John UK wrote:
Bro US, thank you for taking the time to share with me the simple fact that you justify the actions found in the article from Nehemiah 4. This is very helpful info and I will bear it in mind.
Regarding Luke 22:36-38, when you read it in context, you will discover that the scripture reveals only two swords were required for the purpose. And the purpose was? Self-defense? As in, future self-defense for the apostles and disciples as they went on their missionary journeys?
Brother, read the passage prayerfully, and you will come to a better way of understanding it. Ask the Lord Jesus to help you, and he will indeed.
I don't need to say anything except to point you to Jesus himself, and get you to ask of him. They are HIS words, and HE knows what he meant by them. So read the words in context, and then ask him what he meant.

Sorry, average reader, but I don't think your comment adds to the discussion. Obviously things are not seen eye to eye but the brethren on both sides are stating their understanding of what the Scriptures teach.

Luke 22:36  Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

John UK wrote:
Well thanks a million brother. You furnish me with a Bible text with no explanation, Nehemiah 4.

John UK wrote:
Well thanks a million brother. You furnish me with a Bible text with no explanation, Nehemiah 4. I try to understand what it is you are trying to say by it, and all you can do is repeat ad infinitum, "No, that's not it!"
Nehemiah 4:17 KJV
(17)  They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon.
Let me just say that whatever the situation, we in the UK are not permitted to do that. So what are you suggesting in posting Nehemiah 4?
Several things are at stake here:
1. The USA Christians can behave differently from Christians in other countries?
2. The Bible can be interpreted differently in different countries?
3. Culture must be taken into account, and there is no such thing as a "Christian way of life"?
4. Church may or may not be separate from state?
5. Dominionism may or may not be viable?
6. Romans 13 may or may not be rejected as God's plan for the new covenant age?

“It has been very hard dealing with this situation as every door of justice seems to be closed simply because we follow a different faith.”]
[Pastor Suryam reported an identical experience with authorities to International Christian Concern, saying that every conventional channel of justice had been closed to him,

NOT THE SAME, our government would send police in as additional protection and would NOT prosecute for the killing in self-defense a crazed gunman on our property . Our church protection plan was as in this article trained by law enforcement as to how to act and we have the full support of local law enforcement on our side for what we implemented.
It is NOT THE SAME as these brethren in India.

APPLES AND ORANGES John

You continue to bring up situations that do NOT apply to this article.

11 Wherein the king granted the Jews which were in every city to gather themselves together, and to stand for their life, to destroy, to slay and to cause to perish, all the power of the people and province that would assault them

Somehow the Jewish people must have got confused because they celebrate this as God's deliverance for them at the feast of Purim, mentioned by the way in the New Testament

Everything that is available now was not 2000 or more years ago so there isn’t a Bible verse that directly speaks to all modern issues

John UK wrote:
Forget the modern equivalents; where is the biblical equivalent where the local synagogue/church trained up its adherents in weaponry to protect themselves from an isolated attack?

Try the following passages