Sir, Iā€™m sorry that you canā€™t see that is my heartā€™s desire. Iā€™m afraid that youā€™re indirectly saying that you know my heart.,

ā€œyou actually want a fight. If not, why are you fighting, with all your might?ā€

Sir, 2,000+ years ago, when Jesus was teaching the OT, are you seriously suggesting that He could not prove the OT? And not only Jesus, but the apostles as well?

So by fulfilling the OT He could not prove the OT? Because they didnā€™t have the originals. Sir, your viewpoint means we could never know what any person actually said until modern times where we have original autographs, youā€™re suggesting that we canā€™t do any meaningful historical research on what people like Josephus actually said.

Also, you talk about a ā€œbase modelā€ this is not logical nor biblical because in that framework we cannot examine the KJV in light of the Greek. Thus the Greek is almost, if not, irrelevant.

You seem to think that Iā€™m arguing the same case (in essence but differing in content) but Iā€™m not. And sir, if I may point out, you are arguing like a Mormon missionary. They pray and ask if the Book of Mormon is the word of God, and they believe that it is due to their prayer. So thatā€™s not a consistent argument, and your argument is not valid because someone can ask God if the NASB is the word of God, and they believe that it is, that makes the NASB the word of God.

@Dr. Tim, that's a very pragmatic view, and we've discussed this before doc, you're setting up the KJV as the standard, that's not how it works.

Again guys, I don't mind disagreeing with you guys, you're my brothers in Christ, I've prayed for you both before, that God would continue to use you guys to advance his kingdom.

but then it hopped from endorsing various versions for starting a fire; & Benjamin, I must say that you are not showing respect towards Dr. Tim, even though you disagree with him & for what he says, that doesnā€™t give you the right to mock or ridicule Dr. Tim. We all need to work on being respectful.

Dr. Tim, you & I have discussed the KJV topic many times, and we have our disagreements, and I suppose thatā€™s fine, and I respect you for your evangelistic zeal and for your concern of the authority of scripture and the purity of the scriptures.

But Doc...I am young in the faith, but I caution you on what you call some of the versions, because if indeed the NASB, ESV, NKJV, etc are the words of God, you will give an account to God on why you called His word inferior, a peashooter, and recommending that they be used for doorstops and for starting a fire.

1. God is not sovereign. (Which would be heresy)

2. Repentance is not necessary for salvation. (Which is a different gospel)

3. That Jesus went to Hell.

4. That Godā€™s will is that the government kill homosexuals.

He butchers logic and reason in the below link, and he denies that God sends hurricanes, famines, and plagues because he doesnā€™t believe that God is sovereign, he seemingly doesnā€™t see that God uses anthropomorphic language to communicate a truth,

and it seems as if he has never read the book of Genesis, Exodus, Daniel, Malachi, and pretty much the whole Bible, because it was Godā€™s will to send a famine to Egypt, send 10 plagues to Egypt, to have the Babylonian captivity, etc.

Yet he is a sound teacher?

ā€œPastorā€ Anderson believes that repentance is not part of the gospel even though the Bible teaches that repentance is part of the gospel message. He says repentance is a meritorious work and therefore not the gospel because the gospel is through faith alone;

Yes the gospel is through faith alone, thatā€™s why you forsake the world and flee to Christ, so repentance is not a work it is part of your faith.

He teaches that Jesus went to Hell (very blasphemous), he said in a sermon, ā€œGod destroyed Sodom and Gamorah with fire and brimstone as we wish God would destroy this filthy gay parade in Phoenixā€

That is against the teaching of scripture in respect to wishing that God would kill certain unsaved people. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FP0mZ6C8b8I)

Ephesians 6:18 KJV
[18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

1 Corinthians 13:13 KJV
[13] And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Matthew 5:46-47 KJV
[46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others ? do not even the publicans so?

Mark 12:29-31 KJV
[29] And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is , Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

[30] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Ephesians 6:18 KJV
[18] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

1 Corinthians 13:13 KJV
[13] And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Matthew 5:46-47 KJV
[46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others ? do not even the publicans so?

Mark 12:29-31 KJV
[29] And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is , Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

[30] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

The double standard is amazing, canā€™t we label them as being masculinephobic? Why are they anti-masculine? And as far as being a stoic, that means suppressing emotion, if anyone wants to see a stoic, watch Startrek, Spock is a stoic (well, heā€™s a half breed so at times he shows emotion)

But I think itā€™s fascinating to see how zealous they are for this relic.

The article says, ā€œMost Filipino Catholics consider the Nazarene statue to be miraculous, able to heal terminal cancers and other sicknesses, to grant petitions, and to help those in need.ā€