long time, only they have come to the end of the ecumenical trip: union with Rome.
John UK wrote: Yes, I thought the article was very poor, and "answersingenesis" ought never be regarded as authoritative, especially when compared to the scriptures, which God has preserved miraculously, when much historical records are lost forever.
Yes, John, we all look through an imperfect glass the glories that await us, (2 Cor. 3:18) yet many are on 'coloured' glasses regarding the interpreting of current customs. Keep safe in the trust of his good will for you.
John UK wrote: "The daily or weekly service....." Now here is another thing that tradition has foisted upon the unsuspecting Christian world: the idea that there is such as a thing as a "service" provided every Sunday morning and evening. ... someone is providing you with a service; they are doing something for you, and you pay for it. That is NOT the NT way of going on. A church is to meet together in a building to make use of their individual spiritual gifts, given to them by Jesus. The people there are all born again and they all have gifts to be used. Sometimes they will receive, sometimes they will give. Nowhere in the NT is there a concept of a church service; rather it is a gathering of saints for mutual benefit. But it is all part of the falling away. There is very little true representations of the church of Jesus Christ in the world today, just a mishmash of the ideas of men, extra-biblical activities ... and the true believers are becoming isolated and regarded as the offscouring of the world ...
Yes the term 'service' derives from an institutionalised church, yet when we meet together we 'minister' one to another as you say, and this is a service we give each other, which is profitable and acceptable unto God. ICor.14:26
Humble One wrote: 1. consider source: WND=World Nut Daily. 2. have you heard this on your local news? I won't ask national networks since they would never touch any story with God in it. I was going to ask if your local newspaper has a weekly religion page listing church services, but now that they have been moved online, that is no longer true. But still, if they did, have they run any editorials or columns about this story? 3. what do people mean by God? the guy sitting on a big throne with long white hair and beard, throwing thunderbolts down at us? 4. Compare the recent past--2009 Swine Flu or H1N1 virus. 60 million Americans affected, 12,000 died, yet did schools close? 5. Consider the 'regular' flu season for which we are given vaccines in Aug/Sept to prep for it. CDC says over 20,000 people died from Oct 1, 2019 to Feb 29, 2020. That's 4,000 people per month. Any news on it? To be fair, all NHL, NBA, SEC, NFL games should be cancelled from Oct 1 onwards to prevent this 'tragic loss of life.' Everyone should be required to wear face masks from October 1 through March 31.
You present true facts as far as you can assert, fair enough, yet there might be several unknowns hid from our knowledge in the present crisis. Take care
John UK wrote: Exactly CV. If anyone is going to convince me that Romans 14 can be used as a biblical principle for extra-biblical activities, I need to know if there are limits to how far you can go with it. However, I personally don't see any way the passage can be used as a biblical principle. There is a vague sort of notion that a man's conscience must never be thwarted, when it comes to individual practice. However, if that practice is not in accord with scripture, it is his conscience that is faulty, not the Christian who is trying to turn him around.
Well, well, well......
The accommodating myth of Romans 14 is growing into a cult for the Liberal wing of the evangelical lot to justify what it suits.
John, excellent point made about the pascha in the link. Unproved BLANKET statements super imposed on history to make 'sense' of unjustifiable fads of the day.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Thatâs the issue John. When presented with evidence that Easter and Christmas are NOT of RCC origin you ignore it.
So we should imply then that Christmas and Easter was a fabrication of.....???? Who???? Let's be clear, the church calendar, of which Christmas and Easter are key part, was born in the bosom of the proto-apostate church of the early centuries, in time known as Roman Catholic
Reconsidering Lam 3:35-40, To turn aside the right of a man before the face of the most High, To subvert a man in his cause, the Lord approves not. Who is he that says, and it comes to pass, when the Lord commands it not? Out of the mouth of the most High proceeds not evil and good? Wherefore does a living man complain, a man for the punishment of his sins? Let us search and try our ways, and turn again to the LORD.
And where does all this money come from? Are not most countries already in debt? Can states borrow money? and from who? Or is it simply making money out of paper? Crisis procure decisive opportunities for bankers to secure prospect wealth by the returns from loans the "new" money created out of nothing ensures.
Chrisgp from England wrote: Two more considerations here in Britain; with the proposed over 70âs 4 month lockdown, that will remove all the older people at a stroke,...
As all things work together for good, and being many remnant congregations in the UK made up mainly of elderly folk, this might serve for the church in Britain as a reality check to assess at which state the church is in.
Significant series Easy to spot on the ills of totalitarian socialist regimes, but it is rather harder to live under the pain everyday 'mild' socialistic policies inflict is our present Western societies
New monikers around for the usual purpose noticed.
Mixing information and twisting the posting order to suit the intend of some here ... how poor are we getting with this?
It does not say much for the Christian character of the posting body here when people congratulate the fact of apologies presented in advance for admiting that some might defer to the particular view presented. This sounds as an indication that some might be more in the business of suppressing truth than in the search of true knowledge ...
It is like congratulating a teenager for making him admit that he is not entitled to an opinion !?!?! The obvious mature debating skills seem at loss in the sea of Belial by such quagmires.
Disclaimer, Nothing to do with your apology, Lurker.