The greater pity is thinking God 'offers' salvation to whosoever, rather than understanding Christ actually secured salvation for His elect, He actually redeemed His elect and not the whosoevers, only all the believing. This truth is foreign to the lost as they gnash their teeth in fits of rage.
It is amazing to me as to how many accept this charlatanās claim to Christianity. Of course no one can refute my first comment; he was ecumenical and political, so they simply ignore those truths. Now I was not referring to a minor lapse into ecumenicalism, but a purposeful desire for ecumenicalism because that was the only way he could become famous and he knew it. How many would dare say those things should be ignored under the pretense of love. He not only was ecumenical, but he touted his ecumenicalism and caused others to be the same way. Why would we give praise to someone who understood catholicism and yet supported it. Just think about that.
Iām sure that everyone will realize that if I give someone money, it doesnāt necessarily mean it was a good deed? If I tell someone that Jesus is Lord and Savior and then didnāt attempt to get them out of the catholic faith; have I not become a wolf in āsheepāsā clothing? Should I want born again believers to worship the Pope of to worship alongside those that are doing that?
Matthew 7:15 āBeware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.ā
I already know from past experience that no one can answer my concerns and I am not being judgmental or ugly.
No, John, I donāt. How can sin make man innocent? Iām afraid you lost me on that one. What a pity that some are so foolish that they cannot understand how God can offer salvation to anyone willing to receive it (by grace through faith) without compromising His sovereignty in the least. How quickly we forget that all of us sheep used to be dogs.
The Arminian must continue with his synergistic salvation, insisting prayers repeated by sinners save. Who caused the publican' to cry out for mercy? His free will? Surely not, for salvation is a work of the sovereign triune God alone. . "For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man boast. "- this is clear teaching for the š This is from a sermon by Gary Shepard entitled 'a certain samaritan'- "You look down at verse 29. It says, āBut he, willing to justify himself...ā12 You want to know what so-called free will is all about? Free will is nothing more or less than sinners who by nature are willing only to do one thing when it comes to God and that is that we are by nature willing to justify ourselves".šš
Tim, you lack reading comprehension skills, for IF you had bothered reading any of my responses, you would know your accusation is false. Now, you are the one who doesn't know the true Gospel, as all your comments attest to, continually spewing out universalism and random salvation for all those whosoevers. May God have mercy and give you ears to hear. Do you have evidence yet that states Graham wasn't building an ecumenical bridge to Rome?
This is from a sermon by Gary Shepard entitled 'a certain samaritan'- "You look down at verse 29. It says, āBut he, willing to justify himself...ā12 You want to know what so-called free will is all about? Free will is nothing more or less than sinners who by nature are willing only to do one thing when it comes to God and that is that we are by nature willing to justify ourselves".
I look forward to your evidence concerning BG and Rome...
Thanks for your reply, LB. Obviously you donāt know the true gospel, or you would have put it forth. For your edification and for the benefit of WHOSOEVER wants to know, here it is: 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 3Ā Ā Ā For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4Ā Ā Ā And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. This is the gospel that is the power of God unto salvation, and it is the ONLY gospel that saves. Any other gospel is accursed, as are those who preach it. āBelieve on the Lord Jesus Christ and THOU shalt be saved,ā whosoever thou art, and he or she who denies this is a liar and an agent of Satan himself.
James Thomas wrote: With Gentleness and with meekness are we to share the gospel as well as differing positions. Also, God promised only one new name per Isa. 62:2 and that would be the name of "Christian". Why would any other name be desired?
James, I am sure that most posting here believe they are Christians, and that we are following the teachings of the apostles and prophets. We can all be wrong but we can't all be right.
See Mat 24:11-14
Is not the text you are referring to in Isaiah referring to national Israel's new name? Is it not in reference to Isa 62:4Ā Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.Ā
If you use e-sword and have it available see JFB on this portion.
Appreciated your input.
Off to a neighbor's farm for fertilizer since God so graciously gave rain to my wilting garden. It is just beginning to fruit in most cases and I'd all but given up. So on my way singing: "Lord bless and pity us shine on us with thy face that the earth thy way and nations all may know thy saving grace." Psalm 67
Luke 18:9-14 KJV (9)Ā And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: (10)Ā Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. (11)Ā The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. (12)Ā I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. (13)Ā And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. (14)Ā I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Luke 23:42 KJV (42)Ā And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
The publican and the thief, both saved after saying a "sinner's prayer".
If you seriously want to be a hyper-Calvinist, don't seek the Lord while he may be found, and don't call upon him while he is near; don't depart from your sins, don't approach unto God. That ought to do it.
B. McCausland wrote: How have you changed, John The real shame is to have views contrary to Scripture, not to men. Regards
Changed, sister? If you ask some of the older contributors on the forum here, going back 15 years or more, they will tell you I have held the 1689 Baptist Confession since I first understood it after my conversion in 1979. That makes it about 40 years.
Disclaimer. This does not mean I accept every jot and tittle of the document. There are certain things I am undecided on, or am experimenting with. But on many subjects, such as the ordinances of baptism and the Lord's Supper, I am happy to say that I believe they got it spot on.
Have you ever read the 1689 Baptist Confession? Or is that out of your experience?
Sister MS-šā¤ļø yes, the Gospel of sovereign grace is foreign to many. So they end up casting grace to the wind in favor of a synergistic method. God will give understanding to His š concerning His Gospel, wherein the righteousness of God is revealed.
Either we have the Sovereign GOD of the Bible who from eternity past, chose who would and who would not be saved according to His pleasure, reasons, and His own counsel, or we have deified men and women who can deny the Almighty, manipulate His will, and then by our finite human reasonings and standards determine what is āfairā and how to approach Him. Carnal man always wants to claim a portion of the finished work of Jesus Christ on behalf of His elect sheep, for himself, by saying a little sinners prayer, walk an isle, weep at the altar, take the preachers hand... But he is separated from God by sin, and can in no way apart from the exacting intervention of God, be saved. That makes us who are His sheep, rejoice and be the most grateful folk on the planet, and tell others of this great Gospel of free and sovereign grace.
Tim, your level of ignorance and immaturity is telling. Grahams deadly accursed gospel saves no one, rather, he led multitudes down the broad road. You act like you are so concerned about the lost and yet you have no desire to expose the truth about false teachers. Utter hypocrisy. At this point, your goal appears to be to follow me all over this forum and pick fights. You are divisive and hold to Arminianism dung. Everything presented about Graham is factual, it exposes him for what he is. Your desire isn't about the lost, it's about making it your duty to discredit anything I say with NO evidence to back yourself. You are a very sad and angry man Timā¹ļø Prove Graham wasn't in bed with Rome .. as the saying goes, put up or shut upš
I have shown you, repeatedly, from God's word, your error concerning whosoever. CV has also called you out, yet you celebrate with an in your face approach by deliberately and defiantly repeating your error. Yet you claim I don't care about people getting saved?! I would advise you to move on and quit purposely looking for ways to unleash your unwarranted tirades on meš
Do YOU know āthe true gospel ā? If so, why donāt you trot it out, instead of spewing bitterness and accusations (and I thought Satan was āthe accuser of the brethrenā) like you have done so far on this thread? You act as if you are more concerned about keeping the wrong people from getting saved than you are in helping the right ones to find the way of life.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: John it is not so much a matter of not pondering in the past as it is taking time to write it out so it will communicate what I am trying to say in a concise manner this forum dictates.
I know what you're saying brother. No worries then, take as much time as you need, and I look forward to reading your conciseness.
Dr. Tim wrote: But John, I thought the reason Jesus hung for so many hours on the cross was so Heād have time to instruct that thief on (drumroll, eerie organ music) The Doctrines Of Sovereign Grace. Do you mean to tell me that man just asked Jesus for salvation and got it? Kinda sounds like Romans 10:13 to me: āFor WHOSOEVER [Yippee! Hot diggety dog! Glory hallelujah!] shall call upon the name of the Lord SHALL be saved.ā
Tim, can I ask you something? Do you believe that sin is an illness in man that makes him innocent and needs healing. If no, check out the following text and keep to the literal interpretation instead of spiritualising it. Then tell me what you think it is saying. Thank you bro.
Isaiah 53:4-5 KJV (4)Ā Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. (5)Ā But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
John UK wrote: Brother US, ponder away as you will, it is no problem. I am very much looking forward to reading your completed essay. I will just say that as you are pondering so long on this, it is surely a sign that you have not given it much thought in the past. Well bro, it is no different to myself, as these things are very recent in mine own thinking. There is far more to communion than most fellow believers realise, and it may be time to get out the creeds and confessions of our particular church and see what our founders thought about it. Clearly, the independent and separatist Baptist pastors of 1689 collectively agreed on a most informative and heartwarming exposition of what the communion was all about. And at last I now see that the communion table must be a closed table, even though that produces logistical difficulties. In those days the Baptists were called Strict and Particular Baptists; they held a strict (closed) table and a particular view of the atonement (that Christ died particularly for those chosen by the Father).
John it is not so much a matter of not pondering in the past as it is t taking ime to write it out so it will communicate what I am trying to say in a concise manner this forum dictates.